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Re: 131 / BD 60 Bakumatsu taiyō-den
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:01 am
by AidanKing
If you were to believe the BBC's Hustle, 'grifter' is perfectly acceptable in the UK.
'Conman' is probably the best to use to also get the exact meaning understood in other English-speaking countries. I like 'spiv,' especially because of its pleasing reminders of Private Walker from Dad's Army; 'wide boy' is good if you prefer Only Fools and Horses. 'Charlatan' only really works in a more high-flown manner, e.g. Wodehouse or Moliere in translation.
All great words, though: the English language has so many marvellous terms for describing different types of roguery.
Re: 131 / BD 60 Bakumatsu taiyō-den
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:56 am
by MichaelB
I'd actually raise more of an eyebrow if I encountered "spiv" in the subtitles of a Japanese film, as it's a word that I'd generally only apply to British characters (and British characters of a certain era - probably not exclusively the 1940s, because Arthur Daley arguably deserves the label just as much as Private Walker), and I'd find a Japanese spiv pretty hard to imagine.
In fact, out of all of those, "conman" is the only one that I'd consider substituting for "grifter", and I'm not sure I would - I like "grifter": it has a ring to it that "conman" doesn't really match.
Re: 131 / BD 60 Bakumatsu taiyō-den
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:29 pm
by Paul Moran
Is the "Saheiji" character truly a grifter? Not, in my opinion, according to the
MacMillan (US) definition:
grifter - thesaurus entry
noun informal : someone who tricks people into giving them their money or possessions
American English synonyms or related words for this sense of grifter: People who are considered dishonest or insincere: liar, cheat, hypocrite, fixer, fraud, crook, wheeler-dealer, conman, politician, brown-nose... more
These are synonyms and/or related words for grifter in the American English Thesaurus.
I didn't notice "grifter" in the booklet, and the liner calls "Saheiji" a man-about-town. Amusingly, when I typed this post in Full Editor mode, the forum spellchecker kept trying to change "grifter" to "grafter".
Re: 131 / BD 60 Bakumatsu taiyō-den
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:42 am
by Orlac
David Kalat article -
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Re: 131 / BD 60 Bakumatsu taiyō-den
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:48 pm
by domino harvey
BD and DVD OOP, dual format forthcoming according to Kevin
Re: 131 / BD 60 Bakumatsu taiyō-den
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:33 am
by ryannichols7
can anyone speak to whether the Japanese release of this movie (
this being the one I'm looking at) has English subtitles? of course this is long OOP for MOC and I don't see any other edition coming any time soon, so hoping for some guidance here. unclear info