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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:15 am
by colinr0380
MichaelB wrote:Did you know that Tarkovsky commented on James Glickenhaus' The Exterminator?
He was visiting London in 1981 for a NFT lecture, and insisted on seeing it, as it was the big British censorship cause célèbre at the time - so you can see why a much-censored Russian filmmaker would have a passing interest in the subject.
He wasn't impressed.
He wasn't impressed.
Neither was I - by far the worst adaptation of William Burroughs I have ever seen!
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:10 pm
by ando
Mr Sausage wrote:ando wrote:Media wolves as well as everyone else will read his film no differently simply because the release date is scheduled around national events. Why would we?
You're doing an awful lot of careless and uncharitable reading in order to bolster what you'd already decided was true beforehand. Spielberg seems to be saying that he doesn't want his film cheaply co-opted by political partisans to help sell whatever policies they're pushing, which is perfectly reasonable considering how often that has already happened with Lincoln. So he pushes the release date back so that no one can mangle the film to help them win an election and so that it isn't overshadowed by electoral rhetoric. Not only is this motive understandable, it functions perfectly well
without your assumption that Spielberg is a political filmmaker who pretends to be a-political. That last bit is an unnecessary explanation.
Apparently not, Mr. Sausage, as I was asked to re-clarify the point. What seems careless, uncharitable and
unnecessary is your contention that posters need comment according to your editorial satisfaction.
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:22 pm
by Mr Sausage
ando wrote:Apparently not, Mr. Sausage, as I was asked to re-clarify the point. What seems careless, uncharitable and unnecessary is your contention that posters need comment according to your editorial satisfaction.
Ah, another person who thinks they can disprove an argument through ad-hominems. I kinda of like this game, it's so easy to defeat. Watch:
Which one of my claims ceases to be true because I only like posters to comment according to my satisfaction? Which one of my claims suddenly becomes true when I stop wanting posters to only comment according to my satisfaction? Doesn't it strike you as odd that the exact same claim becomes right or wrong to you based on some sort of internal belief of mine?
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:02 pm
by Aspect
Oh yes, I'm excited.
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:10 pm
by swo17
But Matt Besser already perfected Lincoln in Bad Teacher!
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:29 am
by stroszeck
What could be more perfect than a photo of a confederate soldier bearing his rifle alongside a hollywood douchebag nursing a frapuccino...
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:34 am
by Gregory
a.k.a. Spielberg holding a cup of coffee?
Not sure why I even look in threads for yet-to-be-released films anymore.
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:09 am
by Jeff
stroszeck wrote:What could be more perfect than a photo of a confederate soldier bearing his rifle alongside a hollywood douchebag nursing a frapuccino...
Oh, I don't know. Perhaps a photo of young boy in a
Union soldier's uniform alongside Steven Spielberg holding coffee? Throw in Daniel Day Lewis dressed as Lincoln and I think you'd have something "more perfect" than the imaginary scenario you described. Even better would be a picture of
Yo Yo Ma laying on the floor of a bathroom with a wombat.
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:38 am
by mfunk9786
Gregory wrote:a.k.a. Spielberg holding a cup of coffee?
Not sure why I even look in threads for yet-to-be-released films anymore.
This. How dare Spielberg hold a nondescript paper coffee cup!
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:45 am
by hearthesilence
And with a polystyrene cover! Like he can't afford a reusable coffee mug!
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:01 am
by stroszeck
Jeff wrote:stroszeck wrote:What could be more perfect than a photo of a confederate soldier bearing his rifle alongside a hollywood douchebag nursing a frapuccino...
Oh, I don't know. Perhaps a photo of young boy in a
Union soldier's uniform alongside Steven Spielberg drinking coffee? Throw in Daniel Day Lewis dressed as Lincoln and I think you'd have something "more perfect" than the imaginary scenario you described. Even better would be a picture of
Yo Yo Ma laying on the floor of a bathroom with a wombat.
I clearly need to purchase a copy of
Idiots Guide to Civil War....but anyways you sir win the "Greatest Photo in the History of Anything" award. Awesome post.
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:44 am
by MyNameCriterionForum
There's gotta be a way to segue from the assassination attempt in Gangs of New York to the assassination in this film, right? Both feature Day-Lewis and both feature Lincoln...
Also Steven, can we get a big speech at the end of this where he wishes he had freed more slaves?
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:46 am
by James Mills
stroszeck wrote:What could be more perfect than a photo of a confederate soldier bearing his rifle alongside a hollywood douchebag nursing a frapuccino...
Post of the year [x]
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:02 am
by knives
MyNameCriterionForum wrote:
Also Steven, can we get a big speech at the end of this where he wishes he had freed more slaves?
Actually that's a possibility since the 14th amendment originally did not end slavery in all of the states, just the confederate states.
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:43 am
by CSM126
Perhaps Lincoln can break down into hysterical fits of tears while trying to peddle his watch to raise money to buy one more slave's freedom, while the audience breaks out in hysterical fits of laughter at the awfulness of the acting.
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:28 pm
by mfunk9786
James Mills wrote:stroszeck wrote:What could be more perfect than a photo of a confederate soldier bearing his rifle alongside a hollywood douchebag nursing a frapuccino...
Post of the year [x]
Have any of you ever had a frappucino? Or do you realize that movies get made in current time, and there are no time machines involved?
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:16 pm
by Matt
mfunk9786 wrote:Or do you realize that movies get made in current time, and there are no time machines involved?
That is such a 1-percenter thing to say. OCCUPY TIME MACHINES! OCCUPY CIVIL WAR MOVIES! OCCUPY COFFEE CUPS!
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:33 pm
by Tom Hagen
Spielberg should have followed DDL's lead on this. Instead of a film, he should have just shot a bunch of Mathew Brady-style albumen print photos of people churning butter and brandishing muzzle loaders.
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:45 pm
by Jeff
James Mills wrote:stroszeck wrote:What could be more perfect than a photo of a confederate soldier bearing his rifle alongside a hollywood douchebag nursing a frapuccino...
Post of the year [x]
I think we've already covered Confederate versus Union uniforms, but there is still confusion, so here is what a douchebag and a Frappuccino look like. I'll leave it to you to determine which is which.
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:32 pm
by Jeff
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:35 pm
by mfunk9786
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:40 pm
by Matt
Shall we just hand him the Oscar right now? Doesn't look like he's wearing any false nose or wig or anything. Let's compare:
[from 2002, Vanity Fair]
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:18 pm
by mfunk9786
Sounds like the battle between Daniel Day Lewis and Joaquin Phoenix will be the biggest Oscar heavyweight fight in decades.
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:22 pm
by oldsheperd
Eh, Mr. Show already nailed this along time ago.
I am curious to see how Spielberg throws in his typical pathos
Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:34 pm
by Highway 61
mfunk9786 wrote:Sounds like the battle between Daniel Day Lewis and Joaquin Phoenix will be the biggest Oscar heavyweight fight in decades.
Don't forget Bill Murray. I'm sure all the hype this year will be about a Lincoln/FDR showdown.
