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Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:43 pm
by The Fanciful Norwegian
Lots of B/Z-grade action movies get released in China because they're often European co-productions and aren't subject to the quota at all. (The quota exists mainly for the Hollywood studios, who insist on revenue-sharing deals instead of the flat-fee buyouts that smaller producers are willing to accept.) The Lundgren film you're thinking of is probably Direct Contact, which was a German co-production. He's also done a couple of Chinese co-productions (Diamond Dogs and the sub-Syfy-level Legendary: Tomb of the Dragon). Non-action imports from Europe or other non-Hollywood sources occasionally get through, but they usually bomb. The five lowest-grossing imports of 2013 were Little Nicolas, Starbuck, Werewolf Boy, The Iron Lady, and On the Trail of the Marsupilami. Part of the issue is that China still doesn't have enough screens to satisfy demand and has no real arthouse circuit, so smaller-scale imports (where they get screened at all) tend to get pulled immediately to make room for more screenings of the latest local hit or Hollywood blockbuster. Action movies with recognizable Hollywood stars (even minor or washed-up ones) are an easier sell, which isn't a uniquely Chinese phenomenon. As for Snowpiercer, it's probably only opening here because it's an English-language film with Chris Evans et al., and of course the main reason it was made that way in the first place is because it's more attractive to overseas buyers than a Song Kang-ho vehicle.

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:52 am
by The Fanciful Norwegian
Caught this last night. It's definitely a film that demands at least a second viewing, and while I intend to give it one, I suspect Bong has bitten off a little more than he can chew here. But I found it perfectly satisfying as a straight-ahead action thriller, though at times it seemed obedient to certain cliches of the genre without putting much of a spin on them (e.g. the unkillable henchman). It's even more fun trying to disentangle its ideas, plus the question of just how cynical it is or isn't. I'm still not sure and I probably never will be, but that's no strike against the film.

One thing I really liked is how it fully embraces the absurdity of the premise and makes a point out of it. Why are the last remnants of humanity obliged to live their lives on a goddamn train when there's no discernible reason they couldn't be housed in heated buildings? Because the bosses say so: the train is the world. TINA—or "So it is," as Swinton puts it. If I were to break the film down to a single big idea—which isn't necessary but can be a useful starting point—it would be that control isn't just about having the guns (though it helps!) but about the power to narrate. The central metaphor has a blunt forwardness, which seems somehow suitable for a movie about people going from one end of a train to the other, but that doesn't mean it isn't inflected or just echoes standard platitudes about class and inequality. Particularly interesting is the notion that personality cults can be about both adulation and contempt, redirecting dissidents' anger from "the engine" (there's those blunt metaphors again) to an expendable leader and encouraging them, on some conscious or subconscious level, to imagine themselves in his place. Tricky, tricky.
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The use of "Midnight, the Stars, and You" felt like a major misstep, since the song is so irretrievably associated with The Shining that using it in any other movie can't help but take you out of it. But upon reflection the association isn't entirely inapt: Curtis has always been the caretaker.

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:34 am
by NilbogSavant
How much Korean is there in the film? Was thinking about checking this out, but I am in Beijing and can't find anywhere that promises English subs for those parts.

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:47 pm
by The Fanciful Norwegian
Most of the Korean dialogue is dispensable (and some of it is interpreted into spoken English via fancy sci-fi technology), but Song Kang-ho has a mini-monologue near the end that isn't translated and is pretty much essential for understanding his subsequent actions, which are critical to the finale. That said, I think enough is visually communicated to broadly intuit what's going on.

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:32 am
by zedz
The acute danger of a Weinkensteined version of this film seems to have passed, but here's a heads up that three different Blus (at least) are now available in Asia (Japanese, Taiwanese, Hong Kong). No Korean disc yet, as far as I can tell.

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:45 am
by Michael Kerpan
Any of these have English subs (for the Korean bits)?

I finally read the comics -- and found the story ridiculously unbelievable -- but will be interested in seeing what Bong has done with the material.

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:07 am
by swo17
Oh, he definitely stayed true to that.

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 6:48 am
by zedz
According to yesasia, the HK disc, at least, has English subs.

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:34 pm
by Finch
FYI, the Hongkong BD which I just finished watching, has (very good) English subs (spotted only two grammar/spelling errors) throughout so everything the Korean characters say which is not translated by the device already is covered by the subs.

There are no extras at all (not even a trailer) so I think the disc should have been prized accordingly. I know it's still quite a bit cheaper than the existing French/Japanese/Taiwanese discs but still....

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:54 pm
by jindianajonz
The annoying thing about the HK disc is that there is no option to subtitle only the Korean sections- you either have subtitles on for everything, no subtitles at all, or you need to toggle them on and off the 10 or so times the Korean character speaks.

That said, as The Fanciful Norwegian says, most of Nam's dialogue is easily construed from the action, but there were two sections that I would have felt lost without subtitles.

The first is when Nam and Yona look out a window in the school car-
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They look at the frozen remains of seven people who revolted years earlier, and Nam explains that one woman is eskimo and that is why she was able to travel a few feet further in the snow than everybody else.
The second segment, which is much more crucial to the plot (not to mention spoilery), comes near the end of the film, after Curtis gives a monologue explaining his history on the train.
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Nam explains that he believes the world is warming up again, as evidenced by a crashed plane he saw on the bridge- years ago he could only see the tail in the snow, but now he saw the full body and wings of the plane. He believes that people can survive outside of the plane, and wants to blow open the door to the outside rather than the door into the Wilford's compartment. He also explains that the Kronile (or whatever the drug is called) is highly explosive, and that he hasn't been collecting it just to get high.

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:58 am
by feihong
It seemed to me as if the details Nam provided were almost quintessential to the plot of the movie--or at least quintessential to getting any enjoyment out of the story. Whatever; you certainly couldn't unpack any of Nam's motivations without his two monologues.


Finally seeing this film, I found it very disappointing. I missed Bong's "Mother," so maybe I am missing a crucial piece in the puzzle, but it seemed as if the very canny, commercial tendencies in Bong's makeup as a filmmaker--the dismal "Hollywood" tropes and aesthetics he has sometimes fallen back upon as a filmmaker, have come full-on to the fore in this production--and no longer with any saving gloss of irony. In the past was possible to read "The Host" as a kind of parody of the Hollywood blockbuster, shot-through with gritty sarcasm and with harsh South Korean contemporary realities lurking in the background of the picture, and fixed on essentially South Korean characters and problems. And "Barking Dogs Never Bite" and "Memories of Murder" were full of so much local South Korean interest and scale that Bong's more Spielbergian leanings never overwhelmed the compelling nature of the material. But "Snow Piercer" seemed to me like full-on Hollywood sci-fi bombast: on the one hand, as handsome a production as one can put together these days, with suspense, broad humor and visceral, explosive action sequences--and on the other hand intellectually trite, quirky without ever seeming personal and resolutely disengaged with matters of character in favor of quick sketches of attitude. There's almost a weird irony in the way Tilda Swinton, who gives the fullest exposition of character in the feature, and John Hurt, who projects the most enticing display of warming sympathy,
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get blown away point-blank in front of us (Swinton gets it right in the middle of her stealing of a scene, no less).
Of course, Hurt seems to be contributing a wheezy extension of the character he projected in the "Hellboy" franchise, although with less of a twinkle in his eye, and Ed Harris really almost gets away with a breezy recapitulation of his Christof from "The Truman Show," before shrugging his shoulders, wiping his hands of it,
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and getting swallowed by the special effects.
Bong used to give to actors generously--"Barking Dogs" and "Memories of Murder" were films that made stars or usefully extended star status of many vivid South Korean players--but this film is without opportunity for such show of humanity. It makes the prospects of this future world more essentially dismal when I reflect that no one in the film seems worthy of inhabiting
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the possibly more ideal world revealed at the end of the picture. Incidentally, that glacial space, with its Coca-Cola-commercial polar bear slipping over the ice, was the most interesting thing that they filmed in the movie, and I wouldn't have minded if they abandoned the comic book long enough to make a go of some snow exploration. But the movie seemed way too locked-in to a kind of Speed/Die Hard aesthetic to surrender to anything too thoughtful or arresting.
The movie that sprung to mind most readily as a comparison, especially near the end of the film, when Ed Harris starts to explain what the picture has been about (something he did to more diverting and cheeky effect in "Walker"), is the Altman picture "Quintet," in which Paul Newman wanders through a vapid future icescape until returning to the obviously sinister Vittorio Gassman for a stultifyingly humorless and philosophically simplistic explanation of the plot we were supposed to have witnessed. Essentially, the "game," which Newman hardly seemed to realize he was playing, "is life;" and in "Snowpiercer," the train is life--it's easy to come to this realization far before the film grinds to a halt, but at the finish it remains surprisingly disappointing how little life has been on display. Have the droogs of the leisure class been partying in the same compartment now for nearly 20 years, without anything like delirium or enui taking hold? Has no one written a novel on this train? As in "Quintet," "Snowpiercer's" abstract plane of action turned out to be insufferingly banal, and in both films all of the filmmaking inventiveness that went into the picture--all the vivid imagery and atmosphere, seemed to bounce off the hull of the prosaic sci-fi setup. "Quintet" was a picture that really pleased no one, and i wonder who "Snowpiercer" is supposed to please? It seems just remote and "foreign" enough to distance American fans of the action blockbuster, but it also seems fairly alienating to the arthouse audience in its refusal to envelope us in compelling atmosphere or to speak to us in intellectually engaging terms. Is the international market for blockbusters where this film was positioned? Can that market really sustain such a lugubrious venture?

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:05 pm
by Michael Kerpan
Volume 2 of Snowpiercer (comic book? graphic movel?) does involve exploration outside the train -- but the train is a totaly different snowpiercer than the one in the first volume.

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:51 pm
by jindianajonz
One thing I'm still trying to wrap my head around in this film is the recurring motif of sacrificing the few to save the many.
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It first crops up in the film when Curtis behaves in a way quite contradictory to a typical Hollywood hero, and lets his friend die so that he can capture Tilda Swinton, and then follows the trope of a small team slowly being whittled down throughout the course of the movie, all for the benefit of the populace left behind. Bong hammers this theme home quite clearly at the end, when Curtis admits that the survivors resorted to eating different parts of their body in order to survive the first couple months on the train, i.e. sacrificing the limb to save the body. But when he finally confronts Wilford, he finds that the two share the same philosophy, and the back car's oppression is just a mechanism to kill a few members of the populace in order to maintain the balance that allows the whole to thrive. Curtis naturally seems to be ok with this premise, until he discovers the child under the floor working the engine, at which point he revolts against the system. The question I can't quite answer is why this has such a strong effect on him- he has seemingly already come to terms with the fact that his people must be eternally disenfranchised if the train is to succeed, and presumably all the sacrifices that this entails. Why would discovering this child change his worldview so dramatically?

One final irony is that by rebelling against this system, Curtis opts to sacrifice some on the train so that humanity as a whole can surive, although this will presumably end the cycle of sacrifice.

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:08 pm
by JMULL222
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I'd argue that the point of the scene - and thus, of the movie - is that it's very easy to be complacent about the fact that capitalism forces young black children to live in unforgivable conditions/poverty, until you have to stare those conditions in the face yourself.

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:07 pm
by mfunk9786
I was completely mixed on Snowpiercer - on one hand there's a ton of visual flair on display here, some really clever set design and underrated CGI work on the budget that Bong Joon-ho had to work with, coupled with a compelling political allegory. On the other, there's a ton of fight scenes that feel unnecessary, and the film would've been better for paring those sequences down - they're highly choreographed, so I'm sure it'd be a shame to lose them, but that's exactly why they feel forced and not quite like they belong in the same film as, say, the tour through the train (that Alison Pill cameo!) with Tilda Swinton, or the gritty moral decisions of the final minutes of the film. My first instinct when assigning this a star rating (as I do with everything I see now on Letterboxd) was to give it 2.5 stars out of 5 - completely in the middle of the road. But then I thought - there's so much here that I've never seen in a film before, so much that's been invented by its good-humored and creative director, that the tie should always go to stuff that's unlike anything I've never seen before when I'm wrestling with a balanced, middle-of-the-road opinion. Tie goes to the movie that's unlike anything I've seen before. (I gave it 3 stars.)

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:35 pm
by Movie-Brat
Finch wrote:FYI, the Hongkong BD which I just finished watching, has (very good) English subs (spotted only two grammar/spelling errors) throughout so everything the Korean characters say which is not translated by the device already is covered by the subs.

There are no extras at all (not even a trailer) so I think the disc should have been prized accordingly. I know it's still quite a bit cheaper than the existing French/Japanese/Taiwanese discs but still....
I'm curious a to what the US discs will be like then. Sorry to say, my theater doesn't have Snowpiercer.

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:03 pm
by warren oates
As the Fanciful Norwegian warned us, the source material is inherently ridiculous, but Bong Joon-ho handles it with consistently more taste and skill than you would imagine he could (or anyone else would, for that matter). I didn't love the film and it's easy to agree with lots of the criticism above. But if you take a step back for a moment and try and imagine this adaptation in the hands of a director like, say, Luc Besson (for whom this peculiarly French graphic novel fantasy almost seems to have been written), then you start to see the ways in which it's better than it deserves to be -- far more compelling and less cartoony.

Somebody above complained about the lack of character development, but I could almost argue the opposite. Within the very narrow range of constraints the director saddled himself with when he signed on -- from the relative shallowness of the source material to the sheer amount of screen time that the action and exposition demand -- the casting is great and the performances are almost uniformly excellent. I found myself feeling for and caring about characters in spite of the silliness of their situation.

If there's anything I love about New Korean Cinema and Bong's work in particular it's his deft command of tone and his ability to switch on a dime between seemingly incompatible moments/feelings. Take that perfectly executed
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slapstick bit with the fish
in the middle of that huge train car battle, for example. Or the even heavier moment near the end where Curtis confesses that he's
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basically a reformed death camp cannibal: "You know what I don't like about myself? I know what babies taste like."
I can't possibly overstate how very much the mere content of what he said at that moment within the context of this whole goofy Snowpiercer world was daring me to laugh or scoff at that line. And yet Bong's perfect control of his material made me feel for this character instead.

Overall, I'd say the film became a much better experience for me when, early on, I pretty much gave up caring about any "whys" and just enjoyed the moment to moment "whats." Here are a few off the top of my head:
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The tunnel melee... The pipe ram... The fire runner... The big curve car to car firefight... The food reveal... The school scene...
Oh, and Feihong really should see Mother. Definitely my favorite of Bong's films so far.

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:13 pm
by Michael Kerpan
This will be coming to the Brattle Theater in Cambridge on Friday -- I suspect it won't be there more than a week. Apparently no other theaters (even the Landmark ones) were willing to pick this up, in light of Weinstein's obvious hostility to the film and the Transformers juggernaut.

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:21 pm
by YnEoS
It's quite ridiculous which was initially pretty offputting, but somehow the whole thing kinds of works has one big experience and I couldn't help but get involved by the end. Not great, but it's something.
warren oates wrote: Or the even heavier moment near the end where Curtis confesses that he's
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basically a reformed death camp cannibal: "You know what I don't like about myself? I know what babies taste like."
I can't possibly overstate how very much the mere content of what he said at that moment within the context of this whole goofy Snowpiercer world was daring me to laugh or scoff at that line. And yet Bong's perfect command of his material made me feel for his character instead.
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My memory isn't always the most reliable but wasn't it that line "I know that babies taste better than adults" or something even more ridiculous like that?

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:46 pm
by Movie-Brat
Michael Kerpan wrote:This will be coming to the Brattle Theater in Cambridge on Friday -- I suspect it won't be there more than a week. Apparently no other theaters (even the Landmark ones) were willing to pick this up, in light of Weinstein's obvious hostility to the film and the Transformers juggernaut.
Weird thing is, AMC's been promoting Snowpiercer and yet the one I go to doesn't have it. Obvious Child and The Rover, yes. Hell, they show Bollywood movies but not Snowpiercer.

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:14 am
by repeat
warren oates wrote:If there's anything I love about New Korean Cinema and Bong's work in particular it's his deft command of tone and his ability to switch on a dime between seemingly incompatible moments/feelings
Totally agree with this - Bong is definitely one of the contemporary masters of tonal modulation, and Snowpiercer for me was a return to Host form in that respect (Mother, while certainly a great film, is my least favourite Bong by a hair's breadth, downplaying that side of him in favour of a more conventional mystery based on plot and performance)...

Snowpiercer for me is Bong at the top of his game, that is a cinema of pure spectacle peppered with his impeccable flair for tonal shifts and jolts, and his peculiar brand of sarcastic (even cynical here) socio-political commentary. Far be it from me to tell anyone else how to watch their films, but I'm afraid the sort of viewer who has been conditioned to consider "plausibility" and "consistency of tone" as high virtues of filmmaking will get much more than a headache from this film!

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:01 pm
by Michael Kerpan
repeat wrote:I'm afraid the sort of viewer who has been conditioned to consider "plausibility" and "consistency of tone" as high virtues of filmmaking will get much more than a headache from this film!
Well, the same could be said about Barking Dogs, I guess. ;-}

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:23 pm
by repeat
Definitely - although obviously that should have read "no more than a headache"! :)

I don't know if it's too optimistic to think that there's still plenty of crossover potential here - it will certainly be interesting to see how this will go down with the summer blockbuster crowds around the world. I wasn't following the scene when The Host came out so I have no idea how that was received, but for me it's been a sort of a benchmark of the genre ever since I saw it and unfortunately not many candidates have compared favourably...

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:15 pm
by Michael Kerpan
Johnnie To and Bong Joon-ho -- genre geniuses. ;~}

Re: Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-ho, 2013)

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:30 pm
by feihong
repeat wrote:
warren oates wrote:If there's anything I love about New Korean Cinema and Bong's work in particular it's his deft command of tone and his ability to switch on a dime between seemingly incompatible moments/feelings
Totally agree with this - Bong is definitely one of the contemporary masters of tonal modulation, and Snowpiercer for me was a return to Host form in that respect (Mother, while certainly a great film, is my least favourite Bong by a hair's breadth, downplaying that side of him in favour of a more conventional mystery based on plot and performance)...

Snowpiercer for me is Bong at the top of his game, that is a cinema of pure spectacle peppered with his impeccable flair for tonal shifts and jolts, and his peculiar brand of sarcastic (even cynical here) socio-political commentary. Far be it from me to tell anyone else how to watch their films, but I'm afraid the sort of viewer who has been conditioned to consider "plausibility" and "consistency of tone" as high virtues of filmmaking will get much more than a headache from this film!
Here's where we begin to really diverge in our thinking about this movie, about Bong's talents, etc. Because I don't think that "cinema of pure spectacle" represents anyone "at the top of [their] game." In the past I've thought of Bong Joon-ho as an absurdist author who carefully grounded his film fantasies in concrete realities he saw around him. Barking Dogs took the idea of people as actors on a civic stage to dark and ridiculous extremes, but at the center of that film was the tension inherent when people live on top of one another, squished into vast, impersonal spaces and expected in all instances to conform to the social schemas posited in front of them. The absurd image of a man asked to conform to every hidden social dictate arrayed in front of him--under such pressure that he is driven to antisocial, dog-murdering mania--is a very believable conceit, in the sense that many of have felt that desperate, homicidal pull when we felt trapped near a neighboring dog that won't shut up.

Memories of Murder is grounded in twin schema––one, that the events the film depicts are inspired by a true story––and two, that the military dictatorship that forms the background of the film exists in recent memory. These two elements allow Bong to flush the film full of slapstick comedy and pungent rural wit and grotesquery. Once again, the fanciful conception of events is given a modifying layer of historical relevance and social observation. The Host ups the ante considerably, aiming straight at the monster movie genre, but again there is an anchor in human interest and relevance which keeps the fantasy of the picture from feeling simply indulgent. This is imagination drawn out in thoughtful ways, and while the movie borrows many tropes of the blockbuster special effects movie idiom, there are many unexpected virtues of the movie that feel necessary rather than indulgent. The lugubrious but basically credible family at the center of the film is the obverse of the lone man of action that usually abides at the center of these big-budget productions, and the behavior of the family members is coarse and often disturbingly pragmatic, and always hilarious. The central thematic material of The Host––that South Korea may find need to protect itself even from its allies--is an unusual subject for an action film, and the sympathy that the absolutely inhuman monster provokes as it fights for its own survival is a very unexpected aspect of the film, not rigidly in-keeping with genre traditions.

Those pictures drew their subject matter from concrete, local situations––thus the genre tropes Bong played with and against had a kind of a built-in foil, which kept the films feeling fresh and lucid. Certainly, there is social commentary on display in Snowpiercer, and absurdist humor. What differentiates Snowpiercer for me from Bong's earlier films is the lack of that grounding resource, which measures the fanciful absurdity of his premise against my need to find something human and specific to relate to in a movie. Without that grounding element, the theoretical argument about the breadth and limits of socio-economic organization remains frustratingly abstract. The train is essentially an absurd premise––but it is too absurd to be believed, and to sketchily illustrated to sustain its own conceit. I asked before if anyone had written a novel in the almost 20 years they had been on that train, and I wondered whether or not the leisure class had been partying in absurd costumes the entire time because no element of the train is so clearly drawn in the film as to imply that real life had transpired upon the train. This seemed to me a fault of the comic in smaller portion, as well, but the idea that this train has sustained all human endeavor for almost 20 years is hard to credit without a more thorough sense of detail on display.

There is plenty of detail saved for the more outrageous physical pain of the train. The man whose arm is frozen off, the grotesquery with the fish and the axes, the intense physical challenge of the revolution to survive as the train enters a tunnel and the light gives way to darkness, Swinton and the teacher's exuberantly twitchy facial contortions––all of these things inspire Bong's rapt attention (there is, though, the entirely ridiculous gun duel as the train rounds a bend--and that one rang remarkably pointless in its glib falsity, rather than cheeky and cool--Hard Boiled this is not). And Bong has always combined a sense of gleeful grotesquery in his films with a kind of edgily theatrical mis-en-scene. But Snowpiercer rounds the bend when it places its essential subject matter into the space of about 5 or 6 extended monologues, delivered by different cast members at points where action seems to be a more valuable response to the situation. There is even the sequence near the climax where we get three increasingly prosaic and protracted monologues in rapid succession--where first Curtis, then Nam and then Wilford outline the range of philosophical options open to Curtis at this climactic juncture. These monologues get especially wearisome because they include absolutely all of the background detail of character and history that has transpired on the train. They retrospectively fill in Curtis and Gilliam's motivations; they reveal Nam to be a kind of undercover scourge to his class; and to my mind they show Wilford as a genuinely demented character. I'm not so sure we weren't meant to understand Wilford's motivations as noble, even as we see his compromises (child labor!) as reprehensible. I found I couldn't interpret him as anything more than unhinged. The train is Wilford's idea, after all, and his fascist view of humanity is on display in the succession of cars we visit.

A huge problem for me is that we get all this information in these arbitrary, compact pellets––the monologues are Brechtian in their didacticism, but they have very little of the irony Bong has exhibited in previous films. That irony was based on his intelligent observation of real human conditions, and the multiple levels upon which people may see shared situations in life (Song Kang-ho's outrage when he discovers the scientists who attempted to lobotomize him are blithely holding a cookout next door to the surgery station, for example). And that irony had an ameliorating effect on the strongly didactic dramatic delivery of Bong's earlier films. The irony in Snowpiercer displaces none of the absurdity of the premise, because it remains loose in the insistently abstract background of the film.

That is the huge hurdle I am unable to surmount in my attempt to appreciate the film: it is the background detail that is absurd in Snowpiercer, and nothing in the foreground of the film serves to anchor the movie to any sense of the real. The train doesn't function simply as a metaphor; it's also a machine, and the workings of that machine are important to the central themes of the story--but those workings are never elucidated. It's like watching Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, with no idea what chocolate tastes like and no concept of the process you might go through to make it. There is nothing to relate to in Snowpiercer, because the premise of the movie is absurd from the ground up. Everything follows behind that: the performances fall into line based on whether the actors need to A) advance the story, or B) provide pathos, or C) chew scenery. People's motivations for action are barely examined, not only because their motivations are deliberately held back for third-act revelations, but also because their motivations are detachable, and tacked-on for glaringly obvious thematic purposes. Therefore, the acting is either easy to dismiss, as with Chris Evans, accomplished yet annoying, as with Tilda Swinton and Song Kang-ho, or decent but almost undistinguishable, as with Jamie Bell and Octavia Spencer. There are a few performances that seem not only bad but also ill-conceived--as with Vlad Ivanov, whose acting sticks out of the picture like a sore thumb. And while the technical and production design of the train was certainly an area of a lot of creative focus, it is not at all rigorously purposeful. The decoration of the train looks very much like it comes from a videogame to me--though more Gears of War than Bioshock. The production design of Blade Runner still dwarfs that of Snowpiercer because the production design in Blade Runner provides a vivid, concrete answer to the question of how the people in Blade Runner live--there is purpose in its background detail, and by comparison, the background of Snowpiercer is modish and insubstantial. The action of the movie is similarly hollow--it is entirely arranged around keeping the poor people from advancing along the passage of the train (here I was reminded of another video game--Kareteka--though I suppose contemporary gamers will better recognize a name like Prince of Persia in this genre of side-scrolling, endless advance upon combat). The physical dangers that stand to stop that advance--shock troops, fish guts, tunnels, ice chunks on the tracks--hold relatively little weight of moral or psychological challenge, a la the impediments to the heroes progress in The Lady Vanishes and Shanghai Express (even a somewhat charming clunker like Horror Express offered greater obstacles for people intent upon reaching the conductor's car). Instead they are endurance tests, designed primarily to wind down the fortitude of the heroes, and so the film takes on the narrative shape of the advancing train, to detrimental effect. Neither of those earlier films I mentioned, Lady or Shanghai Express, surrenders to the interminable boredom of a long train ride, but long before Snowpiercer is over, the range of available movement and action in the film has been restricted to a mind-numbingly inevitable confrontation with Wilford. Initially, I wondered at the possibility that Wilford might not be already dead, and that the train would be kept running on the collective greed of the gluttonous one-percenters at the head of the vessel--but by the end it was clear that Curtis would have to meet Wilford. That he turned out to be a cross between the lightly-worn gravity of Ed Harris and the disquiet of a Dickensian factory-owner was less of a rewarding denouement than one that pitted Curtis against Nam, for instance.

I also have to say that I substantially disagree with the claim that Bong Joon-ho is a master of some sort of sliding tonal structure within his films. Tonal variation in a drama is a basic way to contrast scenes, and many filmmakers reflect that skill in more subtle and illuminating ways than Bong does--I'm thinking of contemporaries of Bong, like Jong-Chan Yoon and Song Il-gon, for instance, and outside of South Korea there are many masters of subtle tonal contrast, like the late Edward Yang, or Fassbinder. warren oates' avatar reminds me that Sam Peckinpah was a real master of tonal contrast in many of his films, and that that tonal contrast came from the sympathy of the performances, from Peckinpah's eye for composition...and only considerably less so from the cutting and pacing of his pictures. The fact that the tonal color of scenes in Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid are consistent no matter which cut of the film you watch suggest that this is something you create when you film, much more than something you do afterwards. To my eyes, Bong handles tone the way Steven Spielberg handles it--they both possess a sophisticated sense of pace and rhythm within a scene, but they each display an attitude towards tonal construction that is quintessentially Hollywood in its origin, so that tone becomes for them a question of cutting and rhythm, rather than an attitude expressed through imagery and choreography. Bong's interest in absurdity seems to me quite separate from his sense of the tone of a scene--sometimes his sense of tone and his sense of humor intersect, but the relationship is an inconsistent one at best.

Bong always demonstrated a kind of slick sense of scene construction that was a bit at odds with most of his South Korean contemporaries. In the previous films this was easy to overlook, because his observations of his own society were trenchant and surprising. His humor and his original ways of thinking took him past any of the filmmaking cliches he leaned upon in order to build his narrative ideas or construct his scenes. Snowpiercer is dispiriting for me principally because the anchor is gone, and Bong's skills on this film seem wholly aimed towards a Hollywood model of "international action cinema." The philosophy of the movie feels so abstract as to be detachable from the picture. The acting seems to me the slave of an awkward, stunted narrative, which places action scene and "big ideas" and character development in arbitrary chunks, void of form or feeling. And because the background detail of the film--not just the actual set decoration, but the internal logic of the story--always seems a contrivance of the moment, rather than a carefully considered idea--not much of the flash and bluster of this film seems purposeful or profound. I suppose this has potentially the same audience as a film like The Avengers does in a lot of places. But it's disappointing to me to see a very talented and intelligent filmmaker fall back almost exclusively on his most commercial instincts. And I feel the need to add that, of all the exquisite French comic books out there upon which to base a movie, this has seemed to me--in the first volume, at least--to be one of the least impressive prospects. I wonder why this one was the one Bong chose.