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Ribs wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:06 pm People like the movie actually and are happy to buy it in a new format that will render it better. I don’t really see the point in being angry about it, this current format is what the movie is now. Don’t buy it?

Amazing Goose wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:31 pm I don't see the original (and presumably now OOP) ITMFL doing the same thing

Amazing Goose wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:31 pm Strange how Chungking Express continued to sell for over $100 after the WKW box was announced and released because it had the original color timing (though those prices seem to have cooled), yet I don't see the original (and presumably now OOP) ITMFL doing the same thing.
I suppose because both versions have been available for a while, so people can choose which one they want. (And, going by the Reddit thread, most don't mind the new look.)

swo17 wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:36 pm

Amazing Goose wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:31 pm I don't see the original (and presumably now OOP) ITMFL doing the same thing

It has never gone OOP

Amazing Goose wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:01 pm

swo17 wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:36 pm

Amazing Goose wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:31 pm I don't see the original (and presumably now OOP) ITMFL doing the same thing

It has never gone OOP

What I meant is that the original version/release with the red tint is likely no longer available from Criterion now that this new WKW-restoration version has the spine number.

When the WKW box was announced, I picked up a couple extra copies of ITMFL at a sale price, thinking they might increase in value a la Chungking Express. When they stayed in print for a few years, I decided to sell them this summer.
I've learned not to speculate on Criterion discs.

Finch wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:13 pm Another one here who loves the film dearly but won't be buying this UHD due to the revisionist colors. I don't mind this being SDR only but the new colors is still a deal breaker.

Calvin wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:34 pm Has anybody seen the German UHD to compare it to the existing Criterion? I know that Nova initially announced this for UHD before making a U-turn as they thought the upgrade was too minimal to justify the expense and they're not exactly a label known for being PQ perfectionists.

Dansu Dansu Dansu wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:23 pm I find it more depressing when Criterion releases a subpar edition of a film you love than when they put it in forever limbo (such as all Golden Age Japanese films, apparently) because, that’s it! That’s the one you’re getting. No hope for anything better. So personally, I consider “don’t buy it” to be an inadequate response.

Criterion could have waited until a solution to WKW’s revisionism materialized (such as using the widespread criticism to express reluctance about producing additional releases, putting pressure on WKW to allow both versions), or maybe, with a thousand possible upgrades awaiting release, waited more than a year from the box set’s original launch before releasing it. Considering they knew they were going 4K by the time they released it, the Blu-ray set now appears like a cynical calculation.

therewillbeblus wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:23 pm What's the relationship between people who like Everything Everywhere All at Once and those who accept WKW's revisionism on In the Mood for Love? I get that there's a reference to this film in that film, but what else am I missing?

therewillbeblus wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:34 pm Is it really a consistent conversation being talked about on social media, where people who like the Daniels film are advocating hard for this revisionism to the point of it becoming a 'thing'? That would be so weird, but it's the only thing that really constitutes calling the revisionists "the Everything Everywhere crowd" -almost everyone I know who likes that film and is in the know about the WKW restoration controversy did not make that connection and is against the revisionism. So it feels a bit misguided or harsh to categorize those who are in favor of/complicit in ruining this movie synonymous with the fans of a recent fun popular movie with about two minutes of footage set in that color palette/reference! I don't want to get lumped in there!

Computer Raheem wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:04 pmthe only resemblance to it I found was during the back alley scenes, and that looked (at least to me) motivated by the neon lights in the scene than any reference to WkW's revisionism.

tenia wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:08 pm This is non-sense.
Everything Everywhere was first shown on March 11, 2022.
The ITMFL's 4k restoration was already touring in October 2017.
The WKW Criterion was released in March 2021, and the discussion (including from those who praised it) started there.

Computer Raheem wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:04 pmthe only resemblance to it I found was during the back alley scenes, and that looked (at least to me) motivated by the neon lights in the scene than any reference to WkW's revisionism.

It's an hommage/spoof, not a restoration, and it's to WKW's style overall, not ITMFL specifically (though obviously, its themes are the closest). It'd be also very tough, as shown by the timeline, to explain how people were convinced in 2021 by a movie released in 2022.