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TCM Vault: The Lady From Shanghai
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:39 am
by Kauno
Without subtitles, I assume(?)
Re: Columbia Classics
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:32 am
by FrauBlucher
Did Criterion seriously not want this?
Re: Columbia Classics
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:38 am
by Minkin
FrauBlucher wrote:
Did Criterion seriously not want this?
Clearly Sony wanted the film to have the prestige that only TCM can bring to a release.
What a load of shit. Well, at least it didn't end up at Twilight Time.
Re: Columbia Classics
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:57 am
by Drucker
Apparently it loses the Bogdanovich commentary and adds one by Eddie Muller.
Re: Columbia Classics
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:23 pm
by EddieLarkin
Minkin wrote:Well, at least it didn't end up at Twilight Time.
Yup, I'm sure going to enjoy buying this for $55 from TCM (and maybe customs fees on top? make it $80). From SAE and evil old Twilight Time this would have cost me $40 with a guarantee of no customs fees.
Hoping and praying for a UK release from Sony instead.
Re: Columbia Classics
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:27 pm
by Matt
These TCM Vault Collection titles are not TCM Shop exclusives. They might be for a short time, but you should be able to get them from Amazon eventually.
Re: Columbia Classics
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:36 pm
by EddieLarkin
I don't see any of the Vault titles through Amazon themselves, only third party sellers. Some are even more expensive than the TCM prices. But Iron Petticoat is pretty cheap so hopefully the same guys will offer Lady from Shanghai as well.
Re: Columbia Classics
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:48 pm
by Feego
You can usually get these Vault titles from Movies Unlimited, but I have no idea what their overseas rates are.
Re: TCM Vault Collection
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:09 pm
by chatterjees
What does it mean by "Digital Bonus Features on the DVD Include:"? I am highly confused by this heading. So there are no extra features on BD? The extra features on the DVD are "digital" downloads or something? Does anybody has a better idea?
Re: TCM Vault Collection
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:12 pm
by Roger Ryan
What's up with the bonus features being relegated to the DVD only?* I'm a little surprised that a new 4K restoration is coming out as a TCM Vault Collection release, but happy to have it.
*I see we posted at the same time. I didn't even notice the word "digital" in front of "bonus features". Hmm.
Re: TCM Vault Collection
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:23 pm
by domino harvey
I think that's TCM's default heading-- the same thing is in the Iron Petticoat listing, which was also Blu-ray/DVD combo. Worth noting that release had unadvertised english subtitles, so those complaining should at least wait to see if that's the case here again
Re: Columbia Classics
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:38 am
by FrauBlucher
It sounds disappointing (a DVD case, wtf!).
beaver
Re: Columbia Classics
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:55 am
by Minkin
FrauBlucher wrote:It sounds disappointing (a DVD case, wtf!).
beaver
Jeeze. Either TCM seriously screwed this one up, or they send the world's worst screeners.
-Single Layered
-VC-1 encode
-lossy audio
-no subtitles
-The advertised Eddie Muller commentary has become the old Bogdanovich commentary
I hope TCM only got this as part of some backroom deal, and Criterion will do the title justice in a year or two.
Re: Columbia Classics
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:00 am
by What A Disgrace
I know what I'm not asking for on my birthday.
Re: Columbia Classics
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:02 am
by captveg
Not saying one can't be disappointed with those aspects, but many of them are not too big of deal to me in principle.
- I have many BD25 releases that are just fine
- Same goes for VC1
- 1.0 Mono right? Is lossless anything more than a placebo effect?
- No subs is to be expected for most specialty label releases these days (though it does stink for anyone who is hard of hearing)
- I'd rather have BD packaging, but I've dealt with DVD sized packaging before (Apocalypse Now box w/ Heart of Darkness) Was Iron Petticoat a DVD case?
Ultimately does it look and sound good? Tech specs aside this is the real line I draw.
Re: Columbia Classics
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:10 am
by domino harvey
Firstly, (and I know these are not big deals - alone) the package is a standard Keep case (as in DVD-standard sized.)
Re: Columbia Classics
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:13 am
by chatterjees
domino harvey wrote:Firstly, (and I know these are not big deals - alone) the package is a standard Keep case (as in DVD-standard sized.)
Thanks. I just found that in Gary's review. Who does that these days? I already have a perfect DVD with subtitle. How can I cancel my order?

Re: Columbia Classics
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:15 am
by domino harvey
You mean you don't want to update for an internet podcast that's on the Blu-ray for some reason?
Re: TCM Vault Collection
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:24 am
by chatterjees
domino harvey wrote:You mean you don't want to update for an internet podcast that's on the Blu-ray for some reason?
Will you? I am not really a big fan of this film or Mr. Welles. As I previously mentioned, I already own a DVD, which looks great. I just sent TCM an email, hope they will cancel the order.
Re: TCM Vault Collection
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:26 am
by domino harvey
I forgot my [/sarcasm] tags! I'll probably pick it up eventually but this went from a surprisingly stacked release for TCM to underwhelming in a hurry
Re: Columbia Classics
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:34 am
by fdm
captveg wrote:- 1.0 Mono right? Is lossy anything more than a placebo effect?
If you have to ask, you'll never know.
Re: TCM Vault Collection
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:47 am
by captveg
fdm wrote:captveg wrote:- 1.0 Mono right? Is lossy anything more than a placebo effect?
If you have to ask, you'll never know.
I'm talking in regards to 1.0 Mono specifically (and I did mean to say lossless before in that statement, so I fixed that).
I've never heard a significant difference when doing A/B comparisons on lossy/lossless 1.0 Mono tracks. In other words, for me this is not a deal breaker. Your miles will likely vary.
Stereo tracks are a different matter entirely.
Re: TCM Vault Collection
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:50 am
by manicsounds
Considering the hype that Sony prepped a 4K master and that Bogdanovich's terrible impersonations of Welles would be gone, very disappointing.
Hopefully Sony International may put out a better release.
Re: TCM Vault Collection
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:41 am
by captveg
Sometimes I wish all the tech info was blocked on these discs so people would be forced to watch the movie and judge it on that rather than on codecs, file sizes and bitrate numbers....
Re: TCM Vault Collection
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:17 pm
by Michael Kerpan
captveg wrote:Sometimes I wish all the tech info was blocked on these discs so people would be forced to watch the movie and judge it on that rather than on codecs, file sizes and bitrate numbers....
Looking at the screen captures (and ignoring the specs), I see no reason to "upgrade" (having a mere 50" plasma).