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Re: 86/8 City Girl
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:35 am
by MichaelB
Will Barks wrote:Am I wrong or do I see a slight edge enhancement on the beaver caps? :-k
Nick can give a definitive answer to this, obviously, but here's what the booklet says:
For this 2010 Masters of Cinema Series Blu-ray edition we encoded the HD master in 1080p AVC format on a BD25. Heartened by Fox’s U.S. release of this master without any heavy-handed digital restoration, we decided against HD- DVNR, MTI, other forms of digital restoration, or grain removal, after tests revealed noticeable disruption of the tonal quality belonging to the film image in many scenes. We used the same hands-off approach with our release of Carl Theodor Dreyer’s Vampyr: The Strange Adventure of Allan Gray and F. W. Murnau’s Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans, and we feel it more respectful to the filmmakers and the patina of the image. The level of damage still present is exactly what you would see if you were to project this same 35mm film restoration theatrically.
...though in practice the damage is absolutely minimal bar the occasional very faint tramline: this is one of the best prints of an 80-year-old film that I've seen.
Re: 86/8 City Girl
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:13 am
by tojoed
domino harvey wrote:Damn, I wasn't going to buy the Blu-ray since I already have the Murnau box, but Kalat cannot be denied
I'm in the same boat, but I'm wavering, even though Kalat's are practically the only commentaries I listen to.
Do you think I'll convince myself if I say that with
City Girl I'll have all the extant Murnaus in single editions?
Re: 86/8 City Girl
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:16 am
by peerpee
Will Barks wrote:Am I wrong or do I see a slight edge enhancement on the beaver caps? :-k
We haven't applied any filters (such as Edge Enhancement) to anything we've ever put out. Any amplified acutance that might be visible is inherent in either the print or Fox's HD master.
Re: 86/8 City Girl
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:39 am
by eerik
Thank you, Nick, for this fantastic release. It looks absolutely fabulous on those screenshots. Unfortunately, I cannot order it until the end of March.
Can't wait to see how good M looks. O:)
Re: 86/8 City Girl
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:45 pm
by Will Barks
peerpee wrote:Will Barks wrote:Am I wrong or do I see a slight edge enhancement on the beaver caps? :-k
We haven't applied any filters (such as Edge Enhancement) to anything we've ever put out. Any amplified acutance that might be visible is inherent in either the print or Fox's HD master.
As a keen fan of the Moc series, I know that you wouldn't have unnecessarily altered the image. I just suspect that Fox themselves used a little edge enhacement during restoration to sharpen the image.
Re: 86/8 City Girl
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:11 pm
by Tommaso
tojoed wrote:
Do you think I'll convince myself if I say that with City Girl I'll have all the extant Murnaus in single editions?
Only if you can tell me where I can find single editions (or editions at all) of "Der Gang in die Nacht" and "Der brennende Acker"
Seriously, what would I give for an MoC release of these...
Re: 86/8 City Girl
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:11 pm
by tojoed
Tommaso wrote:tojoed wrote:
Do you think I'll convince myself if I say that with City Girl I'll have all the extant Murnaus in single editions?
Only if you can tell me where I can find single editions (or editions at all) of "Der Gang in die Nacht" and "Der brennende Acker"
Seriously, what would I give for an MoC release of these...
Yeah, me too. I was pushing it a bit, my single editions of "Gang" and "Acker" are, obviously, bootlegs, but they're not bad.
Re: 86/8 City Girl
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:13 pm
by perkizitore
Shouldn't someone delete 86 from the title of he thread since this didn't get a DVD release?
Re: 86/8 City Girl
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:44 am
by Jeff
perkizitore wrote:Shouldn't someone delete 86 from the title of he thread since this didn't get a DVD release?
The 86 has been 86ed, but I wasn't quite sure how to number this now since MOC 8 is
Metropolis. The "b" is both for Blu-ray, and in honor of Criterion laserdiscs which used to designate spines with "b" for CLV/CAV versions. If Nick/Craig/Jon have a preferred nomenclature, I'd be glad to change it.
Thanks to Eureka, I just received this disc in my grubby American hands today, 12 days before the UK street date. Scanned the booklet and watching the disc now. Both are as impressive as I expected. Congrats on another job amazingly well done!
Re: 8b City Girl
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:19 am
by Jeff
david hare wrote:I HATE YOU - you BITCH!!!
\:D/ I assume you saw
this offer, David?
Re: 8b City Girl
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:37 am
by Jeff
david hare wrote:well, sort of. But like a fool I always (except HMV exclusives) go amazon and -- cough-- support Gary's site. I think I need to re strategize. Does the Eureka site remove VAT for colonials? Or homosexuals?
£15.88 via Paypal -> $26.08 USD. No shipping charges or tax or VAT of any kind. I'm neither Australian nor homosexual though, so your mileage may vary!
Re: 86/8 City Girl
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:33 am
by Oedipax
Jeff wrote:Thanks to Eureka, I just received this disc in my grubby American hands today, 12 days before the UK street date.
Well, it's official. My local mail delivery stinks. I'm on the east coast and haven't received mine yet!
Re: 86/8 City Girl
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:58 pm
by TMDaines
Jeff wrote:perkizitore wrote:Shouldn't someone delete 86 from the title of he thread since this didn't get a DVD release?
The 86 has been 86ed, but I wasn't quite sure how to number this now since MOC 8 is
Metropolis. The "b" is both for Blu-ray, and in honor of Criterion laserdiscs which used to designate spines with "b" for CLV/CAV versions. If Nick/Craig/Jon have a preferred nomenclature, I'd be glad to change it.
Thanks to Eureka, I just received this disc in my grubby American hands today, 12 days before the UK street date. Scanned the booklet and watching the disc now. Both are as impressive as I expected. Congrats on another job amazingly well done!
8b is really uneasy on the eyes at a glance. Wouldn't just an asterisk be better? For dual releases like Tokyo Sonata thread titles could be "81 & 3* Tokyo Sonata".
Re: 8b City Girl
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:40 pm
by peerpee
8 CITY GIRL (BD)
might be best
Re: 8b City Girl
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:30 pm
by jbaart
or "BD 8 City Girl"
Re: 8b City Girl
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:32 pm
by skuhn8
peerpee wrote:8 CITY GIRL (BD)
might be best
I don't know, peerpee--the combination of all-caps and parentheses make my molars ache. And then there's that rash--well, let's not even go there. How about something like ou8 City Girl 2?
Re: 8 (BD) City Girl
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:11 pm
by Jeff
jbaart wrote:or "BD 8 City Girl"
I like that, but it looks like a headline from a
Variety story about
Law and Order SVU star B.D. Wong going down on Mary Duncan, which is unlikely for a variety of reasons.
How about
8 (BD) City Girl
I feel like an optometrist. Better here, or better here. One or two?
Re: 8b City Girl
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:36 pm
by tajmahal
peerpee wrote:8 CITY GIRL (BD)
might be best
City Girl 8: Grain is Good
Re: 8 (BD) City Girl
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:47 pm
by swo17
I like dashes. Either BD-8 or 8-BD. I call for a forum vote!
Re: 8 (BD) City Girl
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:52 pm
by domino harvey
There's no Wong answer, but I do prefer Jeff's first instinct of BD 8 City Girl
Re: 8 (BD) City Girl
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:36 pm
by Tommaso
Seconded.
Re: 8 (BD) City Girl
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:00 am
by peerpee
BD 8 City Girl
makes sense.
--
Why everything needs to be on Blu-ray forthwith:

Re: 8 (BD) City Girl
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:02 am
by HerrSchreck
Gasp!
Jesus H Christmas... you could frigging fingerprint, and pull up a yellow sheet on Mary Duncan simply popping in the frigging Blu.
Amazing.
Re: BD 8 City Girl
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:27 am
by Jeff
Watched it twice last night (once with the great Kalat commentary). It is truly a thing of beauty. My favorite purchase in a looooong time.
Re: BD 8 City Girl
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:54 am
by perkizitore
Nick, can you post some more pictures?