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BD 160 Varieté
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:07 pm
by Drucker
Re: Forthcoming: Varieté
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:01 pm
by swo17
Let's hope they've learned from
this thread.
Re: Forthcoming: Varieté
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:22 pm
by TMDaines
Oh yes! Absolutely fantastic news. They surely will be providing an alternate score.
I see your dog is equally ecstatic at this news, Drucker.
Re: Forthcoming: Varieté
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:31 pm
by Drucker
My dog sat quietly and attentively as we watched Eros + Massacre over the weekend. Variete should be a cinch!
Re: Forthcoming: Varieté
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:18 pm
by domino harvey
No one ever matches how I picture them in my head, I envisioned Drucker's dog completely different than that.
Re: Forthcoming: Varieté
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:40 pm
by Tommaso
Drucker wrote:My dog sat quietly and attentively as we watched Eros + Massacre over the weekend. Variete should be a cinch!
Wait for him howling along with that Tiger Lillies singer should things go wrong with this release...
Forthcoming: Varieté
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 11:18 am
by rapta
The elaborate new restoration of the silent classic by Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau Foundation carried out in cooperation with the Austrian Film Archive and the NFP media rights, as featured at Berlinale 2015 but with a new score. Emil Jannings plays a former trapeze artist who runs a seedy carnival with his wife (Maly Delscaft) and child but longs for his former life in the circus. Entranced by a beautiful stranger (Lya De Putti), he leaves his family behind and develops a new and dangerous trapeze number, which ultimately leads to disaster. Featuring virtuoso camera-work for the trapeze sequences, and stunning performances from the whole cast, Varieté (also known as Jealousy) is a stunning piece of silent cinema.
Confirmed here:
https://sites.google.com/site/scalarama ... ete-jinnah" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Forthcoming: Varieté
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 10:14 pm
by Tommaso
Thanks for the link. But "Blu ray only"?! Always assuming that they give us another score, otherwise I don't care at all, anyway.
Re: Forthcoming: Varieté
Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 8:22 am
by NABOB OF NOWHERE
I think most people would take the Speaking Clock over the Tiger Lilies
Re: Forthcoming: Varieté
Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 10:01 am
by lubitsch
Tommaso wrote:Thanks for the link. But "Blu ray only"?! Always assuming that they give us another score, otherwise I don't care at all, anyway.
Yes, there are lots of people in germany who didn't buy the abominable German release and are waiting for the MoC release. So why Blu only? Couldn't you please make this a dual format release?
Re: Forthcoming: Varieté
Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 10:08 am
by antnield
lubitsch wrote:So why Blu only? Couldn't you please make this a dual format release?
The link relates to potential screenings as part of Scalarama - i.e., if anyone wishes to screen the film in September it'll be from a Blu-ray rather than 35mm or DCP - and has no bearing on the home video release.
Re: Forthcoming: Varieté
Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 11:06 am
by TMDaines
There's still people refusing to buy a Blu-ray player? I get not wanting to upgrade your entire collection, but Blu-ray is backwards-compatible with DVD, so I cannot understand why people, film/home-video enthusiasts even, do not make the transition.
Re: Forthcoming: Varieté
Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 4:06 pm
by Tommaso
Thanks for the info, antnield!
TMDaines wrote:There's still people refusing to buy a Blu-ray player? I get not wanting to upgrade your entire collection, but Blu-ray is backwards-compatible with DVD, so I cannot understand why people, film/home-video enthusiasts even, do not make the transition.
Because my old 16:9 TUBE is easily superior to any affordable flatscreen TV or computer monitor when it comes to playing age-old silents from dubious sources and similar such material. And it looks really fine with dvds, too (better than any flatscreen of the same size and pricepoint I've seen when playing SD material). So I'll keep it as long as it lasts. It just isn't HD compatible and has no HDMI input, so a blu player isn't any use to me at the moment, and most blu players nowadays don't even have analogue audio outputs, which I'd also need for connecting it to my old analogue stereo amplifier (and not just when it comes to playing opera dvds...)

So dual-format is the best choice for me at the moment.
Re: Forthcoming: Varieté
Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 5:57 pm
by rapta
Tommaso wrote:Thanks for the info, antnield!
TMDaines wrote:There's still people refusing to buy a Blu-ray player? I get not wanting to upgrade your entire collection, but Blu-ray is backwards-compatible with DVD, so I cannot understand why people, film/home-video enthusiasts even, do not make the transition.
Because my old 16:9 TUBE is easily superior to any affordable flatscreen TV or computer monitor when it comes to playing age-old silents from dubious sources and similar such material. And it looks really fine with dvds, too (better than any flatscreen of the same size and pricepoint I've seen when playing SD material). So I'll keep it as long as it lasts. It just isn't HD compatible and has no HDMI input, so a blu player isn't any use to me at the moment, and most blu players nowadays don't even have analogue audio outputs, which I'd also need for connecting it to my old analogue stereo amplifier (and not just when it comes to playing opera dvds...)

So dual-format is the best choice for me at the moment.
It may well be Dual Format in the end, as most of the silent films released on MoC Blu-ray have been. And as others have already said, those details are for screening purposes only - presumably there's a DVD available too, but obviously people screening a film to the public would want the best possible PQ and AQ, and would therefore opt for Blu-ray over DVD.
Re: Forthcoming: Varieté
Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 10:06 am
by NABOB OF NOWHERE
Unless I have missed it it seems there is no confirmation as to the soundtrack. If this is still up for grabs I would love this to be a chance for Christine Ott to be in the frame. A composer in her own right she has added piano and ondes martenot to the likes of Radiohead, Tindersticks' (Claire Denis scores) and worked long term with Yann Tiersen.
She has done live concerts for showings of Murnau, Flaherty and Reininger which have snippets available on Youtube. Her sensibilities are so much more in keeping with the passions and aerial ballet of Varieté than the ramshackle Katzenjammer of Tiger Lilies. So here's hoping.
Re: Forthcoming: Varieté
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:25 pm
by domino harvey
Coming January 23rd
Re: Forthcoming: Varieté
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:43 pm
by Cronenfly
Man, those clips scored by the Tiger Lilies linked in the other thread are hilarious. Obviously not appropriate to this, or indeed any, film, but I kind of hope MoC includes it as a goof (along with a proper new score, of course).
Re: Forthcoming: Varieté
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:48 pm
by lubitsch
Cronenfly wrote:Man, those clips scored by the Tiger Lilies linked in the other thread are hilarious. Obviously not appropriate to this, or indeed any, film, but I kind of hope MoC includes it as a goof (along with a proper new score, of course).
As you can read in the Youtube trailer description
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ46TEBYFA0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; there's going to be a Stephen Horne piano music and this immortal piece of musical c***.
Re: BD 160 Varieté
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:50 pm
by Werdegast
The cover has been revealed:

Re: BD 160 Varieté
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:01 pm
by Drucker
Superb cover.
Re: BD 160 Varieté
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:59 am
by David Gallagher
I don't think it's been mentioned but if you order this and Man From Laramie in the same order at Eureka before the end of the month, they're £25 for the pair.
They're rather disparate films and for some they won't both appeal yet as someone who would rank James Stewart and Emil Jannings very highly in the pantheon of great actors, and who wants to support Eureka in releasing more silents and westerns - I'm on board.
Re: BD 160 Varieté
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:21 pm
by JimmyTango
Is this the full 101 minute version?
Re: BD 160 Varieté
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:41 pm
by Tommaso
It's actually even a bit more complete than the 101 minute version, however it runs only 95 minutes due to faster playback speed. Too fast, I'd argue, in quite a few scenes (whereas the old TV version at 101 minutes, and slightly less complete, looks pitch-perfect to me in this respect). Apart from this, the new resto of course looks wonderful, but fans that have the old version - never officially released anywhere, before you ask - might want to keep it for comparison. Alternatively, if you watch on the computer, I'd suggest slowing down the film a little in VLC (even though this would also affect Stephen Horne's music, of course...).
Re: BD 160 Varieté
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:02 pm
by JimmyTango
Thanks, looking forward to this.
Re: BD 160 Varieté
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:34 pm
by otis