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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:53 pm
by warren oates
I too hope they go after Seconds, which would look amazing on Blu-ray and was thinking about the film when I saw the Rosemary's Baby clue. And speaking of Seconds + The Face of Another, I was actually planning to watch that double feature tonight.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:54 pm
by bainbridgezu
Someone on the blu-ray.com forum asked about Marathon Man through the Paramount Film Club's Facebook page (sometime this past February): Paramount's representative replied that the studio had struck a new deal with Criterion (obviously), but that if Marathon Man were to be released on blu-ray, it would be through Paramount directly.
This could be bullshit though, it seems like Rosemary's Baby would be just as popular/prestigious, if not more so.
Re: Criterion and Paramount
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:55 pm
by captveg
So, what we know now:
Confirmed: Rosemary's Baby, Harold & Maude
Highly likely: The Conformist, The Miracle of Morgan's Creek, more Blu upgrades of previously released DVD-only titles
Random Possibilities & Fun Speculation: The Tenant, Nashville, La Dolve Vita, Seconds, Medium Cool, Deep End, Serpico, Hud, Bringing Out the Dead, Paper Moon, The Elephant Man, Seconds
Out: Republic titles (licensed to Olive - includes Invasion of the Body Snatchers, The Quiet Man, Johnny Guitar), Paramount released 100th Anniversary titles (Chinatown, Barbarella, Wings, Love Story, To Catch a Thief, Clue, Clueless, Hondo) - there should be 4 more for Sep-Dec, and one should be Samson & Delilah.
Very Unlikely: Sunset Boulevard, Stalag 17, Shane, Roman Holiday, Marathon Man (via Paramount Facebook), John Wayne titles, Jerry Lewis titles (most seem to be going to Olive)
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:56 pm
by knives
Hoffman > Cassavetes is probably the thought going on here. Despite Rosemary's Baby being the more well known title I'm sure the thought process is that putting a more famous person on the cover will encourage more blind buys.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:59 pm
by swo17
What A Disgrace wrote:I wonder if its possible that Criterion licensed some of the OOP Jerry Lewis titles from Paramount
Doesn't Lewis own his films outright, and only licensed them to Paramount for their release on DVD?
Re: Criterion and Paramount
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:01 pm
by TMDaines
What makes Il conformista "highly likely"?
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:03 pm
by captveg
swo17 wrote:What A Disgrace wrote:I wonder if its possible that Criterion licensed some of the OOP Jerry Lewis titles from Paramount
Doesn't Lewis own his films outright, and only licensed them to Paramount for their release on DVD?
Possible. And would Paramount really give up
The Nutty Professor, anyway?
I'm pretty sure that's the situation with the John Wayne films, so I wouldn't expect
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance from anyone but Paramount proper. Even if they owned the Wayne films outright he sells too well on home video to give him up to another distributor.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:04 pm
by bainbridgezu
domino harvey wrote:Someone asked them about Seconds and they said to the effect of they weren't interested
Was this somewhat recently? The information (roughly a year old) in the "Criterion and Paramount" thread indicates that they
would like to release the film, but didn't have the rights (this was before the current deal).
Re: Criterion and Paramount
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:04 pm
by captveg
TMDaines wrote:What makes Il conformista "highly likely"?
There's been persistent rumors about that title for a good while now. Same with Morgan's Creek. These are the same rumors that surrounded
Harold & Maude and
Rosemary's Baby. Those four titles seemed to be the "clear/obvious" titles licensed in this latest dozen or so. The real mystery is: what are the other 8-10 titles?
Re: Criterion and Paramount
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:09 pm
by bainbridgezu
TMDaines wrote:What makes Il conformista "highly likely"?
Criterion's most recent response was "Keep your fingers crossed," shortly after which Olive Films snagged
1900, but not
The Conformist.
Re: Criterion and Paramount
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:11 pm
by Calvin
Beggars of Life would be nice to have.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:14 pm
by captveg
bainbridgezu wrote:domino harvey wrote:Someone asked them about Seconds and they said to the effect of they weren't interested
Was this somewhat recently? The information (roughly a year old) in the "Criterion and Paramount" thread indicates that they
would like to release the film, but didn't have the rights (this was before the current deal).
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that statement is 4-5 years old at this point. I wouldn't put
Seconds out of the running anymore.
Re: Criterion and Paramount
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:18 pm
by souvenir
Atlantic City seems like a decent possibility. Maybe even Pretty Baby.
There's also The Parallax View.
Re: Criterion and Paramount
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:22 pm
by swo17
Here is a list of OOP Paramount DVDs (though some of these titles are obviously not up for grabs). Speculate away!
Re: Criterion and Paramount
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:28 pm
by bainbridgezu
souvenir wrote:Atlantic City seems like a decent possibility. Maybe even Pretty Baby.
Whoa, where's this coming from? The way you're talking, I'd think Criterion had an unwieldy hard-on for Louis Malle.
Joking aside, these do seem like probable candidates.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:37 pm
by movielocke
Other Possibilities, maybe?
Awful Truth
Ruggles of Red Gap
The Wedding March
Midnight
Five Graves to Cairo
The Emperor Waltz
The Heiress
Re: Criterion and Paramount
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:58 pm
by Calvin
They could have a themed month with Pretty Baby and a David Hamilton eclipse.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:11 pm
by eerik
movielocke wrote:Other Possibilities, maybe?
Awful Truth
Ruggles of Red Gap
The Wedding March
Midnight
Five Graves to Cairo
The Emperor Waltz
The Heiress
Does Paramount even own any of these titles? The Awful Truth is Sony/Columbia and the rest are with Universal, as they own most of the pre-50s Paramount titles (as far as I know)
Re: Criterion and Paramount
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:14 pm
by TMDaines
bainbridgezu wrote:TMDaines wrote:What makes Il conformista "highly likely"?
Criterion's most recent response was "Keep your fingers crossed," shortly after which Olive Films snagged
1900, but not
The Conformist.
I must have missed that. As one of my favourite films I guess I'll take a loss on the Arrow if Criterion stack their release.
Re: Criterion and Paramount
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:22 pm
by beamish13
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for JOHNNY GUITAR (did Olive get first dibs on all the Republic titles?) and DAY OF THE LOCUST.
Gordon Parks' LEADBELLY would be a terrific addition.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:08 pm
by captveg
eerik wrote:movielocke wrote:Other Possibilities, maybe?
Awful Truth
Ruggles of Red Gap
The Wedding March
Midnight
Five Graves to Cairo
The Emperor Waltz
The Heiress
Does Paramount even own any of these titles? The Awful Truth is Sony/Columbia and the rest are with Universal, as they own most of the pre-50s Paramount titles (as far as I know)
That's essentially correct. Paramount retained their silents and a handful of titles, but most of their 30s/40s titles are with Universal.
beamish13 wrote:I'm keeping my fingers crossed for JOHNNY GUITAR (did Olive get first dibs on all the Republic titles?)
Olive got the entire Republic library that Paramount owns. They specifically mentioned that Johnny Guitar was scheduled for this year.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:09 pm
by Peacock
Criterion have had the rights to The Wedding March for quite a while now.
Re: Criterion and Paramount
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:12 pm
by knives
souvenir wrote:Atlantic City seems like a decent possibility. Maybe even Pretty Baby.
There's also The Parallax View.
Pretty Baby is still very much in print so I doubt that one is a potential
Re: Criterion and Paramount
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:16 pm
by domino harvey
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:27 pm
by colinr0380
warren oates wrote:I too hope they go after Seconds, which would look amazing on Blu-ray and was thinking about the film when I saw the Rosemary's Baby clue. And speaking of Seconds + The Face of Another, I was actually planning to watch that double feature tonight.
I'd also love to see Seconds get a release, though if we are talking double bills, in a perfect world I'd like to see Criterion release
Suture at the same time (though I think it got a DVD release through MGM in the US)