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domino harvey wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 6:42 pm I think Paramount may have rushed this new fixed trailer

Personally I like this lo-fi stab at a live action/CGI hybrid.

Who knows how hands or not on Sega were at any stage of filming and early post production, and whether they had sent Paramount notes on the design and if any such notes were perhaps ignored by the studio.

If there going for a creep design they might as well go the whole hog...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeRCtv6YX6k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4LGDRjh9B4

I prefer the other trailer for Carrey's wackiness, but like the new design.

Sonic does look much easier on the eyes now, though in a post-Cats trailer world everything does!

This really missed out on a chance at becoming some cult sensation, and is now just a rigidly designed piece of Sonic the Hedgehog memorabilia. From that perspective, perhaps the studio will regret the decision to shelve it and redesign the hilariously strange looking lead character. I'm certainly less interested now than I would have been (which is minimal anyway, I'll admit)

I think the redesign made people actually want to go and see it... On gaming sites all the comments are positive, saying ‘looks much better now!’, ignoring that the movie itself looks like a barn fire.

If all they did was redesign the character I still have the same hopes for it as before, especially if Carrey brings it. Yes it looks extremely goofy but I can tell that it kind of embraces all the things the character was in the games.

RIP Film wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:59 pm I think the redesign made people actually want to go and see it... On gaming sites all the comments are positive, saying ‘looks much better now!’, ignoring that the movie itself looks like a barn fire.

I think people like to feel listened to. I wonder how much of Alita’s box office success was a similar “Well, they listened to me, so I’ll go to say thanks” impetus?

I understand what you're all saying, but I would like to know who considers themselves a "Sonic the Hedgehog fan" who would've skipped a major feature film starring the character regardless of how the character was designed. I think that's a flat line, so it's everybody else you have to worry about selling tickets to

Look around online— many, many people apparently are identifying as fans who would’ve skipped the first version. I obviously can’t vouch for any of them, but I think you’d be surprised

domino harvey wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:37 pm Look around online— many, many people apparently are identifying as fans who would’ve skipped the first version. I obviously can’t vouch for any of them, but I think you’d be surprised

mfunk is now making me wonder what Chris-chan is making of this. Does the new film affect their extended universe in any way?

Somehow I'm not surprised that absolutely cursed Sonic fan art came into this discussion. So thanks for that mfunk.

Finch wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:13 am Sonic re-design cost less than $5m says source close to the film

The reactions I've seen online have been universally positive which I think bodes well for the film itself.

Big Ben wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:18 amThe reactions I've seen online have been universally positive which I think bodes well for the film itself.

In France, the movie is getting massively panned by the critics and even the public yields a mediocre feedback (I mean, it's OK if you just look at the average, but then, you have to remove all the 5 stars reviews most likely created by phantom accounts).

Finch wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:13 am Sonic re-design cost less than $5m says source close to the film

Which seems in line with what was written here back in May 2019 about the actual required amount of re-work.

I'm amazed at it getting quite so big an opening especially after a film like Detective Pikachu seemed to nail this exact demographic even better last year without having to quickly re-design the character to look cute! Sonic cannot be as big a draw as Pokemon surely?

I regret to inform you that there is a fanbase fixated on the characters for non-PG reasons. This, not Cats, is the furry event movie

It probably has a bit to do with that awkwardly unacknowledged interspecies romance in Sonic 2006, which is the unfortunate highly meme-able result of what happens when your hero is a sassy hedgehog and the damsel in distress a human princess! But then Hollywood has fallen into the same issue of awkward interspecies relationships a lot with all of their cute animated characters meeting cute with live action actors, from Alvin and the Chipmunks to Russell Brand-voiced bunny in Hop! Or Ted in Ted (which is really just Brian in Family Guy for the big screen and with a Boston accent). I guess that a lot of this subgenre is taking its inspiration from the fantastic Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, which of course extremely foregrounded its rabbit in love with an (albeit animated) woman interspecies relationship, even to the extent of not needing to comment on it as anything strange, even logistically impractical!

If you want the ultimate nightmare fuel, there is that astonishingly weird Sonic Dreams Collection (NSFW) unauthorised fan game, which definitely feels like a troubling insight into somebody's fantasies!