Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol. 6

[javi82]

The Dr. Strangelove Blu-Ray has actually been OOP for quite a while now (and is fetching high prices on Amazon)...

Presumably, someone will be issuing a 50th anniversary packaging this year. Whether or not it uses a new transfer...?

[beastwave]

If there is any single film director who should have virtually all of his or her films in the CC it is Kubrick. I just seriously feel like his films have become so iconic, and so handcuffed by the studios that own them, that we may have to wait a very very very long time to see those films join CC.

I once believed foolishly that Rumble Fish would join the CC. A man can dream...

[Ovader]

MH on FB

Spent the day working on the color correction on the Criterion blu ray of THE SHOOTING. Working from a scan of the original negative. What a revelation! Saw it side by side with the IP. At least twice the information. It's not possible for any print to be as good as a blu ray made from a 4K transfer. A DCP would be even better.
I will tell you now, you've never seen this movie before. I'VE never seen this movie before. Warren in one scene has tears in his eyes which were never visible in any print, video cassette or DVD. I'm only sad that Greg Sandor isn't here to see it. It's the way it looked when he shot it.

[swo17]

Great to hear they're still working on it!

[zedz]

If this isn't out by the end of the year, that post would constitute cruel and unusual punishment.

[Bruce]

If this isn't out by the end of the year, that post would constitute cruel and unusual punishment.

I seem to remember that Criterion were originally planning to release on Blu a double bill of 'The Shooting' and 'Ride In The Whirlwind'. Does anyone know if that is still their intention?

[Ovader]

If this isn't out by the end of the year, that post would constitute cruel and unusual punishment.

I seem to remember that Criterion were originally planning to release on Blu a double bill of 'The Shooting' and 'Ride In The Whirlwind'. Does anyone know if that is still their intention?

About an hour ago MH posted this as a response:

Yes, RIDE IN THE WHIRLWIND will be part of the box. No set date, but I hope sometime this year.

[EddieLarkin]

You ask me "box" implies at least 3 titles. Hoping for Cockfighter, assuming it isn't tied up with anyone else.

[mistakaninja]

China 9, Liberty 37 would perhaps be a better match, and it has never had a proper home release on disc. Not sure what the sources would be like, but TCM have broadcast it in better quality than the bootlegs.

[PfR73]

It'd be great, but back in 2008, when I asked him about a Criterion release of the three films, Monte Hellman told me there were rights issues for China 9, Liberty 37 he didn't forsee getting cleared up. I'd love for that to have changed in the intervening years, though.

[Askew]

A box only means that it will have more than one film.

[jwd5275]

The rights issue is probably the fact that China 9, Liberty 37 is owned by Warners.

[colinr0380]

Silent Night, Deadly Night III: Better Watch Out! [-o<

[zedz]

The Shooting and Ride in the Whirlwind have been paired since birth. I don't think any other Hellman films have the kind of compatible production history that would allow for inclusion in a box set. Roger Corman (whose New World Pictures produced Cockfighter) had some production involvement, but if imdb is to be believed Proteus Films only ever made those two films, then hibernated until 1999 (and I wouldn't be surprised if that's a different Proteus Films entirely).

[EddieLarkin]

Why not just two separate spines then? True, some titles that were individual spines first have been paired up in box sets (Yojimbo/Sanjuro), but I can't think of a Criterion release that was a box set right out the gate, but only had two titles.

[FerdinandGriffon]

The Killing
I Am Curious
The Only Son/There Was a Father

Must be plenty of others.

[EddieLarkin]

The Killing
I Am Curious
The Only Son/There Was a Father

Must be plenty of others.

I guess I didn't think hard enough (though I don't count The Killing, which simply had the second film as a bonus feature).

[FerdinandGriffon]

Ha, sorry, I meant The Killers, not the Killing.

[EddieLarkin]

Ah!

[lefeufollet]

If memory serves, the only release of two films in an actual box set housing individual cases (rather than one consisting of a two-disc Amaray or the like) was for I Am Curious.

[swo17]

The Ozu is like that as well.

[lefeufollet]

The Ozu is like that as well.

Ah, that's right. I was conflating its release with that of A Story of Floating Weeds/Floating Weeds.

[Forrest Taft]

The Shooting and Ride in the Whirlwind have been paired since birth. I don't think any other Hellman films have the kind of compatible production history that would allow for inclusion in a box set. Roger Corman (whose New World Pictures produced Cockfighter) had some production involvement, but if imdb is to be believed Proteus Films only ever made those two films, then hibernated until 1999 (and I wouldn't be surprised if that's a different Proteus Films entirely).

Maybe they'll pair them with the other two Nicholson collaborations, shot back-to-back in the Phillipines? Probably not though...

[jindianajonz]

Wasn't Monterey Pop like that as well? I've only seen the Blu-ray, so I'm not sure how it was originally released.

And weren't the Grey Gardens (before the Blu) and Brakhage sets the only way to get the second disc of each set, even if the first disc had their own individual releases originally?

[ianungstad]

I think it's highly likely Criterion will release Cockfighter. Bogdanovich said in an indiewire interview that Criterion was looking at Saint Jack. Same license holder. (Roger Corman)