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771 Two Days, One Night

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:21 pm
by swo17
Two Days, One Night

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Oscar winner Marion Cotillard received another nomination for her searing, deeply felt performance as a working-class woman desperate to hold on to her factory job, in this gripping film from master Belgian directors Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne. Cotillard is Sandra, a wife and mother who suffers from depression and discovers that, while she was home on sick leave, a majority of her coworkers voted in favor of her being fired rather than give up their annual bonuses. She then spends a Saturday and Sunday visiting them each in turn, to try to convince them to change their minds. From this simple premise, the Dardennes render a powerful, humanist drama about the importance of community in an increasingly impersonal world.

DIRECTOR-APPROVED SPECIAL EDITION:

• New 2K digital transfer, approved by directors Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne, with DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 soundtrack on the Blu-ray
• New interviews with the Dardennes and actors Marion Cotillard and Fabrizio Rongione
When Léon M.'s Boat Went Down the Meuse for the First Time (1979), a forty-five minute documentary by the Dardennes, featuring a new introduction by the directors
• New tour of the film's key locations with the directors
• Trailer
• PLUS: An essay by critic Girish Shambu

Re: Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:17 am
by hearthesilence
swo17 wrote:I recently commented in the '80s list thread about Bresson's L'Argent, and how it shows the viciousness that we unleash purely by removing ourselves one step from face-to-face communication when we deal with each other instead through paper (i.e. currency, letter writing, bureaucracy). In this sense, Two Days, One Night is the perfect answer to L'Argent. Money is the central issue here, but we never see any of it. Instead, we get nothing but one-on-one conversations, allowing for an in-depth exploration of all of the gray areas specific to the particular situation of this film.

Upon first hearing the film's plot, you might assume that this is going to be a root-for-the-underdog-against-the-system sort of story (and there is a little bit of that) but as with many things in life, it's a lot more complicated than that. Some of the people that voted to keep their bonus over keeping Sandra on may have done so out of selfishness, but most of them seem to need the bonus just as badly as she needs her job. Of course, some of these people may only think they need the money, or may only need it now because they hadn't been as responsible as they could have been with the wages they earned throughout the year. Perhaps this is even true of Sandra. Either way, Sandra needs a job now, sure, but does she need this one? And even if you sympathize with her situation, if you legitimately need the bonus yourself, to what extent do you work against your own interests by cooperating with her mission to contact all of her coworkers over the weekend? There are no easy answers here, and this is just the sort of scenario that the Dardennes excel at presenting.

By coincidence, I happened to precede my viewing of this film with that Mark Wahlberg movie Fear (mistaking it for domino's recommendation of another film with the same name, despite his always referring to it as the one with Ally Sheedy!). That movie is all about processing extreme swings of new information ("He's a dreamboat," "No wait, he's a brute..." "Oh, but he's sorry about it," "Except also, he's a murderer!") but doesn't exactly shoot for subtlety or authenticity. Two Days, One Night is strikingly similar in putting its heroine through the ringer in this way, but it unsurprisingly feels a lot more true to life. While it's somewhat predictable that some of the people Sandra encounters throughout the weekend will side with her and that others will side against her, the real substance of the film lies in how she takes each new bit of news--how much of a rush it is to hear that even just a single person is rooting for you, how soul-crushing it is to be taken down a notch (or perhaps worse, to be brushed off by someone that you assumed would be on your side), and more generally, how much of a toll it takes to fight so hard for yourself. Some more in spoilers:
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A couple of moments here seemed to play the stakes a little too high (the fist fight, or the woman who leaves her controlling husband--more believably, she probably would have just lied to her husband about how she was going to vote and then blamed it on her coworkers if Sandra got her job back; as it is, it almost feels like this woman is trying to hijack the movie from Sandra) but, curiously enough, the most exaggerated dramatic moment here (the is-she-really-doing-this suicide attempt followed by a miraculous moment of joyous hope that prompts Sandra to instantly confess what she has done, then a hard cut to her recovery bed in the hospital) struck me as one of the film's most successful, and a more darkly comic one than what I've come to expect from the Dardennes. Or actually, I don't know if it was so much comical as it was just such an atrocious turn of events that I couldn't help but laugh at it. In any case, I think this moment may have worked more than the other two I mentioned because the film really commits to it, as opposed to maybe feeling tacked on to add a bit of variety to the numerous necessary visits.

A great ending too. Happiness isn't about getting what you (think you) want, but about standing back up again, with hope, after having been knocked down.
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I think the suicide attempt got a huge laugh at the first NYFF screening when she revealed what she had done. Could be wrong, but the people around me laughed.

And what a great ending indeed. A damning indictment of capitalism, there was no way she could surrender herself to that deal, not after everything she witnessed and the way she was traumatized over and over again. Not so easy when economic consequences are experienced rather than witnessed at a distance, much less on a sheet of numbers.

Re: Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:52 am
by domino harvey
If it makes you feel any better swo, I do have that Fear in my unwatched pile for the 90s list! Though, like, maybe it's easier to just say what I don't have at this point

Re: Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:59 am
by swo17
You might want to keep that one down toward the bottom of your pile. :wink: (<---Don't cross this smiley, he has a dark side)
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hearthesilence wrote:And what a great ending indeed. A damning indictment of capitalism, there was no way she could surrender herself to that deal, not after everything she witnessed and the way she was traumatized over and over again. Not so easy when economic consequences are experienced rather than witnessed at a distance, much less on a sheet of numbers.
I don't know that I'd call it an indictment of capitalism per se. I mean, Sandra's boss has insulated himself enough from the ground level that he's started to see people merely as numbers, but even if he were more empathetic to his workers, he'd still be faced with certain marketplace realities. I don't think this film is saying at all that we need to tear down the existing system because it would be more "fair" for everyone to be able to keep whatever job they want forever. That would be a dubious solution where all the change is external to the individual. In contrast, this film is all about finding inner strength and happiness regardless of your circumstances or whether everything goes your way.

Re: Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:59 am
by hearthesilence
swo17 wrote:You might want to keep that one down toward the bottom of your pile. :wink: (<---Don't cross this smiley, he has a dark side)
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hearthesilence wrote:And what a great ending indeed. A damning indictment of capitalism, there was no way she could surrender herself to that deal, not after everything she witnessed and the way she was traumatized over and over again. Not so easy when economic consequences are experienced rather than witnessed at a distance, much less on a sheet of numbers.
I don't know that I'd call it an indictment of capitalism per se. I mean, Sandra's boss has insulated himself enough from the ground level that he's started to see people merely as numbers, but even if he were more empathetic to his workers, he'd still be faced with certain marketplace realities. I don't think this film is saying at all that we need to tear down the existing system because it would be more "fair" for everyone to be able to keep whatever job they want forever. That would be a dubious solution where all the change is external to the individual. In contrast, this film is all about finding inner strength and happiness regardless of your circumstances or whether everything goes your way.
I wasn't suggesting that we should tear down the existing system, but I am suggesting that the film is an indictment on how capitalist practices have changed in recent years, especially leading up to the financial meltdown and especially in the lopsided recovery that's defined its aftermath.

What Sandra's boss wants echoes the growing practice of squeezing more out of the working class, or simply paying them less, or both at the same time (something I've seen quite often too, especially among my friends working in media - journalism, print, you name it). This isn't the exact same status quo, they're being asked to work longer hours in order to make dropping Sandra feasible, and their bonuses are being held hostage to tip the scales further. The boss even concedes that it wasn't until Sandra was forced to take a leave of absence (the setup to the film for those who haven't seen it) that they realized they could theoretically create the same output with one less person (and more hours for everyone else). Had this not happened, I suppose they would've dropped one of their contractors down the road, but the way this attempted firing went down - pitting their own employees against each other - is pretty heinous and of the company's own doing.

From a NYTimes interview that virtually repeats the same reaction:

“She is a person we had thought about for 10 years,” Jean-Pierre said. The idea of a worker forced to bargain for her job not with management but with her fellow employees was a potent metaphor for the state of modern capitalism to begin with, but in the wake of the financial crisis of 2008 and its harsh, prolonged aftermath it took on particular relevance.

“In 2010, 2012 we really began to see the social and economic consequences,” Luc said, “and that was what brought us back to this scenario, and convinced us to make the film. There were a lot more people out of work in our area, and not only in our area.” Anecdotes that mirrored Sandra’s predicament became more common: Luc noted that in the months since the French premiere of Two Days in the spring, three companies in Belgium and France had subjected their employees to similar choices.

Re: Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:11 am
by swo17
That's interesting that there are real-life parallels to the plot of this film. I'd honestly never heard of something like that happening before, and if anything, it seemed a little like a screenwriter's conceit to me.

Re: Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:06 am
by FrauBlucher

Re: Two Days, One Night (Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne)

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:40 am
by Jeff
The entire plot really does seem a bit contrived, real-life parallels or not. It's riveting anyway. I've seen several critics compare Sandra's weekend appeals to Gary Cooper's recruitment drive in High Noon, and it does indeed have that same sense mounting urgency, tension, and desperation. Marion Cotillard is fantastic, realistically navigating the ebb and flow of confidence and determination, discouragement and despair. I too loved the ending, for exactly the reasons swo described. This may be second-tier Dardenne, but that means it still better than 90% of the films this year.

Re: Two Days, One Night (Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne)

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:28 am
by Luke M
Jeff wrote:The entire plot really does seem a bit contrived, real-life parallels or not. It's riveting anyway. I've seen several critics compare Sandra's weekend appeals to Gary Cooper's recruitment drive in High Noon, and it does indeed have that same sense mounting urgency, tension, and desperation. Marion Cotillard is fantastic, realistically navigating the ebb and flow of confidence and determination, discouragement and despair. I too loved the ending, for exactly the reasons swo described. This may be second-tier Dardenne, but that means it still better than 90% of the films this year.
Agree with this wholeheartedly.

The parallels with High Noon are interesting, hadn't thought of it that way. As for the plot, I attended a screening with a Q&A with the Dardenne brothers and one of them mentioned drawing the story from part of a speech President Obama made.

Re: Two Days, One Night (Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne, 2014)

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:50 am
by swo17
I actually disagree with his math though. If it's one of the ten best films of the year, and there have been maybe 50,000 films this year (per IMDb), then it's better than 99.98% of this year's films. (Granted, if Jeff were to watch every last one of these films, he could discover hundreds of films that he likes more, but if this even stayed in the top 500 after all was said and done, we'd still be talking 99th percentile here.)

Re: Two Days, One Night (Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne, 2014)

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:25 am
by Jeff
I'm going to make sure that I watch exactly 100 films this year, just to make the math easier.

Re: Two Days, One Night (Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne, 2014)

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:47 am
by knives
That shouldn't be too hard. Less than two a week.

Re: Two Days, One Night (Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne, 2014)

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:26 am
by swo17
Not if you have to beg your co-workers for movie tickets every time. And now we're back on topic.

Re: Two Days, One Night (Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne, 2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:32 pm
by ianthemovie
My apologies for needing to clarify something that seems to have been obvious to everyone else:
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Sandra turns down the offer from her boss to keep her job at the end of the movie, right? I had trouble keeping up with the subtitles in the final scene when she's on the phone with her husband; I think she says something like "It's going to be hard but we'll manage." The idea being that she'll need to find another job, but it will be worth it because she will have retained her integrity and not chosen to screw over a fellow worker. Her decision to "dump" her manipulative boss seemed to me to parallel her female co-worker's decision to break up with her (implicitly abusive) husband. Am I reading this correctly?

Re: Two Days, One Night (Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne, 2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:32 pm
by PfR73
ianthemovie wrote:My apologies for needing to clarify something that seems to have been obvious to everyone else:
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Sandra turns down the offer from her boss to keep her job at the end of the movie, right? I had trouble keeping up with the subtitles in the final scene when she's on the phone with her husband; I think she says something like "It's going to be hard but we'll manage." The idea being that she'll need to find another job, but it will be worth it because she will have retained her integrity and not chosen to screw over a fellow worker. Her decision to "dump" her manipulative boss seemed to me to parallel her female co-worker's decision to break up with her (implicitly abusive) husband. Am I reading this correctly?
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The filmmakers leave it somewhat ambiguous, but yes, the impression I got was that she was not going to take the boss' offer so that she could maintain her integrity.

Re: Two Days, One Night (Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne, 2014)

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:49 pm
by D50
Will this make a limited (or, hopefully, theatrical release, and guarantee a southern NV showing) release due to it's Academy award nomination?

Re: Two Days, One Night (Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne, 2014)

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:17 pm
by hearthesilence

Re: Two Days, One Night (Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne, 2014)

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:11 pm
by D50
Showing at a local theater! I know what I'll be doing tomorrow.
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Great song. I did not realize it was Petula Clark.

Re: 771 Two Days, One Night

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 8:49 pm
by swo17

Re: 771 Two Days, One Night

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 4:54 pm
by knives
I never would have thought they'd allow their early work to be available. That extra is almost more exciting than the film proper.

Re: 771 Two Days, One Night

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 5:33 pm
by Gregory
Luc Dardenne has referred to the early documentaries as their training or apprenticeship period, but I don't believe they ever renounced those films or tried to prevent them from being seen, though I believe they'd just as soon have their first two fiction features (Falsch and Je Pense à Vous) remain all but forgotten, with La Promesse standing as their real debut as fiction filmmakers (they had true control of their work that time and the film was a major success). But the video documentaries are part of an interesting body of Belgian video in which Dérives (the documentary collective they cofounded in 1975) had an important place. That might have made a great DVD collection on its own, though not all of the Dardennes' documentary works have survived, or at least not in complete form. Léon M. was shot on half-inch video, so people should probably go in with the expectation that it's going to look like pretty rough-and-ready, but it's an extremely worthwhile special feature.

Re: 771 Two Days, One Night

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 5:57 pm
by The Fanciful Norwegian
There's a Belgian box set (DVD only, alas) that includes a number of their documentaries, plus all of their features through Lorna's Silence. The specs list English subs, but I would be reluctant to take the plunge without having some first-hand confirmation on that, especially when it comes to the pre-Promesse work—it's not like the later stuff is hard to track down, and the box ain't exactly cheap. (The store linked above apparently wants €120 shipped to the U.S., though I haven't shopped around.) Anyone have more info about this?

Re: 771 Two Days, One Night

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 6:38 pm
by Gregory
I don't know, but you're probably right not to implicitly trust the specs. This page on the Cinéart label's site shows it being considerably less "integrale" in the documentary department than the specs in your link, with only three listed, so who knows. Also, they've listed Falsch as a 1996 film, but it's from 1987.

Philip Mosley, in his book on the Dardennes, states that the surviving portion of The Nightingale's Song (i.e., most of the film) has been preserved on "a DVD transfer," but I haven't been able to find such a DVD. Perhaps it was transferred in order to preserve it but wasn't released commercially.

Re: 771 Two Days, One Night

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 8:18 pm
by The Fanciful Norwegian
The Bibliothèque nationale de France has a detailed breakdown of the set in their online catalog, and includes the documentaries missing on the Cinéart site. (There wouldn't be enough material for an 11-disc set without them, unless they were actually dedicating entire discs to documentaries running under an hour—though apparently that's precisely the case with the 11th disc.) So I'm at least confident those are there; it's the subtitles I'm more curious about. Unfortunately the catalog doesn't specify subtitle options for the individual films, only for the set as a whole. It also lists Falsch as a 1986 release (or rather a 1986 copyright), so presumably the 1996 date was a slip of the keyboard. I sent an email to Cinéart asking for clarification on the subtitle situation, though of course there's no guarantee they'll respond.

Unfortunately it appears that The Nightingale's Song is not on the set in any form. It was also missing from last year's retrospective at the Cinémathèque française, so perhaps your theory is right and the Dardennes don't want it shown for the time being.

Re: 771 Two Days, One Night

Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 5:54 am
by CR2
knives wrote:I never would have thought they'd allow their early work to be available. That extra is almost more exciting than the film proper.
What would be the prohibitive aspect to that? Not a fan of their early material?

This is fantastic news though I've been waiting to check this out for ages.