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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:10 pm
by Antoine Doinel
Why do these people willingly watch films that are morally reprehensible to their central beliefs? Are they really that naive, or do these reviewers secretly get off on writing down descriptions on everything that is naughty about the films? (I'm guessing the latter).
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:20 pm
by MichaelB
The all-time classic C(r)apalert review is the one for
South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut.
The whole thing is
here, but this is a taster:
Angels were portrayed as females - nude, very nude. God was called many vulgar and hateful names. Satan was glorified. Jesus was equated with sexual anatomy. A child was graphically incinerated by igniting his flatulence, then another kid tried to beat out the flames with a stick and was concerned about the stick catching fire. Body parts dripping with blood were ripped from a child by a surgeon who expressed shallow concern. The dead child was then seen with an exploded chest. The dead child, after being rejected from Heaven (by nude female angels) and cast into Hell (which is a violation of Scripture in and of itself), was then presented as a ghost trying to influence the other kids. An all-male chorus line wore pink bikini briefs. Homosexual acts were described.
I thought long and hard (fnarr) about leaving that last bit in, but I thought it was important to underline just how truly depraved this film is.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:24 pm
by kaujot
My God, who could watch such a film?
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:29 pm
by MichaelB
kaujot wrote:My God, who could watch such a film?
Well, you'll end up mentally scarred, that's for sure. According to Mr Capalert:
And you cannot imagine the depths of the influence of this sort of entertainment! In the months that followed our posting of this analysis report we received thousands of emails from adolescents who have seen this movie and spoke just like it. With the same or more severe level of contempt for wholesome and righteous ethics. I would post examples of their email here but most of them would look like "You --- ---, ---. You are a --- and a ---. Go --- ---. And see who cares about your --- ---, you --- --- sorry --- --- --- ---. --- my ---. And Satan's, too, you --- uncle ---- donkey ---." Just like South "Puke": BLU. And some people actually believe movies do not influence kids.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:33 pm
by kaujot
MichaelB wrote:kaujot wrote:My God, who could watch such a film?
Well, you'll end up mentally scarred, that's for sure. According to Mr Capalert:
And you cannot imagine the depths of the influence of this sort of entertainment! In the months that followed our posting of this analysis report we received thousands of emails from adolescents who have seen this movie and spoke just like it. With the same or more severe level of contempt for wholesome and righteous ethics. I would post examples of their email here but most of them would look like "You --- ---, ---. You are a --- and a ---. Go --- ---. And see who cares about your --- ---, you --- --- sorry --- --- --- ---. --- my ---. And Satan's, too, you --- uncle ---- donkey ---." Just like South "Puke": BLU. And some people actually believe movies do not influence kids.
Reading his
review has mentally scarred me.
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:24 am
by fiddlesticks
Antoine Doinel wrote:Why do these people willingly watch films that are morally reprehensible to their central beliefs? Are they really that naive, or do these reviewers secretly get off on writing down descriptions on everything that is naughty about the films? (I'm guessing the latter).
Wasn't there a line in
Porky's where a righteous school board member declares "I saw every vile, disgusting frame of this film---twice!"
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:30 am
by Mr Sausage
MichaelB wrote:The all-time classic C(r)apalert review is the one for
South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut.
The whole thing is
here, but this is a taster:
Angels were portrayed as females - nude, very nude. God was called many vulgar and hateful names. Satan was glorified. Jesus was equated with sexual anatomy. A child was graphically incinerated by igniting his flatulence, then another kid tried to beat out the flames with a stick and was concerned about the stick catching fire. Body parts dripping with blood were ripped from a child by a surgeon who expressed shallow concern. The dead child was then seen with an exploded chest. The dead child, after being rejected from Heaven (by nude female angels) and cast into Hell (which is a violation of Scripture in and of itself), was then presented as a ghost trying to influence the other kids. An all-male chorus line wore pink bikini briefs. Homosexual acts were described.
I thought long and hard (fnarr) about leaving that last bit in, but I thought it was important to underline just how truly depraved this film is.
List of atrocities:
"A child was graphically incinerated by igniting his flatulence," and "The dead child was then seen with an exploded chest," and "Jesus was equated with sexual anatomy." But worst of all: "An all-male chorus line wore pink bikini briefs." How dare they.
colin wrote:Take this section from the review of the lacklustre
Matrix Revolutions:
Sexual Immorality (S)
- dressing to maximize the female form and/or skin exposure
- two women arm in arm (more than friends) going to a "party" with other gay/lesbian presences
- a woman massaging the breasts of another woman
- men showing intimate affection to each other
- upper female nudity
- excessive breast exposure, repeatedly
- open face kissing
How did I miss this when I last saw the film?!
I don't remember any of this stuff, and I'm pretty sure I would. This guy must have been watching very, very closely. It never ceases to amuse me when people are deeply offended by a movie, but nevertheless sit there and diligently record every offense with hawk-like precision.
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:58 am
by Antoine Doinel
Mr_sausage wrote:colin wrote:Take this section from the review of the lacklustre
Matrix Revolutions:
Sexual Immorality (S)
- dressing to maximize the female form and/or skin exposure
- two women arm in arm (more than friends) going to a "party" with other gay/lesbian presences
- a woman massaging the breasts of another woman
- men showing intimate affection to each other
- upper female nudity
- excessive breast exposure, repeatedly
- open face kissing
How did I miss this when I last saw the film?!
I don't remember any of this stuff, and I'm pretty sure I would. This guy must have been watching very, very closely. It never ceases to amuse me when people are deeply offended by a movie, but nevertheless sit there and diligently record every offense with hawk-like precision.
As to "excessive breast exposure", he's probably talking about this:
I think Bellucci was hired for her breasts alone as, I think in both sequels (I actually forgot she was in both) I think she has maybe one line of dialogue and just enough screen time to be hypnotized (or offended) by her, uh, assets.
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:11 am
by fiddlesticks
Also, her head is shamelessly uncovered, which doubtless accounts for the complaints about "upper female nudity."
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:58 am
by colinr0380
Here's the one for The Matrix Reloaded, the film I can understand the 'open face kissing' objections of the most, since there's the kissing challenge Bellucci proposes! Though I have to admit simply feeling very jealous of Mr Reeves rather than finding it morally objectionable (though that does mean the film pushed me towards committing a sin!

)
Sex/Homosexuality (S)
- cohabitation
- excessive cleavage and breast exposure, repeatedly
- open face kissing
- intercourse with nudity with replays
- vulgar dancing with upper female nudity, repeatedly
- ghosting of female anatomy through clothing
- after sex conversation while nude
- vulgar imagery
- woman in men's room
Ah, so many wonderful memories! Even if many of those moments come from the embarrassing dance sequence!
The only non-Left Behind film I've found the site recommending so far is
Who Gets The House.
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:53 pm
by swo17
Well, I do find ghosting morally objectionable.
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:07 pm
by MichaelB
colinr0380 wrote:The only non-Left Behind film I've found the site recommending so far is
Who Gets The House.
He's a fan of Mary Poppins, too.
As for
Who Gets The House, I sought a second opinion and found it here:
DM Kilgore wrote:Okay, let me get this straight: an 11-year-old child, who is neither a lawyer nor a member of the family, approaches a judge with a totally bogus "legal document" asking that a family's house should be taken away from the legal owners and given to their pre-teen children. The judge obligingly approves this homemade "court order" despite the fact that no divorce papers have been filed and the parents are not even separated yet. The pre-teen kids then brazenly inform the parents that they have to take turns living in the house, Dad this week and Mom the next. The parents, being utter morons, obligingly accept this decree and move out without even consulting a lawyer. Makes perfect sense, doesn't it? No, it doesn't. This movie is pure gibberish, and so squeaky-clean you want to slap the characters. Good for an incredulous laugh, but that's about it.
There's an even less enthusiastic review
here.
Now, I haven't seen the film, and hate to prejudge it, but gut instinct tells me which is likely to be a more accurate take on it!
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:52 pm
by Michael Kerpan
Sounds like Who Gets the House is the polar opposite from Shinji Somai's brilliant film about a child resisting (and the becoming reconciled) to her parents getting divorced. Ohikkoshi (Moving) is as genuinely (and intelligently) "wholesome" as one can possibly imagine -- and has never been acquired for US distribution (ah, it's only been 15 years since it was made).
For the curious,
some screen shots (etc.)
If there has EVER been a better film about children and divorce, I've never heard of it.
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:26 pm
by Steven H
CAP has been a source of limitless comedy for years. A little snarkiness about their views on Indiana Jones and the KOCS
came up not too long ago around here.
I consider comments like "semi-thong nudity, many" and "attention to crotch, twice" the apex of film criticism.
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:22 am
by luridedith
Truly beautiful and inspiring collection of film poster art from Poland unsurprisingly provokes moronic comments from blog readers who "know better":
jkillah1 wrote:I didn’t like most of these… they were to dull! Kind of depressing, actually.
There were a few I liked, but most of them just looked like something from an old magazine from the 80’s!
Bukator wrote:Are u ppl blind? These are garbage. It looks like they were drawn with pencil crayons and markers by a ten year old. We live in a world of photoshop now. These poters look to be drawn in Microsoft Paint. Get with the times man. I like vintage design just as much as anyone else but these are just terrible excuses for art. Very lazy designs here that seem to be whipped up in minutes by whoever created them. If this is what it looks like throughout Poland, then they are missing out big time.
jkillah1 wrote:Many of you may call these “art”, but maybe you are just giving them too much credit because they are old. To me, they just remind me of all those dirty, boring, drab things from decades ago. Like watching TV shows from the early 90’s.
I love good art, and don’t get me wrong. The modern hollywood posters are not that great, but at least they have some vibrant color!
Nowadays, all that these posters would do is depress people and make them think that the films were boring! I’m surprised that so many people like these. It just gives me a sinking feeling in my gut. Uggh!
abcd wrote:pretty depressing lot. some frustrated soul working on them. didnt like any. morose and not really communicative.
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:45 am
by Musashi219
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:41 pm
by Tolmides
What exactly is the message here? Society sucks? Poverty is inescapable? Don't respond to stealing with more stealing? Or, at least, never try to lift someone else's bike when 10,000 people are ready to spring upon you from every doorway and stop you? The truth is, I can't figure out the movie's message. Nor can I relate much to the depths of poverty shown here - can the guy really not afford to buy another bicycle, or borrow one, or *something*? Or must his whole life be an endless tale of frustration and woe?
From one of those lovely
IMDb reviews
Don't know why Antonio didn't think of that. All that time he was wasting searching and stealing bikes...when he could have simply bought another one!
There are a couple of other gems to be found in the IMDb hate section, including the necessary rant against foreign films and the liberal elite:
This is another one of those "Top 100 Films" (or top 250, whatever) that is very overrated and will always be overrated because critics don't have the guts to ever change their lifelong opinions of anything, or go against their peers. In other words, it's the "thing to do," meaning rate some films higher than they deserve. It's almost an elitist-type of attitude among critics. Maybe it makes them feel smart. It's always been "in," too, among North American critics to overrate these European films. That, too, somehow makes this Liberal morons feel intelligent. They do this with Kurosawa, Bergman, Tarkovsky, Truffaut and others. In this case, it's director Vittorio De Sica.
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:33 am
by colinr0380
Since we've poked fun at the Capalert site, perhaps a move to the other end of the spectrum would even things up! The
Insultingly Stupid Movie Physics site is wonderful with deserved howls of anguish at the disregard for logic in
The Core and
Armageddon, though (strangely in a similar manner to Capalert) there does sometimes seem a certain humourless rigid holding to rules at the expense of being caught up with an artistic mood or in the moment the film is creating, however outlandish. For example in this comment on the King Kong remake:
As for the death scene, at an estimated weight of over 16 tons it's unlikely that King Kong could leap in the air, smack an aircraft, and land back atop the Empire State Building as depicted without doing major structural damage both to the ape and the building. The gigantic ape was repeatedly raked with .30 cal machine guns fired from biplanes. Given the size of the beast , he would most likely have died slowly from blood loss, yet little blood was shown. When he fell, Kong's gravity to air resistance force ratio would be about 3 times that of a human sky diver. A human jumper would hit the sidewalk at a terminal velocity of around 120 mph (193kph). Kong's terminal velocity would be about 3 times higher but he would never reach it. Even without air resistance the maximum velocity of a fall from the top of the Empire State Building would only be 193 mph (311 kph). Kong would hit the sidewalk with the explosive power of between 10 and 27 lbs of TNT. Ape parts and blood would be splattered all over.
The area covered in splattered ape with bystanders covered in gore might not be best conducive to a romantically tragic ending, no matter how appropriate to physics it may be!
(EDIT: Though of course Jackson came close with Braindead!)
Though the physics site does score lots of brownie points for acknowledging films with bad physics but with artistic merit (and recommending The Core as a film with physics so loopy it has to be seen to be believed!)
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:37 am
by fiddlesticks
As for the death scene, at an estimated weight of over 16 tons it's unlikely that King Kong could leap in the air, smack an aircraft, and land back atop the Empire State Building as depicted without doing major structural damage both to the ape and the building. The gigantic ape was repeatedly raked with .30 cal machine guns fired from biplanes. Given the size of the beast , he would most likely have died slowly from blood loss, yet little blood was shown. When he fell, Kong's gravity to air resistance force ratio would be about 3 times that of a human sky diver. A human jumper would hit the sidewalk at a terminal velocity of around 120 mph (193kph). Kong's terminal velocity would be about 3 times higher but he would never reach it. Even without air resistance the maximum velocity of a fall from the top of the Empire State Building would only be 193 mph (311 kph). Kong would hit the sidewalk with the explosive power of between 10 and 27 lbs of TNT. Ape parts and blood would be splattered all over.
I've never seen any of the Kong remakes, but I'd stand in line to see this one!
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:07 am
by swo17
I could pick plenty of the blurbs from Empire's recent list of the
top 500 films of all time, which is alternately admirable and infuriating, but I found this one particularly rediculous, for
Citizen Kane at #28:
It may come as a jolt to film historians that Welles’ hallowed classic, so embalmed as the ‘Greatest Film Ever Made’, has only just squeezed into the top 30. Has time finally caught up with it? While Welles’ achievement is never in doubt, it remains a film that appeals more to the academic and critic than the film fan, partly because of its reputation. Talked of with hushed voices and nodding heads by wise arbiters of film, for the non-acolyte it can feel like an enigma — a whopping cathedral of a movie, awe-inspiring, but too vast and ornate to love. If the list embodies only technical prowess and thematic power then its demotion is a shock, but is it a friend for life? A comfort? On current showing, perhaps not.
So yeah, um, just because you let a bunch of monkeys and fanboys water down your list, this is supposed to signify some sort of paradigm shift amongst people who actually know what they're talking about? Yeesh.

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:12 am
by domino harvey
Donnie Darko is five places ahead of His Girl Friday. Why is every list so awful
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:36 am
by cdnchris
The fact Saw is even on that list makes it useless. Ernest Goes to Jail is more fitting for a top 500 than that turd.
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:51 am
by domino harvey
Not to get into this, but Ernest Goes to Jail is the best Ernest movie...
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:01 am
by cdnchris
domino harvey wrote:Not to get into this, but Ernest Goes to Jail is the best Ernest movie...
No argument from me.
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:24 am
by Gregory
Don't tell me you guys have seen all nine Ernest movies (yes, I just looked that up).