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Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:44 pm
by Perkins Cobb
Somebody over at DVDTalk claiming to be a video rental insider
sez that the Blockbuster-IFC/Weinstein exclusive deal is toast. Predictable.
IFC and Blockbuster's Joe Sixpack customer base were a serious mismatch, and there are far less complicated things than marketing these films to a new audience that BB can't get right.
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:50 pm
by justeleblanc
Perkins Cobb wrote:Somebody over at DVDTalk claiming to be a video rental insider
sez that the Blockbuster-IFC/Weinstein exclusive deal is toast. Predictable.
IFC and Blockbuster's Joe Sixpack customer base were a serious mismatch, and there are far less complicated things than marketing these films to a new audience that BB can't get right.
A few things wrong with this. One, IFC is no longer with Genius/Weinstein, they are with MPI. Two, when IFC announced their relationship with MPI, they said they ARE continuing their Blockbuster exclusive deal.
Blockbuster paying IFC for advanced copies of their titles in order to compete with Netflix does make sense, however, the fact that IFC, on their own volition, does not release titles well after the end of the exclusive period is solely IFC's fault. Many of their films are not available on DVD outside of Blockbuster and Blockbuster did not pay IFC in order to be the ONLY distributor of IFC titles for more than a year.
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:19 pm
by Perkins Cobb
Thanks for clarifying that. However, I do think you've failed to realize that in any deal involving Blockbuster, Blockbuster is automatically the bad guy.
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:22 pm
by justeleblanc
Perkins Cobb wrote:Thanks for clarifying that. However, I do think you've failed to realize that in any deal involving Blockbuster, Blockbuster is automatically the bad guy.
Of course.
Also, assuming that IFC is easier to get information from than IFC, has anyone directly asked their contacts at IFC which titles will become Criterions?
On IFC's website they announce these titles as 'coming soon' to DVD:
* Hunger
* Summer Hours
* The Escapist
* Pontypool
* Dead Snow
* Quiet Chaos
* Before the Fall
* How to Be
* I Hate Valentine’s Day
* In the Loop
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:28 pm
by ianungstad
Out of those listed as forthcoming on the IFC site, the only ones that I think would even interest criterion is Summer Hours, In the Loop and Hunger. The rest is mostly low budget indy horror fare. (That would Include I hate Valentine's Day, which I'm sure is as horrific as Dead Snow)
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:12 pm
by AfterTheRain
ianungstad wrote:The rest is mostly low budget indy horror fare. (That would Include I hate Valentine's Day, which I'm sure is as horrific as Dead Snow)
I Hate Valentine's Day a horror film?

That's a romantic comedy, silly; it would probably be about as scary as an episode of Friends. ( I woudn't know, but I think that's what it probably would be like.) There, I said it; get your story straight before you make a fool out of yourself.
Am I the only one who seems to know these things?
A fool and his mockery are soon departed
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:31 pm
by domino harvey
AfterTheRain wrote:ianungstad wrote:The rest is mostly low budget indy horror fare. (That would Include I hate Valentine's Day, which I'm sure is as horrific as Dead Snow)
I Hate Valentine's Day a horror film?

That's a romantic comedy, silly; it would probably be about as scary as an episode of Friends. ( I woudn't know, but I think that's what it probably would be like.) There, I said it; get your story straight before you make a fool out of yourself.
Am I the only one who seems to know these things?
At the very least, you aren't the only one who doesn't recognize sarcasm on this board. He was saying that the quality of the romantic comedy film would make it as horrific as the horror film.
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:38 pm
by CSM126
I'm telling you right now: if Criterion releases I Hate Valentine's Day, we're calling the thread I Hate Peter Becker and renaming this place the MoCforum.org.
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:01 am
by knives
CSM126 wrote:I'm telling you right now: if Criterion releases I Hate Valentine's Day, we're calling the thread I Hate Peter Becker and renaming this place the MoCforum.org.
....or In Search of a Midnight Kiss. Can a film be any blander while being that hipster quirk?
Re: A fool and his mockery are soon departed
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:08 am
by AfterTheRain
domino harvey wrote:AfterTheRain wrote:ianungstad wrote:The rest is mostly low budget indy horror fare. (That would Include I hate Valentine's Day, which I'm sure is as horrific as Dead Snow)
I Hate Valentine's Day a horror film?

That's a romantic comedy, silly; it would probably be about as scary as an episode of Friends. ( I woudn't know, but I think that's what it probably would be like.) There, I said it; get your story straight before you make a fool out of yourself.
Am I the only one who seems to know these things?
At the very least, you aren't the only one who doesn't recognize sarcasm on this board. He was saying that the quality of the romantic comedy film would make it as horrific as the horror film.
Oh, a thousand pardons wise and exaulted one.
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:03 am
by The Elegant Dandy Fop
knives wrote:CSM126 wrote:I'm telling you right now: if Criterion releases I Hate Valentine's Day, we're calling the thread I Hate Peter Becker and renaming this place the MoCforum.org.
....or In Search of a Midnight Kiss. Can a film be any blander while being that hipster quirk?
I've met the cinematographer for this and by his meeting alone, I refuse to watch this film. He was a grand-master of all douches and kept trying to ask my friend out (who's almost half his age). He kept saying how the cinematography was influenced by Godard and when I mentioned Raoul Coutard, he looked clueless. Proof that any chump can make a movie and make money off it no less.
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:51 am
by Narshty
Just noting a quick prayer for Jan Troell's Everlasting Moments - a wonderful late-career classic.
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:00 pm
by Antoine Doinel
Criterion and IFC made a
twelve picture deal.
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:36 am
by Cinephrenic
I haven't seen The Aura, but any chance on Criterion? Is it a great film?
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:45 pm
by dadaistnun
Others have already speculated this, and I know it's already got a bare-bones release, but I bet Flight of the Red Balloon is one of the titles. That might explain the delay of the full blown Criterion edition of the Lamorisse that's been promised.
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:11 am
by Tribe
Utter speculation...but what are the odds the deal might include a first foray by Criterion into animation? I'm referring to
Peur(s) du noir...an anthology of animated works by some of today's most fantastically minded comix artists, like Charles Burns, Blutch, Mattotti and others? It is an IFC property...
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:31 am
by ianungstad
I wish. The Charles Burn piece looks especially good. MPI is releasing it as a barebones disc in October, so we can scratch that off the list of possibilities. Criterion doesn't seem interested in animation anyways. They could have easily released a few at this point. There's lots of high quality animation still waiting on a home video release. They also chose to release the Janus owned Animal Farm through HVe rather than the Criterion collection. (I think that's a pretty well known animated film too.)
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:59 pm
by flyonthewall2983
Long shot, but maybe they can release the remaining seasons of Dinner For Five, or more likely it frees up time for IFC to work on it.
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:15 pm
by zedz
Tribe wrote:Utter speculation...but what are the odds the deal might include a first foray by Criterion into animation? I'm referring to
Peur(s) du noir...an anthology of animated works by some of today's most fantastically minded comix artists, like Charles Burns, Blutch, Mattotti and others? It is an IFC property...
It's really not that good, in my opinion. Plenty of beautiful design, but it doesn't often translate into exciting filmmaking, and the stories are predictable. The Burns, for example, ploughs very old turf - you feel like you've already seen it.
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:40 am
by Ashirg
MPI already announced Peur(s) du noir... for October 27
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:17 am
by Antoine Doinel
Variety confirms Che (in December),
Summer Hours,
Hunger,
Still Walking,
The Secret of the Grain and
Everlasting Moments coming from Criterion.
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:21 am
by Cosmo Vitelli
Antoine Doinel wrote:Variety confirms Che (in December),
Summer Hours,
Hunger,
Still Walking,
The Secret of the Grain and
Everlasting Moments coming from Criterion.
Thanks. I guess these will be going the Blu-ray route too, right? If so, Pierrot Le Fou (Sept.), Che (Dec.), and Hunger (2010?) are my 3 confirmed Blu-rays I am looking forward to.
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:26 am
by ianungstad
Are you sure you understood Mulvaney correctly that it's a 12 picture deal or did he just say that there were already 12 IFC titles slated for release? That press release makes this seem like it's going to be an ongoing deal. Especially the quotes by IFC about using the Criterion brand to potentially sweeten future distribution deals.
I wonder why Mulv. said that Antichrist may not be coming considering the info in this press release would almost make you think it's a given.
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:36 am
by jurples
IndieWire wrote:Criterion Signs IFC Deal; 10 Titles on Tap, So Far
A trio of recent IFC Films releases, including Arnaud Desplechin’s “A Christmas Tale,” Matteo Garrone’s “Gomorrah,” and Steven Soderbergh’s “Che,” are the first titles coming to DVD via a company deal with Criterion.
The first three films are due later this year with seven more already on tap for the partnership.
Special editions of Alfonso Cuaron’s “Y Tu Mama Tambien” and Christopher Nolan’s first feature, “Following,” are in the works, while a number of films will hit Criterion next year.
Titles on tap for 2010 will include a handful of recent IFC releases: Jan Troell’s “Everlasting Moments,” Olivier Assayas’ “Summer Hours,” Steve McQueen’s “Hunger,” Hirokazu Kore-Eda’s “Still Walking,” and Abdellatif Kechiche’s “The Secret of the Grain.”
Criterion will release select IFC films on an ongoing basis, in special edition formats, on both DVD and Blu-ray, the companies said tonight. “A Christmas Tale” is coming November 10th and “Gomorrah” on November 24th, while “Che” will also be released this year.
“IFC Films has been on an incredible roll, hunting down daring international films and spotting filmmakers whose work will stand the test of time,” said Criterion’s Peter Becker, in a statement, “Criterion has always presented a mix of international classics and director-approved editions of important contemporary films, so this new slate of releases fits our mission perfectly. These films are future classics, and we’re very excited about the opportunity to work with the filmmakers to present them in great editions right from the start.”
IFC and Criterion last worked together on a DVD release of Alfonso Cuaron’s early feature, “Solo Con Tu Pareja.”
Re: Criterion/IFC
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:46 am
by Antoine Doinel
Mulvaney didn't get into the details of the IFC deal but what it does mean is that Criterion already has twelve titles agreed upon with IFC to release, Antichrist currently not being one of them. As the article makes clear, IFC is the deciding factor in what goes to Criterion and what goes to MPI, so (for whatever bizarro reason) they may have already determined MPI is the best route for that film.