234 The Tin Drum

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Minkin
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Re: 234 The Tin Drum

#51 Post by Minkin »

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Looks like the new Volker Schlondorff interview is 68 minutes long!
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#52 Post by Drucker »

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Noticeably different than the Arrow Release.
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Re: 234 The Tin Drum

#53 Post by TMDaines »

I would still rather have the Arrow. The decision to drop the original film is a little shortsighted. It's not like the original film was an incomplete, censored print and everyone was someday hoping that the full print could be used. The new cut, after all, was only made because Schloendorff was informed the footage was there to be used if he so wished.
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Re: 234 The Tin Drum

#54 Post by cdnchris »

Looking at grabs the differences in terms of brightness are noticeable but on television and in motion the two look very similar. The Criterion of course still comes off a little bit brighter and presents a few more details in darker scenes in comparison but otherwise I'd say the transfers are very, very close. So if you want the original cut I don't think you can go wrong with the Arrow.

Also, after going through the supplements here it becomes clear Schlondorff is the one that wanted the original cut to stay off of the disc.
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#55 Post by zedz »

I checked out the new extras on the rerelease, and they're solid. The very long Schlondorff interview is pretty exhaustive, and pretty much renders a commentary redundant. I actually quite like the fact that the two releases are complementary (different versions of the film, different sets of extras) and I can justify holding onto the old DVD.

Schlondorff also clarifies the situation regarding the new cut. His original director's cut was much longer and had to be cut down, in haste, at the insistence of some of the producers. He always intended to restore it to its full length for European release, but after it won at Cannes the producers didn't want to 'mess with success' and wouldn't allow it. When he found that the original materials were about to be dumped (because the lab was going out of business) he decided to reconstitute his original cut. The soundtrack was missing, however, so that needed to be rerecorded.
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Re: 234 The Tin Drum

#56 Post by ando »

zedz wrote:The very long Schlondorff interview is pretty exhaustive, and pretty much renders a commentary redundant.
Indeed. It's one of the best interviews of a director I've ever watched and makes a purchase of the newer edition essential for me. The film, itself, made an indelible impression on me as a child - more of one than I realized. When segments of the restored material were featured during the course of the director interview it felt a bit like I'd been betrayed - like my memory had somehow been violated; that someone was seriously messing with my head: Wait, what the hell is Oskar doing in THAT room? or with that girl? It's rather like seeing your mom at 27 in a green sequin dress flirting with some dude who isn't your father at a party. The dress isn't red and she doesn't appear to be turning tricks but WTF?!! I guess The Tin Drum is my personal Wizard of Oz film. The restored footage will probably just deepen my appreciation (and, hopefully, love of the film) but like Oskar, with regard to old movie favorites, anyway, I like prolonging my state of ignorant bliss.
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#57 Post by djproject »

Good time as any to revisit the film if one hasn't for a while.

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