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340 Koko: A Talking Gorilla
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:41 pm
by mmacklem
Koko: A Talking Gorilla
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In 1977, acclaimed director Barbet Schroeder and cinematographer Nestor Almendros entered the universe of the world's most famous primate to create the captivating documentary
Koko: A Talking Gorilla. The film introduces us to Koko soon after she was brought from the San Francisco Zoo to Stanford University by Dr. Penny Patterson for a controversial experiment—she would be taught the basics of human communication through American Sign Language. An entertaining, troubling, and still relevant documentary,
Koko: A Talking Gorilla sheds light on the ongoing ethical and philosophical debates over the individual rights of animals and brings us face-to-face with an amazing gorilla caught in the middle.
Special Features
-New, restored digital transfer supervised and approved by director Barbet Schroeder
-New video interview with Schroeder
-Alternate French-language audio track with optional English subtitles
-Optional English subtitles for the deaf and hard of hearing
-PLUS: A new essay by author Gary Indiana and an homage to Koko from Marguerite Duras
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:48 pm
by What A Disgrace
Beat me by a minute.
I spent that minute looking at the cover art, trying to figure out if I was awake or dreaming.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:19 pm
by Jean-Luc Garbo
Wow, way to follow up those last two Barbet Schroeder films, Criterion. I would have expected something like this to be on Home Vision were they still around.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:13 pm
by Narshty
When I saw the title, I thought another cult schlocker might have escaped the Eclipse pen, but now the overwhelming thought on my mind is: Eh?
To be fair, I can imagine it'll be a very engaging, interesting film, but it seems like the sort of thing one might happen to watch on TV one evening - a Horizon special or something. It just seems like a rather C-list selection - a little-known documentary on a rather obscure topic by a not-especially distinguished director.
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:20 am
by Matt
Grumbling has been moved to the
Criterion 2006 thread. If you want to complain about the quality of titles being announced, you know
where to stick it.
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:43 am
by neal
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:36 am
by FilmFanSea
Koko's Official Website
Unfortunately, the natural DVD supplement to this film would have been the 1999 PBS
Nature documentary,
A Conversation with Koko, but it's already been released on DVD (and I doubt PBS would license it out).
Also see
this article which details the bizarre sexual discrimination lawsuit filed by two female former employees of the Gorilla Foundation, who alleged that they had been required to bare their breasts to Koko (who is female, BTW). The lawsuit was
dismissed last December.
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:54 am
by The Elegant Dandy Fop
I'm looking forward to seeing this.
I haven't seen this since elementary school, and I actually remember liking it, but then again, I was 7.
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:16 am
by edgarnazaretian
weirdest thing about these two dvds being announced...i had a dream last night where i was at the criterion page and i saw the new titles announced and they were all random films...dont know the titles...i just remember thinking "wtf"? no offense to the movies, just never heard of them
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:02 pm
by cdnchris
Now I'm going to express some disappointment. In all honesty I've found Koko to be quite fascinating ever since I was young and I know there's a lot of stuff out there on the subject so I figured with this release there'd be prime-pickings for supplements. But alas, just a Schroeder interview and an alternate French track I won't listen to.
Ah well, at least it's a cheaper one. I've actually become more fascinated with this film after reading more about it and I'd really like to see it now. Plus my wife wants it, so it doesn't feel like too much of a gamble.
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:28 pm
by backstreetsbackalright
and an homage to Koko from Marguerite Duras
Hot!
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:37 pm
by skuhn8
Couldn't they dig up something to clue us in on what the monkey's been up to the past 25 years?
I'm definitely intrigued, never knew about this documentary, though wouldn't be surprised if I've seen it without being aware that it was Barbet's as I definitely would never switch the channel on Koko.
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:43 pm
by cdnchris
skuhn8 wrote:Couldn't they dig up something to clue us in on what the monkey's been up to the past 25 years?
Exactly. Other than dying and losing a baby (which she apparently expressed being depressed about--or was it a cat??) I know nothing else about what she's been up to and I thought a supplement like that would be great (though, true, the interview might mention something, or at least the booklet, but still...)
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:49 pm
by oldsheperd
What about Cheetah the monkey from the Tarzan films. he just celebrated his 75th. I must sat, though this is a much wlecome surpise, surprisingly out of nowhere. The only thing I can compare this release to in the collection is with For All Mankind since that was originally a National Geograhic.
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:56 pm
by Buttery Jeb
I, too, was hoping for a "Koko on Koko" featurette on this one. I'd think anyone watching this would be interested on her thoughts from back during the making of the film.
As it stands, I had a jones to rent this a few weeks ago, and my current all-DVD rental place informed me it wasn't out. I was convinced HVE put it out with "More." Oh well, at least it's coming now.
-BJ
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:27 pm
by Andre Jurieu
edgarnazaretian wrote: no offense to the movies, just never heard of them
I can maybe understand not having heard of
KoKo, since it's a bit older, but you've seriously never heard of
Yi Yi despite the enormous amount of praise it has received since its release? That makes me sad.
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:28 pm
by The Invunche
Everytime Andre gets sad an angel masturbates.
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:35 pm
by Andre Jurieu
The Invunche wrote:Everytime Andre gets sad an angel masturbates.
Wow. Angels have remarkable self-control? I wonder if it's a sin in heaven, or whether "guilty" angels just fly around smashing into one another?
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:14 pm
by jcelwin
Perhaps we can start a new topic:
Anyone up for some cattiness about criterionforum.org?
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:16 pm
by bunuelian
I look forward to seeing this much more than I look forward to seeing Andre masturbate. Or wait, I don't see that on the supplements list - am I misisng something? *rocks back and forth*
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:05 pm
by Andre Jurieu
jcelwin wrote:Perhaps we can start a new topic:
Anyone up for some cattiness about criterionforum.org?
That didn't take long.
bunuelian wrote:I look forward to seeing this much more than I look forward to seeing Andre masturbate.
That's angels masturbating, not me.
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:44 am
by daniel p
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:23 pm
by souvenir
DVD Beaver review is up and, surprisingly, it appears this release is not progressive and has combing issues. This would certainly be disappointing.
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:36 pm
by Gordon
DVD Beaver is timing out, as of 23:00 GMT.
A non-progressive Criterion transfer is 2006 is disturbing. First Midnight Cowboy, now this.
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:23 am
by HerrSchreck
What struck me is that Gary stated that this is the first purely nonprogressive CC dvd, which is incorrect. Off the top of my head NANOOK & HAXAN are both interlaced transfers.