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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:27 am
by luridedith
domino harvey wrote:From the Facebook Flixter entry for Shadow of a Doubt-- as good a reason as any for right-click-deleting the internet from existence
Yeah Facebook Flixster is by far the most depressingly stupid place on the Internet, even worse than the IMDB boards.

Eddie's At It Again

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:39 pm
by greggster59

Re: Eddie's At It Again

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:54 pm
by jbeall
If Feng were a little more menacing, Tooze would have to get a restraining order. As it stands, Feng's responsible for the most hilarious one-man crusade since Ron Paul and maybe Fred Phelps.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:00 am
by hddvdreviews
restraining order for what?

gary made a factual error. this can be verified by the more than one billion people in the world who can read chinese.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:07 am
by jbeall
And we can count on you to harp on it, as well as any other little mistakes Gary makes...

OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN!!!!!

Let it go, man, for your own good.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:18 am
by Via_Chicago
zedz wrote:
Jean-Luc Garbo wrote:At least he finds Monty Python better than Lancelot. Sad, though, because with a little more brain he could do a comparative analysis.
Great find! There are indeed meaningful comparisons that could be made, but he's way too dim to see that. He's also tantalisingly close to insight in this bit:
The soundtrack is appalling; all through the movie the sound intrudes with the nonstop clancking of armour and a single horse neighing over and over and over again in the background, the same horse, the same neighs.
What could the director have been thinking!? I'm surprised he didn't point out the constant 'misframing' ("What's with all the feet, anyway?")
I've written extensively on the historiographical implications of Lancelot, and am a big fan of the Python film (especially since the latter clearly references the former on more than one occasion). If I have some time this spring, I'd be plenty happy to at least write a short comparative piece. I hope to revisit and re-write my Lancelot essay anyway.

Edit: That guy's review is pretty great, by the way. It's like he recognizes all the specific formal elements, but then he never puts 2 and 2 together.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:32 am
by domino harvey
I love that Feng still reads the website that fired him

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:18 am
by hddvdreviews
i love that you're still lying.

as gary has already acknowledged, i RESIGNED.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:33 am
by Mr Sausage
Feng posted this in the DVDbeaver thread, which is where this should be discussed, if it needs to be discussed at all. Feng also posted the same thing in this thread earlier; I deleted both it and the responses.

Let's try not to repeat the whole debacle again, shall we? If you're suffering from board-blowout withdrawal, go re-read the Feng thread, or contribute to the kevyip thread.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:02 am
by MichaelB
Via_Chicago wrote:I've written extensively on the historiographical implications of Lancelot, and am a big fan of the Python film (especially since the latter clearly references the former on more than one occasion).
I always used to assume that it was an absolute certainty that the Python crew - or at the very least either Terry Jones or Terry Gilliam - had seen Lancelot prior to making Monty Python and the Holy Grail, but the Bresson film didn't actually open in Britain until well after shooting had finished.

True, one of the Pythons could conceivably have caught the world premiere at Cannes (which I think was just before shooting started) - but has any of them ever mentioned this?
Mr_sausage wrote:Feng posted this in the DVDbeaver thread, which is where this should be discussed, if it needs to be discussed at all. Feng also posted the same thing in this thread earlier; I deleted both it and the responses.
And I'm willing to bet that I'm not the only one who received a PM about this either...

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:16 pm
by Via_Chicago
MichaelB wrote:
Via_Chicago wrote:I've written extensively on the historiographical implications of Lancelot, and am a big fan of the Python film (especially since the latter clearly references the former on more than one occasion).
I always used to assume that it was an absolute certainty that the Python crew - or at the very least either Terry Jones or Terry Gilliam - had seen Lancelot prior to making Monty Python and the Holy Grail, but the Bresson film didn't actually open in Britain until well after shooting had finished.

True, one of the Pythons could conceivably have caught the world premiere at Cannes (which I think was just before shooting started) - but has any of them ever mentioned this?
Interesting. That was always my assumption as well, given the way that Grail tends to parody the use of blood and gore in Lancelot. I think it's still worthy of a comparison on an historiographical level, but perhaps I'll have to rethink my previous assumptions. I remember reading one text that explicitly acknowledged the parody; I'll look that up later today if I have the time.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:17 pm
by Antoine Doinel
MichaelB wrote:
Mr_sausage wrote:Feng posted this in the DVDbeaver thread, which is where this should be discussed, if it needs to be discussed at all. Feng also posted the same thing in this thread earlier; I deleted both it and the responses.
And I'm willing to bet that I'm not the only one who received a PM about this either...
I got a PM as well.

But at least now I know where to go when I need a review of the HD DVD of No Reservations.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:30 pm
by MichaelB
Via_Chicago wrote:Interesting. That was always my assumption as well, given the way that Grail tends to parody the use of blood and gore in Lancelot. I think it's still worthy of a comparison on an historiographical level, but perhaps I'll have to rethink my previous assumptions. I remember reading one text that explicitly acknowledged the parody; I'll look that up later today if I have the time.
I don't have the exact dates to hand, but my understanding of the chronology is roughly this:

May 1974 - Lancelot du Lac has world premiere at Cannes;
Late 1974 - Monty Python and the Holy Grail starts shooting;
April 1975 - Monty Python and the Holy Grail goes on UK release;
September 1975 - Lancelot du Lac goes on UK release.

What I don't know is whether Lancelot was screened in the previous year's London Film Festival (or at any other UK festival), or indeed whether one of the Pythons saw it at Cannes or on its late 1974 French release (though the latter wouldn't have had subtitles, and probably coincided with the actual shoot). Or even whether someone like Terry Gilliam saw a still - which might well have provided inspiration in itself!

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:45 pm
by cdnchris
Antoine Doinel wrote:
MichaelB wrote:
Mr_sausage wrote:Feng posted this in the DVDbeaver thread, which is where this should be discussed, if it needs to be discussed at all. Feng also posted the same thing in this thread earlier; I deleted both it and the responses.
And I'm willing to bet that I'm not the only one who received a PM about this either...
I got a PM as well.

But at least now I know where to go when I need a review of the HD DVD of No Reservations.
Don't tell me the guy's spamming people through PMs...

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:46 pm
by Mr Sausage
Antoine Doinel wrote:
MichaelB wrote:
Mr_sausage wrote:Feng posted this in the DVDbeaver thread, which is where this should be discussed, if it needs to be discussed at all. Feng also posted the same thing in this thread earlier; I deleted both it and the responses.
And I'm willing to bet that I'm not the only one who received a PM about this either...
I got a PM as well.

But at least now I know where to go when I need a review of the HD DVD of No Reservations.
Really? Without necessarily disclosing the exact contents of it, what was it about?

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:28 pm
by miless
it might not be for a movie, but god-damn... this is great

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:51 pm
by MichaelB
Mr_sausage wrote:Really? Without necessarily disclosing the exact contents of it, what was it about?
The Feng-Tooze feud, unsurprisingly.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:46 pm
by hddvdreviews
i'm not PM spamming.

i PMed "antoine doinel" because he replied to my post about gary tooze's erroneous title capture for "summer palace".

i PMed michaelb because, several times, he wondered why i didn't try to resolve the plagiarism matter via e-mail. i told michaelb that i DID e-mail gary. in fact, leonard norwitz (dvdbeaver's blu-ray reviewer) caught wind of the issue, too, and e-mailed gary as well. gary ignored leonard and me, and he didn't do anything about the "zodiac" review until i blogged about it. however, as gary admitted in the "vs." thread, what he did was wrong.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:52 pm
by Mr Sausage
hddvdreviews wrote:i'm not PM spamming.
No one accused you of it.
hddvdreviews wrote:i PMed "antoine doinel" because he replied to my post about gary tooze's erroneous title capture for "summer palace".

i PMed michaelb because, several times, he wondered why i didn't try to resolve the plagiarism matter via e-mail. i told michaelb that i DID e-mail gary. in fact, leonard norwitz (dvdbeaver's blu-ray reviewer) caught wind of the issue, too, and e-mailed gary as well. gary ignored leonard and me, and he didn't do anything about the "zodiac" review until i blogged about it. however, as gary admitted in the "vs." thread, what he did was wrong.
There's no need to explain yourself, Eddie, you're not being suspected or accused of anything. But it would be better if you kept your issues with Gary to personal correspondence only.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:58 pm
by hddvdreviews
Mr_sausage wrote:There's no need to explain yourself, Eddie, you're not being suspected or accused of anything.
thank you for your kind words.

it's unfortunate that some of the people here seem to disregard the difference between fact and opinion. the "summer palace" title cap would still be an error if someone else had mentioned it.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:59 pm
by MichaelB
hddvdreviews wrote:i PMed michaelb because, several times, he wondered why i didn't try to resolve the plagiarism matter via e-mail.
Lest this give the wrong impression, I haven't devoted even a single brain cell to this ludicrous feud for several weeks and didn't care that much about it when it was erupting in public (except in a vaguely sadistic poke-him-with-a-stick kind of way).

Hence my surprise when this bizarre PM arrived out of the blue.

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:42 am
by Morbii
Awesome wording, MichaelB :o

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:59 am
by John Cope
From reliable old IMDB. A review of Funny Games. Representative of what is to come when this movie opens wide? Your guess is as good as mine...
Weird Film, 11 March 2008

Author: Joe Canton from United States

What I saw in this film was so low budget, that i literally decided to walk away from this film. But then a kill caught my attention and i sat down. This film's over the top gore is a refresher and a great way to keep the film going. The suspense is there, but doesn't feel quite finished. It seemed like they kind of rushed these scenes. The main actors all do a fine performance, not too over the top and not too shallow. The main problem i had with this film was that its low budgetness(not a word) that its length suffered. Its 107 min. on IMDb but it feels way too rushed. Im not gonna lie, Naomi Watts was above average. The main story is fine, but there are a few holes in the story. This is a good attempt at a remake of the original Funny Games, but can never reach that one's heights. At best, get the DVD. Its a good film, but only pay for the DVD, not the ticket.

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:02 pm
by miless
huh?

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:30 pm
by Morbii
...that i literally decided to walk away from this film. But then a kill caught my attention and i sat down.
LOL

Kinda funny that he later goes to say "not worth the movie ticket, but buy the DVD" (para) where the DVD would be more expensive...