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Lee Daniels' The Butler (Ibid, 2013)

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 1:06 am
by Professor Wagstaff
Lee Daniels' The Butler.

Re: Trailers for Upcoming Films

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 2:23 am
by wigwam
It's gonna be great. He's Almodovar as soul brutha.

Re: Trailers for Upcoming Films

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 2:29 am
by mfunk9786
FYI, his name is Lee Daniels.

Re: Trailers for Upcoming Films

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 2:37 am
by Professor Wagstaff
Whoops, misplaced apostrophe. Fixed.

Re: Trailers for Upcoming Films

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 1:17 am
by knives
Professor Wagstaff wrote:Lee Daniels' The Butler.
So I guess Ford and Carter never existed?

Re: The Butler (Lee Daniels, 2013)

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 1:37 am
by domino harvey
Finally, a "Let's tiptoe through modern history" ala Forest Gump for black people (or, more likely, those afflicted with white guilt). This looks comically awful and thus deserves a dedicated thread for future derision

Re: The Butler (Lee Daniels, 2013)

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 1:47 am
by The Narrator Returns
And some of those casting choices are, um, interesting. Robin Williams as Ike Eisenhower? John Cusack as Richard Nixon?

Re: The Butler (Lee Daniels, 2013)

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 1:55 am
by knives
John Cusack is the least of this film's worries.

Re: The Butler (Lee Daniels, 2013)

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 2:10 am
by flyonthewall2983
I'd like to just see Alan Rickman as Reagan and no Oprah sex scenes, please.

Re: The Butler (Lee Daniels, 2013)

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 2:14 am
by knives
This is a Lee Daniels film so there won't be an Oprah sex scene. Now a rape scene is an entirely different set of conditions.

Re: The Butler (Lee Daniels, 2013)

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 2:41 am
by Mr Sausage
The Butler is the heart-warming story of a man who goes from serving rich white people to serving even richer white people.

Re: The Butler (Lee Daniels, 2013)

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:48 am
by bdsweeney
What's the bet there's a scene where the butler views from a hidden distance an indiscretion between JFK and one of his lovers.

Re: The Butler (Lee Daniels, 2013)

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 5:05 am
by flyonthewall2983
One of his lovers=Marilyn Monroe, you're on.

Re: The Butler (Lee Daniels, 2013)

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 5:35 am
by Kirkinson
There's no one in the credits list playing Marilyn Monroe, but there is someone playing Barack Obama, so I can pretty much guess the kind of triumphantly weepy denouement we're going to see ("You did it, America! Good for you!" as either the Butler or his son sheds a single happy tear while watching the inauguration on TV). Fun fact: the actor playing Obama has previously been Forest Whitaker's stand-in.

And yeah, this movie has one of the weirdest casts ever.

EDIT: Actually, the real Eugene Allen was invited to and attended Obama's inauguration, so it's a natural place to end the story. I take back half of my snark (I'm sure the scene as played will still be terrible).

Re: The Butler (Lee Daniels, 2013)

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 5:46 am
by warren oates
Is it wrong that I really want to watch this now? The trailer alone made me laugh more than most on-purpose comedies.

Re: The Butler (Lee Daniels, 2013)

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:23 am
by Dylan
What interests me most about this film is that it has a Quincy Jones score. His dramatic scores are always gorgeous, so I look forward to hearing what he came up with for such a weepy-looking film.

Re: The Butler (Lee Daniels, 2013)

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:07 pm
by Dylan
Quincy Jones on his "involvement" (from this May, 2013 interview):
“They’re maniacs,” Q says of the filmmakers, who’ve been bruiting his name about. “I told them, ‘Don’t say it until we understand each other.’ 
I guess the filmmakers better figure this out if the film is sticking to the August release date.

Re: The Butler (Lee Daniels, 2013)

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:15 am
by Professor Wagstaff

Re: The What Rhymes With Butler? (Lee Daniels, 2013)

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:33 pm
by Matt
This is so insane. You can neither trademark nor copyright titles. Leave it to Hollywood to set up a voluntary, binding arbitration process for "rights" that have no legal basis.

I Was a Teenage Butler
The Things I Saw When I Was a White House Butler
Butle-what? Butle-who?

Re: The What Rhymes With Butler? (Lee Daniels, 2013)

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:32 pm
by solaris72
Matt wrote:This is so insane. You can neither trademark nor copyright titles. Leave it to Hollywood to set up a voluntary, binding arbitration process for "rights" that have no legal basis.
Yeah, plus 1916 puts the short comfortably in the public domain!

Re: The What Rhymes With Butler? (Lee Daniels, 2013)

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:40 pm
by FakeBonanza
Matt wrote:This is so insane. You can neither trademark nor copyright titles. Leave it to Hollywood to set up a voluntary, binding arbitration process for "rights" that have no legal basis.
Apparently this is in response to TWC's attempt to prevent Warner from using a title similar (but not identical) to that of one of their films. It's no less absurd, but it serves the Weinsteins right.

Re: The What Rhymes With Butler? (Lee Daniels, 2013)

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:42 pm
by warren oates
Matt wrote:This is so insane. You can neither trademark nor copyright titles. Leave it to Hollywood to set up a voluntary, binding arbitration process for "rights" that have no legal basis.
This isn't about trying to corner the market on naming. It's about the biggest companies in the business injecting some sanity and comity into their bazillion dollar marketing slates. No studio wants to spend 100 million trying to advertise a movie -- to get the public's attention and differentiate their product -- only to have some other company release a similar sounding or identically titled thing a few weeks or months before. That's why it generally makes sense for MPAA signatories to agree to the voluntary title registry for all of their upcoming releases. The whole point of this arbitration system is that these disagreements are usually ones that can be settled by a little common sense horse trading. It should embarrass everyone involved, especially the MPAA, that it's come to this. Both companies in this instance seem to be abusing the system out of pettiness and should be called on it.

You can't copyright titles, but you can trademark ones that are famous enough. Good luck publishing that new volume of experimental poetry entitled Star Wars.

Re: The What Rhymes With Butler? (Lee Daniels, 2013)

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:06 pm
by Brian C
warren oates wrote:You can't copyright titles, but you can trademark ones that are famous enough. Good luck publishing that new volume of experimental poetry entitled Star Wars.
"Oh Star Wars,
Nothing but Star Wars,
Give me those Star Wars,
Don't let them end.
Oh Star Wars,
If they should bar wars,
Please let these Star Wars
Stay.
And hey, how 'bout that nutty Star Wars bar,
Can you forget all the creatures in there?
And hey, Darth Vader in his black and evil mask,
Did he scare you as much as he scared me?
Oh Star Wars,
Those near and far wars,
Star Wars!"

-Nick Winters

Re: The What Rhymes With Butler? (Lee Daniels, 2013)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:34 pm
by lacritfan
One of these days when I see "Lee Daniels" my first thought won't be "Linklater's DP directed a movie?"
They didn't even try to make Cusack look like Nixon, Alan Rickman as Reagan looks like it might be hoot.
Better poster.

Re: The What Rhymes With Butler? (Lee Daniels, 2013)

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:40 pm
by Finch