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The Disappearance(s) of Eleanor Rigby (Ned Bensom, 2014)

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:51 pm
by domino harvey
The Weinstens are really out of sorts now. First they recut the two films, the Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby: Him and the Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby: Her, into one film, the Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby: Them. And that's what premiered at Cannes and is getting released next month as just the Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby. Now they're also going to release the film as a three hour the Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby: Him/Her in "select theaters" in October. More details here.

When's the last time a Weinstein-butchered film even made money? All the ones they really mess with lately get dumped to VOD/limited release anyways

Re: The Disappearance(s) of Eleanor Rigby (Ned Bensom, 2014)

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:02 pm
by knives
Probably The King's Speech though that fucking around came after release.

Re: The Disappearance(s) of Eleanor Rigby (Ned Bensom, 2014)

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:10 am
by domino harvey
Good news!
Anchor Bay Entertainment and The Weinstein Company are proud to announce the home entertainment release of Ned Benson’s emotionally thrilling film, THE DISAPPEARANCE OF ELEANOR RIGBY. Audiences can own this inspired example of “groundbreaking cinema” (Sasha Stone, Awards Daily) on digital download on January 23, 2015 before heading to DVD, Blu-Ray™ and On Demand February 3, 2015. Both the DVD and Blu-Ray™ include bonus films, THE DISAPPEARANCE OF ELEANOR RIGBY: HIM and THE DISAPPEARANCE OF ELEANOR RIGBY: HER, giving the consumer the complete picture of the story as it was intended to be seen.

Re: The Disappearance(s) of Eleanor Rigby (Ned Bensom, 2014)

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:15 pm
by PfR73
Blu-ray.com reports that Him & Her are 1080p, but have only been given lossy audio :|

Re: The Disappearance(s) of Eleanor Rigby (Ned Bensom, 2014)

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:35 am
by TMDaines
I've got no idea how these are eventually going to show up in UK cinemas, so I may as well go ahead and watch Him and Her when I feel like it.

Two questions:
  • Are you supposed to watch Him and then Her in that order? Or does it not matter?
  • Is there any real truth to Them being an intended third part/version - or is everyone in agreement that it was merely a concession to the money men?

Re: The Disappearance(s) of Eleanor Rigby (Ned Bensom, 2014)

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:31 pm
by kuzine
No idea how it is intended but these are currently being shown in theatres here (Belgium) as a double bill with him first, then her.

Re: The Disappearance(s) of Eleanor Rigby (Ned Bensom, 2014)

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:35 pm
by adavis53
I caught the Them version at a Q&A with Jessica Chastain and James McAvoy and they both expressed consistent regrets that we had seen the truncated, edited down version, and not the full-length two parter that Bensom intended, which they both also asserted was far better. But either way, Them is definitely not a third part or any continuation and if you have an option I recommend not seeing that one (I can't speak to the quality of Him & Her, though).

Re: The Disappearance(s) of Eleanor Rigby (Ned Bensom, 2014)

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:55 pm
by domino harvey
Having finally seen both parts, I can confirm these films need to be seen in the order traditionally screened, with Him first followed by Her.

I thought the overall experience was an interesting experiment, one that didn't fall too heavily on what could quickly become a simplistic he said / she said gimmick in execution. Him charts a blindside breakup from James McAvoy's perspective as the dumped, struggling to get questions and acclimate himself to the reality that it's over. Then Her, perversely, acts as a form of reluctant wish fulfillment on the part of anyone who's ever been dumped, in that it gives us the answers to our ex's irrational behaviors and explains why they did what they did. Only there's no satisfaction in the totality of information offered because on a basic level, the impetuses behind the act of cutting things off are as much a mystery to Jessica Chastain's character as they are to McAvoy. We want answers and closure in a breakup, but is it better or worse to realize so does the person who initiated it? The possible answers lobbed about here, including most prominently a dead child, would be the easy and obvious answers in a less realistic film. These movies however take a more level, if somewhat frustrating stance: sometimes a relationship dies and it is just over, and yet we find ourselves drawn to this other person still, whether or not it's fair to ourselves or them. It's part of what makes the end of the first film so wonderful
Spoiler
as McAvoy being stalked by Chastain through his early evening walk is a smart metaphor for the inescapable nature of some relationships in our psyche ("the one that got away"), even when things seem to be better and we've ostensibly "moved on," the memory of them follows us.
There are a handful of scenes shared between the two films, with most playing out in slightly altered fashion from one another, indicating a change in either perspective or memory, but this isn't the focal point of the film's methodology. Rather, the film presents two sides of a breakup, neither particularly able to stand on its own (Unexpectedly of the two, Him functions okay as a stand-alone, but Her would make no real sense apart or before Him. This could be read as purposeful in that ultimately the actions of McAvoy make more concrete and conventional narrative sense, something already reflected in how he handled earlier crises in the film) but together forming an intriguing attempt at replicating the impossible totality of understanding the death of a relationship. While the overall experience asks for nearly three and a half hours of our time only to arrive at mostly unanswered (and unanswerable) questions, the rewards are there for those who've been on either side of this sort of thing.

Re: The Disappearance(s) of Eleanor Rigby (Ned Bensom, 2014)

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:34 am
by Perkins Cobb
And of course Netflix is only carrying one disc, apparently the Them version. Who's worse, Harvey Scissorhands or Reed Hastings?

Re: The Disappearance(s) of Eleanor Rigby (Ned Bensom, 2014)

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:52 pm
by therewillbeblus
I started watching the Them version but it just felt 'off' to me, so I went to the film's thread and was glad to see your recommended viewing order, domino, which was very rewarding (and I cannot believe this truncated edit is the primary 'feature' in the set, while the two films are special features- abominable)
domino harvey wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:55 pm We want answers and closure in a breakup, but is it better or worse to realize so does the person who initiated it? The possible answers lobbed about here, including most prominently a dead child, would be the easy and obvious answers in a less realistic film. These movies however take a more level, if somewhat frustrating stance: sometimes a relationship dies and it is just over, and yet we find ourselves drawn to this other person still, whether or not it's fair to ourselves or them. It's part of what makes the end of the first film so wonderful
Spoiler
as McAvoy being stalked by Chastain through his early evening walk is a smart metaphor for the inescapable nature of some relationships in our psyche ("the one that got away"), even when things seem to be better and we've ostensibly "moved on," the memory of them follows us.
I loved this ending, especially its ambiguity
Spoiler
Since the camera stays in place as McAvoy walks away before we see Chastain following him, should we interpret this as an objective perspective leaving the "Him" skewed-narrative behind? If not, is this a fantastical wish fulfillment from him imagining her following him- one that cannot be sustained (if one pays close attention, her image begins to fade, briefly becoming transparent like a ghost before returning to corporeal form)? Or is it more removed, as the camera's distance insinuates, and a reminder that her effect on him is permanently-sewn, even as he evolves and moves on and the memory's impact is malleable in definition? I love the implication that our subjective realities become objective within the internal logic of our emotionally-driven narratives.

The ending to the "Her" film spoils said ambiguity, but that flicker of her disappearing briefly can carry abstract poetic meaning for either character with some fixed range to observe, rather than becoming blended with either.
Also, while I think I liked the first film more than the second as a whole, it's unclear whether or not that's due to its novelty. William Hurt expectedly gives the best perf in either film though, with Ciarán Hinds a close second, as each characters' respective father, granted endless shades of humanity, admirably leaving the depths of their characters in the elisions.