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Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:58 am
by justeleblanc
A few ideas....

The Devils
Crash
Blow-Up
Dreams
Damage
The Merry Widow
Before Sunrise, Before Sunset
Ambersons
The Green Room
Brewster McCloud
Barfly

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:30 am
by beamish13
If Criterion's going to spring for "Devils", they should snatch up "Lisztomania", as well.

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:14 am
by justeleblanc
beamish13 wrote:If Criterion's going to spring for "Devils", they should snatch up "Lisztomania", as well.
If all of Russell's 70s biopics or 70's composers biopics were with one studio, I could see an Eclipse set involving Lisztomania. However, while Lisztomania and Savage Messiah are with Warner, Valentino and The Music Lovers are with MGM (I think), and Mahler is oddly enough with Janus. And I don't see Criterion releasing these films individually, except for maybe The Devils.

It's times like these that I miss HVE, for surely films like Mahler would finally see a DVD release.

Randomly curious, but did Warner ever say that The Boy Friend was going to be in a musicals box set?

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:26 am
by knives
Just for clarifications sake, they're sitting on Mahler for an eclipse set yet give Fan Fan a release?

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:05 am
by justeleblanc
knives wrote:Just for clarifications sake, they're sitting on Mahler for an eclipse set yet give Fan Fan a release?
Fan Fan was Rialto's doing.

And no, I don't see a Russell Eclipse set since his themes biopics are spread out among different distributors. Mahler may never see the light of day on DVD.

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:31 am
by Arthur Bannister
Matt wrote:The LD extras were fantastic, among the best of the laserdisc era, but I think Ambersons is one title you can definitely count on Warner keeping for themselves.
Thanks for the lowdown on the LD extras, Matt. Here's hoping they'll be utilized however it turns out.

I fear you may be right about Criterion's chances for this title, though. Beatrice's legal assault could well be a factor. If Ambersons must be Warner's I do wish they'd get on with it, then.

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:52 am
by kaujot
Aaaand, let's not forget the sorely needed update to Lone Star!

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:58 am
by austinfilm
The Facts on Warner/ CC releases (as I've been told by the filmmakers):

Linklater's Suburbia is in the process of the Criterion treatment. He also told me that when he met with them to discuss what he would like done for that they asked if he could contribute to their versions of Badlands and Zabriskie Point. Linklater is a good friend of fellow Austin resident Malick (there are collectible Malick posters littering his office).

I can also tell you that Linklater informed me that Steven Soderbergh has recorded a commentary track for Zabriskie Point. a friend interviewed Soderbergh for an article on Che and the filmmaker confirmed this with him.

As for the Before Sunrise/ Before Sunset is also on the way. I am not sure who is releasing it. I saw proofs by designer Marc English (Austin based graphic artist who did the DVD art for both Dazed and Confused and Slacker). Based on the proofs (though no criterion logo on the set), it would seem that they are also being released by Criterion. I asked if any of his other films would get the CC treatment and he said the after BS/BS and Suburbia, Newton Boys and Tape would be a possibility but that release is still a ways down the road.

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:17 am
by kaujot
Warner's just recently announced that they were putting out Zabriskie Point, though since it's completely barebones, perhaps it's like the limitless editions of Dazed and Confused from Universal.

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:50 am
by Jeff
austinfilm wrote:Criterion treatment..of Badlands and Zabriskie Point

Steven Soderbergh has recorded a commentary track for Zabriskie Point

Before Sunrise/ Before Sunset is also on the way.

Tape would be a possibility
Oh, I really hope you're not just fucking with us. This is all such glorious news!

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:53 am
by kaujot
Jeff wrote:
austinfilm wrote:Criterion treatment..of Badlands and Zabriskie Point

Steven Soderbergh has recorded a commentary track for Zabriskie Point

Before Sunrise/ Before Sunset is also on the way.

Tape would be a possibility
Oh, I really hope you're not just fucking with us. This is all such glorious news!
I see you left off Newton Boys. ;)

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:07 am
by ianungstad
When I emailed Linklater's production company they said that there were no plans for before sunrise/before sunset but plans for SubUrbia. Strange. Are you sure about those two?

I bet Criterion is pissed that we even know all this.

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:16 am
by austinfilm
i am fairly certain based on the art i have seen, though like i said it could just be an se of bs/bs not a criterion. suburbia, badlands and zp are for sure, basically done and awaiting release

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:18 am
by jaredsap
austinfilm wrote:As for the Before Sunrise/ Before Sunset is also on the way. I am not sure who is releasing it. I saw proofs by designer Marc English (Austin based graphic artist who did the DVD art for both Dazed and Confused and Slacker). Based on the proofs (though no criterion logo on the set), it would seem that they are also being released by Criterion. I asked if any of his other films would get the CC treatment and he said the after BS/BS and Suburbia, Newton Boys and Tape would be a possibility but that release is still a ways down the road.
At the start of this paragraph, you say you're not sure if BEFORE SUNRISE / BEFORE SUNSET are coming form Criterion. But at the end of the paragraph, you essentially say Linklater personally told you they're coming from Criterion. Uh...

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:32 am
by MTRodaba2468
dx23 wrote:New Line titles I could see Criterion releasing:

Sid & Nancy (although I don't know if MGM got the rights to it, but their releases are OOP)
Damage
American History X (the long running .com joke)
Bamboozled
Mar Adentro
The New World
Birth
Punch Drunk Love
John Waters films
Little Children
The King of Kong
Sid & Nancy is MGM (they put out a rather piss-poor SE of it last year), American History X is getting a Blu-Ray release courtesy of Warner Bros. (with more bonuses than what was on the DVD) and Punch Drunk Love is distributed by Sony.

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:44 am
by austinfilm
probably shouldn't have bothered posting, just telling you that i know. i am trying to put information out there as i thought people would want to know. nitpick away, are you gonna correct grammar too?

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:49 am
by ianungstad
Nobody is nitpicking. We are just confused. Did Linklater tell you that Before Sunrise and Before Sunset were coming out on Criterion, or did you make the assumption because the artwork you saw looked criterion-esque. I'm sure we are all grateful to you for sharing your information...we just need a little clarification to understand it.

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:59 am
by austinfilm
Before Sunrise/ Before Sunset is also on the way. I am not sure who is releasing it. The proofs I saw were criterion-esque but I am not sure, just saw the artwork.... didn't ask. there was no criterion logo on the artwork, but it looked to artistic to be a WB release.

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:01 am
by Tribe
austinfilm wrote:probably shouldn't have bothered posting, just telling you that i know. i am trying to put information out there as i thought people would want to know. nitpick away, are you gonna correct grammar too?
Hell, no...post away...I understood what you wrote.

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:03 am
by jaredsap
austinfilm wrote:probably shouldn't have bothered posting, just telling you that i know. i am trying to put information out there as i thought people would want to know. nitpick away, are you gonna correct grammar too?
I'm not trying to be pedantic and I appreciate you posting. Criterion releases of BADLANDS and BEFORE SUNRISE / BEFORE SUNSET would be absolutely phenomenal. But given that you're brand new to the forum, I was trying to clear up confusion before expectations go through the roof (especially since Linklater's production company just denied a Criterion BS / BS set is in the works). There have been recent incidents here where people made outrageous claims -- like finding a print of Murnau's lost film 4 DEVILS -- that proved to be complete nonsense.

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:19 am
by kaujot
I can easily see Badlands being licensed, as Warner's has stated that they have absolutely no intentions of doing anything with it. Why not make some money in this economy?

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:21 am
by austinfilm
i guess only the future knows. Linklater mentioned the criterion/wb deal was for 5 films. not sure what the other two are.

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:16 am
by justeleblanc
Is it possible the Warner deal was only for New Line titles? They are technically a separate entity.

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:18 am
by Cronenfly
Well, of the three definitely confirmed I think it's safe to say Zabriskie Point will be the last to come out; I could see Warner milkin' fools with the barebones edition in May (seeing as the movie's so long-awaited, even just with a decent OAR, 16x9, progressive transfer, let alone featuring supplements) and then having CC announce their loaded SE in June (or a few months later) on SD and Blu-ray (as Highway 61 suggests). What other supplements come to mind for this beyond the Soderbergh commentary/Linklater contributions?

While I personally hope that BS/BS aren't the two other titles, I wouldn't be surprised (perhaps Linklater's production company was just being cagey?); in any case, time will tell, and thank you for sharing what you know, austinfilm. It's much appreciated, and hopefully our (somewhat justified, given the 4 Devils incident et al) skepticism won't scare you away, 'cause lord knows we love our insider info 'round these here parts.

Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:24 am
by Jeff
justeleblanc wrote:Is it possible the Warner deal was only for New Line titles? They are technically a separate entity.
Not really anymore. We have already had SubUrbia semi-confirmed, and it's a proper Warner title.