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Re: BD 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:54 pm
by Yakushima
andyli wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:31 pm Eureka announced forthcoming 4K UHD of The General in first half of 2026.
Fingers crossed they include Joe Hisaishi soundtrack and it is in correct pitch.

Re: BD 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 3:21 pm
by FlickeringWindow
A 4K UHD would be a good opportunity to finally have a more definitive presentation with tints intact, as well as have at least the Carl Davis, Robert Israel, Joe Hisaishi, and Lee Erwin scores. Perhaps they can do a multi-angle presentation that has straight B&W, as well as tinted.

Re: BD 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 3:27 pm
by Finch
The Hisashi score would be wonderful to have but we're probably "just" getting the Davis, which is fine, but the Hisashi score really took it up a notch.

Re: BD 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 3:45 pm
by MichaelB
FlickeringWindow wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 3:21 pm A 4K UHD would be a good opportunity to finally have a more definitive presentation with tints intact, as well as have at least the Carl Davis, Robert Israel, Joe Hisaishi, and Lee Erwin scores. Perhaps they can do a multi-angle presentation that has straight B&W, as well as tinted.
Unless the running times and framerates are identical, multiple scores aren't feasible without multiple encodes. And licensing multiple scores isn't cheap either.

And, as I found out when supervising a similar multi-angle project for Indicator back in 2017 (you can toggle the b/w and colourised versions of Ray Harryhausen's 1950s films), remote controls often don't come with multi-angle buttons these days—which I see is true of both of my 4K UHD players.

Re: BD 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 6:43 pm
by ryannichols7
Hisashi's score elevated the movie greatly to me. silent scores can be a tricky thing to get right and I thought he was more than ready for the challenge of scoring a film as major as The General. I won't hold my breath for it, but I will say I'm grateful that Eureka is still sticking to their roots and bringing us a second silent film UHD - I believe this will be the second one in the anglosphere, and we only have Gance's Napoleon in France? any others I'm forgetting?

Re: BD 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 6:56 pm
by Ribs
A few - Columbia released three as bonuses in the Columbia Classics 4K set, and Kino did The Cat and the Canary also.

Re: BD 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:36 pm
by Finch
Can't hurt asking them on social media and via email if they can get the Hisashi score; I already did. I'll still buy the 4K if it's "only" the Davis score but I absolutely had my most memorable and enjoyable viewing with the Hisashi music.

Re: BD 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2026 12:44 pm
by Finch
The General 4K coming May 18.

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SPECIAL FEATURES
Limited edition O-card slipcase featuring package design by Nick Wrigley [2000 units]
Limited edition booklet featuring archival material and essays by critic Philip Kemp [2000 units]
4K (2160p) UHD Blu-ray presentation from a 4K digital restoration, presented in a new and exclusive Dolby Vision HDR (HDR 10 compatible) grade
Score by Carl Davis
New audio commentary by film historian David Kalat
New video essay on The General by Imogen Sara Smith, author of Buster Keaton: The Persistence of Comedy (2008)
New video essay on locomotives in the films of Buster Keaton by film critic and editor Luke Ryan
Interview with film scholar Peter Kramer
Introduction by Orson Welles
Introduction by Gloria Swanson
Tour of Filming Locations featurette
Video Tour archival featurette
Home movie footage

Re: BD 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2026 3:00 pm
by Finch
No Joe Hisashi score. Meh. Probably a licensing issue, but still disappointing. Am I still going to pre-order through Orbit? You bet.

Re: BD 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2026 4:34 pm
by MichaelB
Not just a licensing issue—if the Hisaishi score isn't specifically timed to the 4K master that they're using, it's not going to work, just as you're not going to be able to swap the scores in the MoC and BFI versions of Nosferatu as they're using different restorations.

Re: BD 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2026 5:34 pm
by Finch
I'd forgotten about that completely, thanks for putting the record straight.

Re: BD 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2026 6:54 pm
by ryannichols7
having Kalat and Wrigley be part of this release really feels like a "getting the band back together" moment, awesome stuff, plus Imogen (who I always enjoy talking about Keaton) and a feature about Buster's relationship with trains. I too prefer the Hisashi score, but MOC made this edition top notch!

the Welles intro is a dear favorite to me too - he loved Buster Keaton possibly more than any other human

Re: BD 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2026 5:23 pm
by pistolwink
Who knew that those intros Welles did for 1960s broadcast TV would live on for 60+ years?