Re: Awards Season 2024
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:54 am
Yeah, I would've put money down that I got the recommendation from domino in the first place
(Adra nearly couldn't attend due to the difficulties of getting a visa.)Inside the Oscar-Nominated Film That No Studio Will Touch: “No Other Land,” about the destruction of a village in the occupied West Bank, is one of the year’s most acclaimed films. Still, U.S. studios are unwilling to distribute it.
I'm incredibly pleased Ralph Fiennes and Isabella Rossellini, my two winners, were standinghearthesilence wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 7:20 am Re: No Other Land, I was curious what the reaction on social media was like, so I did a quick search. I should've expected this, but one thing people are pointing out (or joking about) is that not everyone was applauding and of course people were then identifying who those seated individuals were and etc etc
I know this is a rhetorical question but the answer is still no.bearcuborg wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 5:01 pm I guess for some When Harry Met Sally is a classic, but isn't it more true that it's a fucking lame Woody Allen rip off?
Looking at it again, I feel like most people did applaud, if not stand (though many were standing), and I guess there was one limp applause but who knows why, they might not have seen the film. The only egregious one I saw was Diane Warren who kept her head down and did not applause. (Quick search suggests she wasn’t going to be a receptive viewer for the film.)ryannichols7 wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 7:31 amI'm incredibly pleased Ralph Fiennes and Isabella Rossellini, my two winners, were standinghearthesilence wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 7:20 am Re: No Other Land, I was curious what the reaction on social media was like, so I did a quick search. I should've expected this, but one thing people are pointing out (or joking about) is that not everyone was applauding and of course people were then identifying who those seated individuals were and etc etc
if Janus/Sideshow grab No Other Land I promise I'll never trash talk them again
Also given some of the idiotic discourse around this, it should further be noted that Sean Baker stood up and applauded for the No Other Land winnershearthesilence wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 5:39 pmLooking at it again, I feel like most people did applaud, if not stand (though many were standing), and I guess there was one limp applause but who knows why, they might not have seen the film. The only egregious one I saw was Diane Warren who kept her head down and did not applause. (Quick search suggests she wasn’t going to be a receptive viewer for the film.)ryannichols7 wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 7:31 amI'm incredibly pleased Ralph Fiennes and Isabella Rossellini, my two winners, were standinghearthesilence wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 7:20 am Re: No Other Land, I was curious what the reaction on social media was like, so I did a quick search. I should've expected this, but one thing people are pointing out (or joking about) is that not everyone was applauding and of course people were then identifying who those seated individuals were and etc etc
if Janus/Sideshow grab No Other Land I promise I'll never trash talk them again
I really wish David Lynch got his own segment, and I would've given Alain Delon one too rather than leaving him out altogether. (Gene Hackman deserved one too but it would've been way too late to put one together.)Adam Schlesinger of Fountains Of Wayne wrote:I was up against Andrew Lloyd Webber and Diane Warren. You know, all my peers, basically...It was funny, because Diane Warren was sitting right in front of me, and she writes these really sappy love ballads, but her personality does not fit her music. When [Andrew Lloyd Webber won for “You Must Love Me”], she was like, "That piece of shit won?”
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hearthesilence wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:13 pmI really wish David Lynch got his own segment, and I would've given Alain Delon one too rather than leaving him out altogether. (Gene Hackman deserved one too but it would've been way too late to put one together.)Adam Schlesinger of Fountains Of Wayne wrote:I was up against Andrew Lloyd Webber and Diane Warren. You know, all my peers, basically...It was funny, because Diane Warren was sitting right in front of me, and she writes these really sappy love ballads, but her personality does not fit her music. When [Andrew Lloyd Webber won for “You Must Love Me”], she was like, "That piece of shit won?”
I didn't expect either to happen given the direction the Oscars have taken over the past 10 years, but there is precedent for both. Remember, Kubrick was honored in grand fashion following his death (with Spielberg introducing the clip reel for Kubrick) and John Hughes got an enormous one with actors he made famous. To be brutally honest, I'm not a fan of Hughes's work - even the best of them were never that good to me - but like Kubrick you felt like the Academy was trying to honor a director who obviously carved their place in mainstream American film history with limited recognition from the Academy. (In Kubrick's case, quite a few nominations but only one visual effects award. I don't recall Hughes ever getting nominated for anything.) Lynch may have gotten an honorary Oscar in 2019, but by that point, they didn't bother to include those in the main broadcast, which is a huge mistake IMHO. (It's pretty awesome that someone as uncompromising and influential as Michelangelo Antonioni made a rare appearance to receive an Honorary Oscar in 1995, memorably presented by Jack Nicholson, and pretty fucking sad that we'll probably never get moments like that again.)
Delon wouldn't be the first international star honored in such fashion, but those days are long gone. Even a massively popular American film star like Paul Newman wasn't given anything more than a brief appearance in the memorial reel in 2009.
I read that the movie has yet to land a US distribution deal but also that the movie is showing at selected US theaters? Isn't that distribution? Do they mean someone to release it on physical media or something like that?hearthesilence wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 6:47 am(Adra nearly couldn't attend due to the difficulties of getting a visa.)Inside the Oscar-Nominated Film That No Studio Will Touch: “No Other Land,” about the destruction of a village in the occupied West Bank, is one of the year’s most acclaimed films. Still, U.S. studios are unwilling to distribute it.
And is that better because they get to keep a bigger share of box office receipts without having to share with a distributor?Grand Wazoo wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 1:38 pm It's being self distributed, which is a different practice than proper acquisition and distribution.
Assuming it finds a large audience, absolutely. But even David Lynch lost a fortune when he self-distributed Inland Empire, and Peter Bogdanovich never recovered after handling They All Laughed.felipe wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 9:54 pmAnd is that better because they get to keep a bigger share of box office receipts without having to share with a distributor?Grand Wazoo wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 1:38 pm It's being self distributed, which is a different practice than proper acquisition and distribution.
They also want to get this seen by as many people as possible. On the home viewing front, that's much easier if, say, a major streamer picks it up and promotes it to their subscribers rather than leaving it to fend for itself in the wilderness of YouTube or Vimeo. It could do well on its own that way now that it has an Oscar, but I'm guessing there's enough viewing data at this point to suggest it wouldn't.felipe wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 9:54 pmAnd is that better because they get to keep a bigger share of box office receipts without having to share with a distributor?Grand Wazoo wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 1:38 pm It's being self distributed, which is a different practice than proper acquisition and distribution.
hearthesilence wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 5:15 pm "No Other Land Won an Oscar. Many People Hope You Don’t See It." NY Times op-ed by Palestinian American activist Rania Batrice and Israeli American activist Libby Lenkinski on the reaction to the film and Oscar speech following the film's Oscar win, specifically from the Israeli government and the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement (e.g. The Palestinian Campaign for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel).