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thirtyframesasecond wrote:

terabin wrote:The Oscars were great this year and always important culturally. Leo gets to make his speech as an environmental activist, The Weeknd has their most important moment as a band in the spotlight, Chris Rock has many shining stand-up moments including an incredible monologue. CK is hilarious. This is why The Oscars exist and I'm sure others here on the forum have other winking details to share. It's a thing of beauty really. Even as we delve into Tarkovsky and other Giants of film past, we can still appreciate the present cultural moment.

The Weeknd is a he, and he's had two number one singles this year. He, of all people, didn't need an Oscars bounce.

I only just noticed Lubezki made it a hat trick of Oscars (and he was nominated for Tree of Life the year before too). I wonder if anyone has ever won three in a row in any category?

flyonthewall2983 wrote:What Best Picture winners from the last 10-15 years will remain culturally relevant?

thirtyframesasecond wrote:...I wonder if anyone has ever won three in a row in any category?

htom wrote:Walt Disney won for Best Short Subject (Cartoon) eight times in a row from 1931-1932 to 1939

flyonthewall2983 wrote:
Agreed. This brings up a good question. What Best Picture winners from the last 10-15 years will remain culturally relevant?

captveg wrote:Depends on what one means by that idea. Really, only The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King crosses the film geek, pop culture, and mainstream relevance lines since A Beautiful Mind won in 2001. The others of the last 15 years all fall short in one of those areas. Doesn't mean I don't like all of them, sans Crash, or that they are without merit as film art and/or entertainment.

zedz wrote:

captveg wrote:Depends on what one means by that idea. Really, only The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King crosses the film geek, pop culture, and mainstream relevance lines since A Beautiful Mind won in 2001. The others of the last 15 years all fall short in one of those areas. Doesn't mean I don't like all of them, sans Crash, or that they are without merit as film art and/or entertainment.

I'm kind of mystified as to why you think A Beautiful Mind ticks any of those three boxes, let alone all three. Did anybody care about that film twelve months after it won the Oscar?

captveg wrote:

zedz wrote:

captveg wrote:Depends on what one means by that idea. Really, only The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King crosses the film geek, pop culture, and mainstream relevance lines since A Beautiful Mind won in 2001. The others of the last 15 years all fall short in one of those areas. Doesn't mean I don't like all of them, sans Crash, or that they are without merit as film art and/or entertainment.

I'm kind of mystified as to why you think A Beautiful Mind ticks any of those three boxes, let alone all three. Did anybody care about that film twelve months after it won the Oscar?

You misunderstood my post. I only mention A Beautiful Mind by name because it is the first of the last 15 winners. It's probably the 2nd weakest winner of those 15 after Crash by my rankings.

NYT wrote:Later, in the media room, when Mr. Smith was informed of a previous gay winner for best original song, he laughingly unleashed a couple of expletives and asked, “Who’s the other person?”

That would be the playwright and lyricist Howard Ashman, who won Academy Awards for “Under the Sea” (from “The Little Mermaid,” 1989) and for “Beauty and the Beast,” from the 1991 film of the same name, in collaboration with Alan Menken.

Of Mr. Ashman, Mr. Smith said: “I should know him. We should date.”

Mr. Ashman died at age 40 of AIDS complications in 1991.

Luke M wrote:Chris Rock made a powerful point about racism until he threw Asians under the bus

This is really good.

domino harvey wrote:No, this is really good:

NYT wrote:Later, in the media room, when Mr. Smith was informed of a previous gay winner for best original song, he laughingly unleashed a couple of expletives and asked, “Who’s the other person?”

That would be the playwright and lyricist Howard Ashman, who won Academy Awards for “Under the Sea” (from “The Little Mermaid,” 1989) and for “Beauty and the Beast,” from the 1991 film of the same name, in collaboration with Alan Menken.

Of Mr. Ashman, Mr. Smith said: “I should know him. We should date.”

Mr. Ashman died at age 40 of AIDS complications in 1991.

Film is Life wrote:Also relating to long-term legitimacy: looking back at past BP winners.

Later, in the media room, when Mr. Smith was informed of a previous gay winner for best original song, he laughingly unleashed a couple of expletives and asked, “Who’s the other person?”

That would be the playwright and lyricist Howard Ashman, who won Academy Awards for “Under the Sea” (from “The Little Mermaid,” 1989) and for “Beauty and the Beast,” from the 1991 film of the same name, in collaboration with Alan Menken.

Roger Ryan wrote:

Film is Life wrote:Also relating to long-term legitimacy: looking back at past BP winners.

I recognize this list is subjective, but the numerous "No Contender" notations really undermines the author's argument that "we" collectively remember films other than the best picture winners. Apparently, no one has time to recall 2001 because we're too busy reveling in the memory of Oliver!.

Lars Von Truffaut wrote:

Roger Ryan wrote:

Film is Life wrote:Also relating to long-term legitimacy: looking back at past BP winners.

I recognize this list is subjective, but the numerous "No Contender" notations really undermines the author's argument that "we" collectively remember films other than the best picture winners. Apparently, no one has time to recall 2001 because we're too busy reveling in the memory of Oliver!.

I believe the author is only using other "Best PIcture Nominees" as a comparison. 2001 wasn't included in that category, but rather Kubrick was nominated for "Best Director".

Ribs wrote:Rivette didn't make the cut for the In Memoriam.

knives wrote:Yeah, I've pretty happy for A24. The Ex Machina upset has to be one of the more exciting things. They're going to get real big soon.

swo17 wrote:Do they only include people who died during the last calendar year?

Feego wrote:I would argue that the author got it wrong saying that Doctor Zhivago is a better remembered film than The Sound of Music. I've never seen the musical myself, but for better or for worse, it has become a cultural icon and been passed down from generation to generation. Zhivago, on the other hand, is very much an epic of its time and probably chiefly remembered by those who were young romantics in the 60s and fell in love with its score.