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exte wrote:Why did it take until 2008 for a major box office star to throw his weight behind Werner Herzog? I don't get the delay...

What about Christian Bale for Rescue Dawn?

Antoine Doinel wrote:

exte wrote:Why did it take until 2008 for a major box office star to throw his weight behind Werner Herzog? I don't get the delay...

What about Christian Bale for Rescue Dawn?

Or indeed Mick Jagger for the original version of Fitzcarraldo?

(Granted, not a major box office film star, but still)

I like Christian Bale (and he should've been used in War of the Worlds instead of Cruise - why hasn't Spielberg worked with him as an adult yet?) but he's only been big with Batman. Whereas Cage has been big since Face Off/1997...

I imagine it never crossed Steven's mind to cast Christian in WOTW because around that same time Batman Begins was probably already in production. For my money, he would have been much better cast as the lead in Munich, although Eric Bana did a fine job anyway.

Eva Mendes has joined the cast.

Cage AND Mendes? My god, Herzog had better do something pretty amazing to pull this off with such a (thus far) terrible cast. If it were anyone else other than Herzog I would have a lot less faith and interest in this whole thing.

Perhaps if this goes well for all of the major players involved, Herzog might be offered the reigns to Ghost Rider 2: The Wraith of God.

Jeffrey Wells published a note that Herzog sent him. Herzog explains that the film is not a remake, gives the full title, and relates a story about recently being handcuffed to a chair in Bangkok.

Jeff wrote:Jeffrey Wells published a note that Herzog sent him. Herzog explains that the film is not a remake, gives the full title, and relates a story about recently being handcuffed to a chair in Bangkok.

This is so funny considering who Herzog is. These type of stories are what makes him such a great interview and conversation piece. I think it is fair to say he has really strange luck.

Somehow Eva Mendes' involvement in the project worries me a lot more then Cage's. Still thrilled he's got so many new narrative films in the works, though.

geoffcowgill wrote:Perhaps if this goes well for all of the major players involved, Herzog might be offered the reigns to Ghost Rider 2: The Wraith of God.

I just want to live long enough to see Aguirre II: The Wrath of Dog

Val Kilmer & Xzibit join cast

Val Kilmer and rapper Xzibit have joined the all-star remake of cult movie Bad Lieutenant.

The film stars Nicolas Cage and Kilmer as tough cops, with Xzibit playing a crime kingpin.

Eva Mendes will also feature in the film, a remake of Abel Ferrara's 1992 movie, which starred Harvey Keitel as a corrupt cop who finds redemption through the Catholic church.

I can't wait to see the footage of Herzog directing Xzibit.

and Val Kilmer has the reputation of being a difficult actor to work with... but Herzog has worked with THE most difficult of actors, so it should really be no problem at all.

So the DVD release will have unedited footage of Herzog pulling a gun to a naked, fat, Val Kilmer on set?

Kilmer is the man.

But Herzog has finally lost it by using Xzibit.

I have heard enough of his fucking laugh in Pimp My Ride to haunt me for a lifetime.

I would love to hear the Herzog ethos on bling, bling.

here its not bling bling, its bling bang.

exte wrote:I would love to hear the Herzog ethos on bling, bling.

"The burnished gold of bit's teeth seemed to twinkle like the sun as he grinned at me through the camera. Yet the weight of his jewellery seemed to express the enormous burden of the effect portraying the gangsta code was having on his soul. As I weathered another of zib's tirades about how my rear would be capped I felt the loneliness that a climber of mountains must feel when he must decide whether to push on with his impossible task or turn back and save his life."

colinr0380 wrote:"The burnished gold of bit's teeth seemed to twinkle like the sun as he grinned at me through the camera. Yet the weight of his jewellery seemed to express the enormous burden of the effect portraying the gangsta code was having on his soul. As I weathered another of zib's tirades about how my rear would be capped I felt the loneliness that a climber of mountains must feel when he must decide whether to push on with his impossible task or turn back and save his life"

A mere "LOL" doesn't even come close to doing justice to this =D>

colinr0380 wrote:"The burnished gold of bit's teeth seemed to twinkle like the sun as he grinned at me through the camera ... "

I can just hear Herzog saying these exact words.

New Film: "Burden of Bling"

miless wrote:I'd take Herzog over Ferrara anyday (even if Nic Cage is involved).

Nothing personal here - just quoting on your quote:
(As being german), i would take Ferrera over Herzog anyday (even if Madonna is involved).

I am just putting my country of birth in here because the american admiration of Herzog is for me one of the great mysteries of cinephilia!
(sorry for this rather silly statement - but i was always wondering where this admiration is coming from? For me, Herzog has told all his stories till beginning of the 80s and after that ... puhhh ... )

accatone wrote:

miless wrote:I'd take Herzog over Ferrara anyday (even if Nic Cage is involved).

Nothing personal here - just quoting on your quote:
(As being german), i would take Ferrera over Herzog anyday (even if Madonna is involved).

I am just putting my country of birth in here because the american admiration of Herzog is for me one of the great mysteries of cinephilia!
(sorry for this rather silly statement - but i was always wondering where this admiration is coming from? For me, Herzog has told all his stories till beginning of the 80s and after that ... puhhh ... )

I haven't actually seen much 'recent' Herzog, but as for non-Germans admiring him, I suppose so much of Herzog is about looking into 'other worlds' and giving us images and insights that go beyond our own basic experiences (at least the superficial ones) that another language and culture just adds to that wonderful sense of 'other worldlyness' throughout Herzog's cinema. Actually, I'm a little surprised that Herzog himself has never taken the Gibson route and done a film in a language foreign even to himself.

Darth Lavender wrote:... is about looking into 'other worlds' and giving us images and insights that go beyond our own basic experiences (at least the superficial ones)...

Yes, but thats a superficial description as well so i was always wondering how and why people (americans in particular) fell in such deep love where they have plenty of 'other worlds'. You brought up the term 'superficial' - something i was avoiding to not piss off some people around here - but yes, i agree 100%, the whole fairy tale and blowhard Kinski thing is really a mystery to me! However, to each his own ... but strange anyway. Thanks for the honest response to my ignorant post Darth!

ps: and the Gibson route wouldn't surprise me as well ... but well ...

Prophets are not without honor -- except in their own lands. Or so the saying goes.