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Why is that good filmmakers always want to film shitty bands

Rolling Stones - Fall Out Boy - eh, it's all relative. Maybe we'll luck out and one of the people killed on tape is in the band. Seriously, my mind boggles at this project. Was Scorsese too busy for these guys?

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Forgive my lack of expansion on the subject, but I just... don't know what to say.

Stallone's not as dumb as he seems and has always shown real ambition throughout his career. If he's pushing this as strongly as it seems, he's probably done his research and it might not be half-bad. Couldn't be worse than Staying Alive.

Alternate title = "The Pug and the Pendulum"

Stallone's been trying to get this Poe biopic off the ground for more than 20 years. He seems like the wrong guy for the job, but who knows?

The crucial question is whether or not he's actually going to play Poe. I'm guessing not, but that's because I'm naturally optimistic.

I had read somewhere, and it's posted as a rumor on IMDB, but Stallone wants Viggo Mortensen to play Poe. This has been a dream project for Stallone for years. It's been rumor that he wrote the script in the mid 70's around the time Rocky came out, and that he first sent it to Stanley Kubrick to see if he wanted a crack at directing it. I first heard about Stallone wanting to make the film in the mid 90's when there was talk about him making it with Sean Penn in the lead and Roman Polanski producing it.

Sounds like he's not, if Viggo Mortensen is rumored to be the lead. My guess is that sly's just doing the directing in this one

The idea of Stallone directing a movie about Edgar Allan Poe is the most ridiculous thing I've heard since that guy who did 'Bad Taste' and 'The Frighteners' wanted to adapt Lord Of The Rings

Darth Lavender wrote:The idea of Stallone directing a movie about Edgar Allan Poe is the most ridiculous thing I've heard since that guy who did 'Bad Taste' and 'The Frighteners' wanted to adapt Lord Of The Rings

Or the guy who made kids' kung fu epic The Little Dragons and teen sex comedy Losin' It being allowed to direct L.A. Confidential.

What were the producers thinking?

I don't think this is remotely analogous to Peter Jackson or Curtis Hanson, but that was a nice try. [-X

I got yer Poe right here:

Faux Hulot wrote:I got yer Poe right here:

That would actually be inspired casting, but it'd never happen. Viggo, on the other hand, zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

MichaelB wrote:Or the guy who made kids' kung fu epic The Little Dragons and teen sex comedy Losin' It being allowed to direct L.A. Confidential. What were the producers thinking?

A hack for a hack's job.

Is he going to do Poe first? I know Millennium Films are supposed to finance it as part of their deal with his willingness to do another Rambo, but I was under the impression that the MGM remake of Death Wish was a strong possibility for his next film. I have been praying to the movie gods for a movie as politically confused and hilariously retarded as Cobra (the sequel Marion Cobretti?), but this will do nicely! Thank you, movie gods!

domino harvey wrote:Stallone's not as dumb as he seems and has always shown real ambition throughout his career.

I whole-heartedly agree. He's more intelligent than the vast majority of filmmakers in Hollywood.

Having said that, there's little evidence to substantiate the notion that he's a talented one.

Christian wrote:

domino harvey wrote:Stallone's not as dumb as he seems and has always shown real ambition throughout his career.

I whole-heartedly agree. He's more intelligent than the vast majority of filmmakers in Hollywood.

Having said that, there's little evidence to substantiate the notion that he's a talented one.

I'll buy that.

His direction in Rocky Balboa wasn't terrible, but it definitely has the feel of a generic hack director.

I've always heard that Stallone actually directed most of Cobra (much like Kurt Russell directed the majority of Tombstone), since George P. Cosmatos was credited as the director of Rambo First Blood Part II was that also a Sly-helmed effort?

Whenever I see this thread pop up, I always keep thinking of that Family Guy non-sequitor about I Remember Cecil.

patrick wrote:His direction in Rocky Balboa wasn't terrible, but it definitely has the feel of a generic hack director.

I've heard that he's taken very seriously as a director in certain circles in Europe. A friend once had a conversation with a serious film critic at the Viennale who suggested that it was of great significance that the period between Rocky IV and Rocky Balboa was almost identical in length to that between Days of Heaven and The Thin Red Line.

fred wrote:

patrick wrote:His direction in Rocky Balboa wasn't terrible, but it definitely has the feel of a generic hack director.

I've heard that he's taken very seriously as a director in certain circles in Europe. A friend once had a conversation with a serious film critic at the Viennale who suggested that it was of great significance that the period between Rocky IV and Rocky Balboa was almost identical in length to that between Days of Heaven and The Thin Red Line.

The significance being...they both produced no work in 20 years?

That's a pretty superficial attempt to portray Stallone as a great artist.

Cde. wrote:

fred wrote:

patrick wrote:His direction in Rocky Balboa wasn't terrible, but it definitely has the feel of a generic hack director.

I've heard that he's taken very seriously as a director in certain circles in Europe. A friend once had a conversation with a serious film critic at the Viennale who suggested that it was of great significance that the period between Rocky IV and Rocky Balboa was almost identical in length to that between Days of Heaven and The Thin Red Line.

The significance being...they both produced no work in 20 years?

That's a pretty superficial attempt to portray Stallone as a great artist.

To be fair, Stallone did make the bigger jump in quality.

Cde. wrote:The significance being...they both produced no work in 20 years?

The significance being... this is how America/Hollywood treats it's greatest artists, making it impossible for them to produce new work for such a long time. Not that this is my own view. Of either director.

fred wrote:The significance being: this is how America/Hollywood treats it's greatest artists, making it impossible for them to produce new work for such a long time.

I can't speak for Stallone, but Malick could easily have obtained funding at pretty much any point between Days of Heaven and The Thin Red Line - he was in much the same situation with Paramount that Kubrick was with Warner or Woody Allen with UA/Orion.

His silence was a matter of personal choice, not inability to raise cash.