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Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:52 pm
by captveg
domino harvey wrote:Just continuing the 1939 myth I see
That may be so, but considering the output by the current major studios of titles from the 1930s on Blu-ray I'm cool with any marketing spin that gets any of these vintage films out.
I mean, look at these pathetic numbers of the major rights holders of 30s Hollywood films
Fox - 4
Sony - 1
Universal - 8
Warner - 15
At least we've got a few more from Sony and Universal via Criterion, and Paramount licensing a significant amount of the reduced 30s library they own to Olive.
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:12 pm
by FrauBlucher
EddieLarkin wrote:Why needlessly shove Gone with the Wind in there if you're not going to needlessly shove The Wizard of Oz in too?
So when they do a 1939 anniversary box then they will shove The Wizard of Oz in it.
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:19 pm
by swo17
Conversation overheard at Warner HQ wrote:"So should we put out Wizard of Oz for the eleventh time?"
"No, eleven times would be too many."
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:49 pm
by PfR73
They're also leaving out Goodbye Mr. Chips & Wuthering Heights, and possibly Love Affair (it's public domain, but WB might own the elements?)
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:01 pm
by domino harvey
PfR73 wrote:They're also leaving out Goodbye Mr. Chips & Wuthering Heights, and possibly Love Affair (it's public domain, but WB might own the elements?)
All three better films than
Dark Victory or
Dodge City. But yes captveg, I'm all for releasing
any catalog titles on Blu, even those I don't care for. Just wish WB had given this even a little bit of thought beforehand
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:20 pm
by FrauBlucher
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:02 pm
by felipe
domino harvey wrote:PfR73 wrote:They're also leaving out Goodbye Mr. Chips & Wuthering Heights, and possibly Love Affair (it's public domain, but WB might own the elements?)
All three better films than
Dark Victory or
Dodge City. But yes captveg, I'm all for releasing
any catalog titles on Blu, even those I don't care for. Just wish WB had given this even a little bit of thought beforehand
I'm quite sure they've at least considered releasing these two down the road. These boxsets have always been a mix of bigger titles with lesser-known ones.
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:06 pm
by Ashirg
Wuthering Heights would require a new HD transfer from Samuel Goldwyn cause the disc Warner released in 2012-2013 used the same old transfer from 1997 HBO disc.
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:51 pm
by FrauBlucher
Next weekend the restoration of The Hunchback of Notre Dame gets it's world premier at the TCM film festival. If anyone is going or reads a review, please post.
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:01 pm
by captveg
7/7/15
The Cell (2000)
Virtuosity (1995) (for Paramount)
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:10 pm
by captveg
New(est) street date for Vanilla Sky is 6/30/15. There's actually a formal press release this time, and it will have both the Theatrical Cut and a brand-new Director's Cut with an Alternate Ending.
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:15 pm
by domino harvey
Warners Blu-ray of Empire Records is the original heavily-truncated theatrical cut and not the later "Remix Edition" Warners put out with about half of the cut material edited back in. Guess I'm holding on to that ol' flipper DVD with
Singles on the other side
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:59 am
by captveg
8/4/15
Blast from the Past (1999)
Free Willy (1993)
Innerspace (1987)
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:04 pm
by colinr0380
captveg wrote:New(est) street date for Vanilla Sky is 6/30/15. There's actually a formal press release this time, and it will have both the Theatrical Cut and a brand-new Director's Cut with an Alternate Ending.
I'm wondering whether this might potentially include the shooting spree scene. In the original Spanish film Abre los Ojos, we get a scene of the hero going on a shooting spree killing security guards in the lobby of the building before we move to the roof. That scene doesn't appear in Vanilla Sky, at least as originally released on DVD, though interestingly in the trailer there was a very brief shot of Cruise wielding a gun in the lobby. I can only presume it was decided not to include it at the last moment. Maybe it will turn up in this new edition!
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:06 pm
by criterion10
An early screenshot comparison from the new
Goodfellas remaster.
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:14 am
by criterion10
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:47 pm
by hearthesilence
Robert Harris gave effusive praise.
Going by the screen caps, I want to say they cooled down the palette a hair too much, but it's definitely better than the old palette.
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 3:49 am
by hearthesilence
I'm tempted to buy the reissue of Rio Bravo - most likely the same transfer though.
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 4:17 pm
by captveg
It does have lossless audio now, but being mono I'm not sure if you'd be able to discern much of a difference.
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:30 pm
by FrauBlucher
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:42 am
by manicsounds
Any confirmation about the new Rio Bravo disc?
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:01 am
by swo17
Besides three posts up?
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:56 pm
by FrauBlucher
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:55 am
by manicsounds
swo17 wrote:Besides three posts up?
Considering the disc became available this week and the post above was from a month ago, I thought I'd ask if there was anyone who got the new disc.
Re: Warner Catalog Titles on Blu
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:58 pm
by FrauBlucher
This is what Robert Harris had to say about The Golden Year Boxset.
What a great set!
Everything that I've been hearing is that Warner Home Video is in a huge upward move toward higher quality, and more rational packages of films, when in boxed sets.
This may be one of the final sets to emerge, the concept of which comes from the old, as well as new management team.
To stick to absolute facts, if this set were not all 1939 productions, with 1.37 aspect ratios, there might be problems.
But fortunately, there aren't.
Four extraordinary films, from what is generally recognized as the most critically acclaimed year in American film production, plus a leftover, which I cannot image is not owned by everyone interested in film, now relegated to being on the lower half of the bill.
The four films are:
Dark Victory (WB), directed by Edmund Goulding, with Bette Davis, George Brent, Humphrey Bogart, Geraldine Fitzgerald and Ronald Reagan;
Dodge City (WB), directed by Michael Curtiz, with Errol Flynn, Olivia de Havilland, Ann Sheridan and Bruce Cabot;
The Hunchback of Notre Dame (RKO), directed William Dieterle, with Charles Laughton, Cedric Hardwicke, Thomas Mitchell, Maureen O'Hara and Edmond O'Brien, and;
Ninotchka (M-G-M), directed by Ernst Lubitsch, with Greta Garbo, Melvyn Douglas, Ina Claire, Bela Lugosi, and Sig Ruman.
Technically, for this set, they differ in several ways.
The images of all but Ninotchka are harvested from original camera negatives, as that single production was lost in a fire.
The scan used is derived from a very high quality fine grain master.
Dodge City is derived from an IP, produced from the original camera negatives. While a set away from Warner's ubiquitous Ultra-rez process of recombine, the IP was beautifully made, and represents the original colors and textures of the film beautifully.
Dark Victory and Hunchback are original nitrate negative harvests.
Here's where it gets interesting, and might have been problematic.
Beyond that fifth film, Hunchback is the only title to be released on a BD-50. Dodge City was set to be on a 50, but didn't make it in transition.
I bring up the BD-25 vs. BD-50 question, as inquiring minds will want to know, but beyond that simple point of reference, it makes very little difference in the final product, unless you begin to dissect the imagery, and do a grain comparison.
One of the things that I'm hearing about the new way things are being done at WB, is that BD-25s can be used for reproduction -- there is a small cost savings -- but only if the average data rate is a minimum of 30 kbs.
Dark Victory, Dodge City and Ninotchka don't make that number.
Since Ninotchka is off a fine grain, we'd probably see little difference. But William Daniels cinematography still shines.
Dark Victory is a magnificent looking film, shot by Ernest Haller, with rich, nitrate-like blacks, extraordinary shadow detail, and an overall luster that shines on the screen.
Dodge City jumps toward you, with brilliant hues of true Technicolor, gorgeous blacks, and the requisite shadow detail to go with them. Flesh tones are absolutely perfect. Sol Polito's work comes to the fore in brilliant color.
Since Hunchback is the one on the 50, you'll get a bit more crispness to the grain structure, and Joseph August's work behind the camera will at times look otherworldly. His work on Hunchback, reminds me in several ways of the way he handled imagery on Selznick's Portrait of Jennie (1948), his final film.
The bottom line is simple. Things are changes for the better at WB. We're getting down to the last of those strange boxed sets, mixing and matching films new to Blu-ray with those already in release. What that means to the consumer, is that you won't be forced to re-purchase titles you already have, in order to obtain new releases.
Quality will continue to rise, as the last of the releases on BD-25s, which make little difference for 1.37 films, but can make a huge difference for color productions in 1.78.
Dark Victory...
Image - 4.75
Audio - 5
Pass / Fail - Pass
Dodge City...
Image - 4.25
Audio - 5
Pass / Fail - Pass
Ninotchka...
Image - 4.25
Audio - 5
Pass / Fail - Pass
The Hunchback of Notre Dame...
Image - 5
Audio - 5
Pass / Fail - Pass
As an extra you'll find a documentary on the films of 1939. Not just those in this package, but the entire industry. It's a worthwhile, high quality extra, that runs 68 minutes.
The street price of The Golden Year is just over $50, which is a bargain. $12.50 per film, with a free documentary, and a fifth film that you can give to an indigent friend.
This is what home video on Blu-ray is all about, and for those potentially waiting for 4k, this is not a series of films that will be affected in any major way by the higher resolution.
Very Highly Recommended
RAH
I wasn't aware that there is a new management team running WHV. That explains Warner going deep into the vaults for upgrades, as well as licensing out titles. I thought new folks needed to get in there to make things happen. \:D/