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Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:28 pm
by markhax
zedz wrote: Also, this might be the right place to dispel the impression that it's all doom and gloom - overall it's rather black, but it can also be funny, absurdist and extremely beautiful.
Agreed! The first time I saw the film I found it great but unremittingly bleak. The humor comes out much more clearly in Krasznahorkai's novel, which will be published in the U.S. in English translation on February 21st.
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:39 pm
by zedz
And part of the absurdist delight comes from the extremity of Tarr's technique. When I saw the film for the first time I couldn't help grinning during the second(?) chapter when I realised that I was essentially watching a feature film that was all about a morbidly obese old man going to buy a bottle of plum brandy. And a really great feature film, at that.
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:49 pm
by Peacock
For god's sake zedz, tell us what you thought of The Turin Horse and where you'd place it compared to his other films; you're teasing us all in these Tarr threads.
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:53 pm
by aox
I've actually read a few reviews on The Turin Horse, and while all of them generally positive, I haven't seen one that acknowledges its place among his other work.
Is he going out with a bang or a whimper?
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:56 pm
by swo17
Definitely a bang. It's as good as anything else he's done. I might call it his best but that could just be because it's the most fresh in my mind. Favorite moment:
Loooooong take where they pack up to leave, disappear from the horizon, and then gradually return.
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:03 pm
by Cold Bishop
zedz wrote:I couldn't help grinning during the second(?) chapter when I realised that I was essentially watching a feature film that was all about a morbidly obese old man going to buy a bottle of plum brandy.
Spoiler alert! Spoiler alert!
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:08 pm
by zedz
Cold Bishop wrote:zedz wrote:I couldn't help grinning during the second(?) chapter when I realised that I was essentially watching a feature film that was all about a morbidly obese old man going to buy a bottle of plum brandy.
Spoiler alert! Spoiler alert!
Ah, but I didn't say whether or not he managed to get the brandy. . .
Peacock wrote:For god's sake zedz, tell us what you thought of The Turin Horse and where you'd place it compared to his other films; you're teasing us all in these Tarr threads.
I talked about it a bit in the 'Best of 2011' thread. It's up there with
Satantango and
Werckmeister Harmonies, and it's one of the greatest films of the century. I don't know if I could bring myself to describe Tarr 'going out with a bang' with this film with a straight face, however. (Swo will know what I mean.)
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:11 pm
by knives
Century and decade don't have that much a difference in this case though.
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:37 pm
by swo17
There isn't much of a difference between anything when the world is over.
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:20 am
by matrixschmatrix
Oh shit someone just blew my mind
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:30 am
by zedz
Have another potato. It's going to be okay.
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:44 am
by John Cope
R. Emmet Sweeney's
interview with Tarr.
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:24 am
by FerdinandGriffon
John Cope wrote:R. Emmet Sweeney's
interview with Tarr.
I'm sorry, but there are several points in this interview where I couldn't help but raise an eyebrow. Damnation not influenced by American film noir? Yeah right! If Tarr wasn't thinking of it (and I am almost certain he was) then Krasznahorkai certainly had it in mind. And this fairytale about Tarr discovering Lars Rudoph when he was a street musician? Rudolph had been in a fairly successful band, yes, but he had also been in numerous other films, including a Hal Hartley and international blockbuster Run Lola Run.
I'm looking forward to The Turin Horse, but I think Tarr could turn down the self-aggrandization a little.
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:56 pm
by fatboyslim142
Michael do you know if its true that he is returing after the current film he's just finnished?
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:33 pm
by MichaelB
He hasn't said anything different since his announcement before the premiere back in February last year.
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:29 am
by JPJ
Tarr and three amigos at Midnight Sun Film Festival(Sodankylä,Finland)
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Guests also included Harriet Andersson and some younger talents.
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:22 pm
by swo17
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:39 pm
by Dadapass
Has anyone here heard of
Music and Literature Magazine? Their
next issue will focus on Béla Tarr and László Krasznahorkai.
Edit: Max Neumann, who has collaborated with Krasznahorkai before, is the third featured artist on the issue.
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:31 am
by tarr3412
Just wrote to the editor of Music & Literature: the Tarr/Krasznahorkai/Neumann issue comes out in April and includes a new essay on Satantango by Jonathan Rosenbaum and another new essay on The Man from London by Sergio Chejfec. Plus a portfolio of photographs taken by Gabor Medvigy taken on-set while shooting Satantango. You can pre-order it through their website or Amazon.
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:05 pm
by Mr Sausage
English translation of a longish (90 page) monograph on Tarr called
Bela Tarr, The Time After is coming out. Read about it
here.
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:12 pm
by GaryC
There are 35mm showings of Sátántangó forthcoming in the UK, from
A nos amours and Scalarama:
Saturday 6 September, ICA, London
Sunday 14 September, Centre for Contemporary Art, Glasgow
Sunday 21 September, Hyde Park Picturehouse, Leeds
Saturday 27 September, Tyneside Cinema, Newcastle
All showings start at 11am.
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:42 am
by perkypat
Fantastic, Tyneside is my local independent, great to see them taking a punt on this.
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:41 pm
by ArchCarrier
Re: Béla Tarr
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:56 pm
by FrauBlucher
Oh how I wished the article said that Criterion will be releasing Werckmeister Harmonies. Sigh.
bagpipes and control
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:11 pm
by Lemmy Caution
I was reading
an article about bagpipes in rock and roll, and came across this quote:
“Listening to music,” observes the French theorist Jacques Attali, “is listening to all noise, realizing that its appropriation and control is a reflection of power, that it is essentially political.”
Which made me think of
Werckmeister Harmonies ...