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Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:27 pm
by ianungstad
I don't know if I really think the sun means anything but the speculation about "Red Sun" is not totally out of line. Terence Young has a phantom page; it's an out of print Image title; several other films from the French production company that financed it are already in the collection.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:29 pm
by BillWatkins
I've never seen Breaking the Waves, how does the angel with the bell relate to that film?
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:34 pm
by Lowry_Sam
So do the 2 other angels in the water indicate 2 more Demy films (Rochefort? Pied Piper? Model Shop) & will there be a box (with shorts)....or will it just be individual releases.....or will just Donkey Skin & Umbrellas Of Cherbourg (red) get individual releases from the box?
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:36 pm
by Michael Kerpan
Jeff wrote:
Cries and Whispers?
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:40 pm
by Fierias
Red sun = Pialat's Under the Sun of Satan?
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:42 pm
by Feego
BillWatkins wrote:I've never seen Breaking the Waves, how does the angel with the bell relate to that film?
Since you haven't seen the film, you might not want to read this, but here it is (MAJOR SPOILER):
Emily Watson's character, a rather simple-minded woman, allows herself to be sexually degraded because she believes it is God's will. She dies at the end of the film, and a chorus of heavenly bells rings at her moment of death.
The
Ringu character might actually be a reference to
Kwaidan (the "Black Hair" episode).
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:15 pm
by HelenLawson
Seems to me the jazz combo is a hint for All That Jazz (or has that already been mentioned?).
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:18 pm
by Jeff
ianungstad wrote:I don't know if I really think the sun means anything but the speculation about "Red Sun" is not totally out of line. Terence Young has a phantom page; it's an out of print Image title; several other films from the French production company that financed it are already in the collection.
Didn't realize/remember either of those things. I'm convinced, Ian.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:28 pm
by FrauBlucher
I still say the tiny littles M(s) scattered on the top of cliff means that M will be re-released in Dual and perhaps with the newest restoration. It toured less than 6 months ago.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:02 pm
by Jeff
Recap:

Four bushes... Unguessed. Possibly irrelevant.
The Deer Hunter? Universal Blu-ray has subpar transfer. Cimino probably thinks it's Michael Cimino's Criterion Collection now.
Blu-ray upgrade of
All That Heaven Allows? Was likely hinted at last year, would look great on Blu.
White Reindeer? Both Erik Blomberg's 1953 Cannes entry and the very well-received 2013 IFC film of the same title seem like reasonable possibilities.
A Hard Day's Night seems likely. Richard Lester phantom page, rights recently changed hands, due for re-issue this year.

Guy with light hair wearing a red neckerchief...
Ride the Whirlwind? An Anthony Mann/James Stewart western?
Riot in Cell Block 11. Word from a source at Olive confirmed Criterion had the rights.

Nothing entirely convincing. Probably not
Ringu.
Kwaidan?
The Wild Child?
Cries and Whispers?
The Brood?
Valerie and Her Week of Wonders?
Needs some sort of smoking gun evidence. Is the damn spot a separate clue from the girl for
Macbeth?
Tootsie
Garlic Is As Good As Ten Mothers (surely along with other Blanks)
Picnic at Hanging Rock upgrade

Box of Tati's Hulot films
The Big Chill ("Heard It Through the Grapevine")? A Raisin in the Sun?
Scanners
The Big Chill? Girl with pearls looks like
Thoroughly Modern Millie
Jazz on a Summer's Day?
Red River
Bay of Angels,
The Umbrellas of Cherbourg,
Donkey Skin, and
Lola
It's a Wonderful Life?
Breaking the Waves?
Red Sun now seems likely.
Terrence Young phantom page, formerly with Image. Possibly
A Brighter Summer Day?
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:07 pm
by NABOB OF NOWHERE
Just for the record (re recap) I guessed Jazz on a Summer's Day for the band
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:09 pm
by movielocke
Trufauts wild child and kwaidan both seem good guesses for the girl from ringu.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:11 pm
by Jeff
Ah. I'll change that. I'm also thinking possibly Ride the Whirlwind for red neckerchief guy. Nicholson and Harry Dean Stanton both wear one in the film.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:12 pm
by John Doe
Band clue could refer to a great, "little" film "Bikur Ha-Tizmoret" (The Band's Visit). US rights are held by Sony.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:17 pm
by spocker
Considering there's four beetles on the picture, could it mean all four Beatles Movies, not just A Hard days Night? (Help, Magical Mystery Tour, and Yellow Submarine as well)
It could of course just be a reference to the members themself though.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:32 pm
by zedz
I think the "bay of angels" is all Demy. One of them is a demoiselle de Rochefort (the one with the boa). I guess it's a box, because it's rare for Criterion to release that many standalone titles by one director in a single year.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:34 pm
by Jeff
According to his Criterion Corner tweets, David Ehrlich seems to have info that it's not
It's a Wonderful Life and that Criterion does indeed have the rights to
A Hard Day's Night.
zedz wrote:I think the "bay of angels" is all Demy. One of them is a demoiselle de Rochefort (the one with the boa). I guess it's a box, because it's rare for Criterion to release that many standalone titles by one director in a single year.
The boa is
Lola.
I thought the same thing about the box, but I can't imagine boxing
Umbrellas. Maybe paired releases of
Lola/Bay of Angels, Deluxe
Umbrellas, bare bones
Donkey. They also have
A Slightly Pregnant Man and
A Room in Town.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:37 pm
by captveg
Let It Be might also be a Beatles film release possibility
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:40 pm
by The Masked Marvel
Anybody know what's up with the rights to "Kikujiro?" I'm doubtful, but the angel and bell could be referencing Kitano's film.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:41 pm
by Jeff
captveg wrote:Let It Be might also be a Beatles film release possibility
Completely different rights situation, and Paul and Ringo don't want it released.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:41 pm
by Professor Wagstaff
Jeff wrote:I'd swear I've seen this image on a poster before...

Thoroughly Modern Millie?
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:44 pm
by captveg
Jeff wrote:captveg wrote:Let It Be might also be a Beatles film release possibility
Completely different rights situation, and Paul and Ringo don't want it released.
Weren't they doing a full restoration the last few years?
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:45 pm
by Jeff
Professor Wagstaff wrote:Jeff wrote:I'd swear I've seen this image on a poster before...

Thoroughly Modern Millie?
Yes
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:56 pm
by Jeff
captveg wrote:Jeff wrote:captveg wrote:Let It Be might also be a Beatles film release possibility
Completely different rights situation, and Paul and Ringo don't want it released.
Weren't they doing a full restoration the last few years?
"When we got halfway through restoring it, we looked at the outtakes and realized: this stuff is still controversial. It raised a lot of old issues."
It's owned by Apple.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:56 pm
by swo17
Jeff wrote:Maybe paired releases of Lola/Bay of Angels, Deluxe Umbrellas, bare bones Donkey. They also have A Slightly Pregnant Man and A Room in Town.
How could they release all that Demy and not also do
Les demoiselles de Rochefort?