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Just wondering.

From what I can tell; Balthazar, Hoop Dreams and Phantom of Liberty are all single layer according to that website.

Is this correct?

I'm guessing that Hoop Dreams and Balthazar, at least, would be dual layer, with the total running time of video on each disc...

Hoop Dreams:

To maintain optimal image quality through the compression process, the picture on this dual-layer DVD-9 was encoded at the highest-possible bit rate for the quantity of materials included.

http://www.criterion.com/asp/release.asp?id=289

cafeman wrote:Just wondering.

A couple titles from the Kurosawa samurai box; 2 titles from Truffaut's Antonie series.

daniel p wrote:From what I can tell; Balthazar, Hoop Dreams and Phantom of Liberty are all single layer according to that website.

Is this correct?

If you look at Criterion's website all of them are dual layer... Whoever is claiming single layer is wrong. I can't think of a single recent SL Criterion. Probably the last one was Les Dames du Bois de Boulogne.

Yojimbo, Sanjuro, Love on the run, Bed and board,....., to name a few.

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#146 Cranes Are Flying and #148 Ballad of a Soldier are incorrectly labeled on CC website as Dual layer when in fact they are single layer only.
Also #195 I Fidanzati appears to be single layer (according to both CC website and IMDB).

I don't know if it's changed, but the older pressing of "M. Hulot's Holiday" is single layer. It's a short movie with brief extras and one 2-channel audio track. I'm sure Night & Fog is single layer for similar reasons.

Just out of curiousity, could Criterion have made these as dual-layer DVD's with greater resolution, or is there a limit/ceiling in resolution and standard DVD compatibility that would've made that unlikely?

Ted Todorov wrote: If you look at Criterion's website all of them are dual layer... Whoever is claiming single layer is wrong. I can't think of a single recent SL Criterion. Probably the last one was Les Dames du Bois de Boulogne.

If you look on the play side of the disc and there are two rings with lettering and numbers around the center hole, then it's dual layer. If only one ring with lettering and numbering, then it's single layer.

A lot of the early release are single layer (Lady Vanishes, original 400 Blows, original Beauty & the Beast, The Killer, Walkabout, Salo, original M, Alphaville, Summertime, Shock Corridor, Naked Kiss, Nanook, Long Good Friday and so on) Spinal Tap is a dual-sided, single-layered DVD (DVD-10), movie on one side (with commentaries) and extras on the second side. It's the only DVD-10 release as well. They usually only did it when the movie and extras were together over 2 hours. Now they seem to put everything on a dual-layer discs.

They probably did this because of costs because my understanding was that it was actually more expensive to press dual-layer discs in the early days of DVD.

Just out of curiousity, could Criterion have made these as dual-layer DVD's with greater resolution, or is there a limit/ceiling in resolution and standard DVD compatibility that would've made that unlikely?

Yes, there is a point at which the information on the disc just can't go any higher. Fidelity to the master in any digital recording is measured by the bitrate. To encode at a bitrate that's too high would result in players tripping over themselves trying to read the mass of information.

That said, I've heard of studios pressing DVD9s without any information to put on the second layer just so that it could be called a dual-layer disc. Although I think Criterion would know better, it is entirely possible that some of the weaker dual-layer discs in the collection are true DVD9s with as much information as a regular ole' DVD5.

To my surprise, THE PASSION OF JOAN OF ARC. Posted belatedly after a longstanding hunch was confirmed over a month ago.

Disc Two of the Richard III set is single layer.

motley6 wrote:Adding a few more

Brazil- all 3 discs are single layer
Armageddon- both discs are single layer
Olivier's Hamlet- 1 disc single layer


Anybody know any others besides the ones previously mentioned?

Last I check Hamlet clocks in about 7.3 gigs. RSDL for sure. As is Armageddon. I believe the long version of Brazil is RSDL as well, but that the supplements disc is single layered. I don't know about the hacked version.

motley6 wrote:Adding a few more
Brazil- all 3 discs are single layer
Armageddon- both discs are single layer
Olivier's Hamlet- 1 disc single layer
Anybody know any others besides the ones previously mentioned?

Wrong.
Armageddon - disc one - 8.385 GB DL
Hamlet - 8.243 GB DL
Brazil - disc one - 7.385 GB DL
Brazil - disc two - 5.914 GB DL

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