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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:42 pm
by Lino
From
TLAVideo:
PRODUCT FORMAT INFORMATION:
DVD: Letterbox $33.99 4-disc Special Edition
Availability: PRE-ORDER: Available 10/02/2007
Close Caption: No
Region Code: 1
UPC: 014381875720
Catalog #: DL1031352
Studio: Penthouse
Languages: English Dolby Digital 5.1 - Primary
Aspect Ratio: 1.85
Widescreen
Extras: Anamorphic
Cast/Crew Biographies
Features: Booklet
Audio commentary (On-set writer Ernest Volkman)
Audio commentary (Malcolm McDowell and Helen Mirren)
Documentaries (Two versions of "The Making of Caligula")
Interview(s) (Tinto Brass and actors John Steiner and Lori Wagner)
Photo gallery (Never-before-seen images from the set)
DVD-ROM content (Press kit notes)
DVD-ROM content (Interview with Bob Guccione)
DVD-ROM content (Gore Vidal's original screenplay)
DVD-ROM content (Three Penthouse magazine features)
Featurette (Alternate pre-release version of the film with never-before-seen footage)
Digitally remastered (New high-definition transfer of the unrated, uncensored feature film)
Other (Bonus CD containing the full released soundtrack plus 40 minutes of film score never before available)
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:47 pm
by The Invunche
4 discs? There shold be one dedicated to Helen Mirren nudity of which there's too little in Caligula.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:01 pm
by tavernier
There are enough other movies with a naked Mirren in them....I can't wait to hear the McDowell/Mirren commentary, especially if they recorded it together.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:43 pm
by domino harvey
I imagine the commentary will consist mostly of a lot of thumps against the microphone as the two actors' heads repeatedly shake left to right in embarrassed disbelief.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:10 pm
by Lino
tavernier wrote:There are enough other movies with a naked Mirren in them....
But the best one, with Mirren in full frontal climbing the staircase of an English stately manor is still absent. I'm referring of course to Ken Russell's
Savage Messiah in which she plays a suffragette.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:42 pm
by patrick
The impression I'm getting from the Moebius forum thread about this is that the McDowall and Mirren commentaries are actually separate tracks, which is a bit of a shame. McDowall's commentary on If... is fantastically entertaining (I could listen to him read me Chinese takeout menus), so I'm still looking forward to hearing this.
I'm also interested in seeing the recreation of the Tinto Brass cut.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:15 pm
by malcolm1980
Holy crap! A Malcolm McDowell/Helen Mirren commentary? That's worth the price of the DVD right there.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:07 pm
by MichaelB
patrick wrote:McDowall's commentary on If... is fantastically entertaining (I could listen to him read me Chinese takeout menus)
(shameless plug) I assume you've seen
this, but just in case you haven't... (/shameless plug)
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:20 pm
by Scharphedin2
MichaelB wrote:patrick wrote:McDowall's commentary on If... is fantastically entertaining (I could listen to him read me Chinese takeout menus)
(shameless plug) I assume you've seen
this, but just in case you haven't... (/shameless plug)
McDowall is great! (don't be too quick in pushing the buttons during the program, you will miss out on some fun details).
Shameless plug and all, this may be as good a place as any to commend you (Michael), and everyone else involved with the Screenonline project, on a great job. A lot of valuable information is being put together and presented in a fun and entertaining way. (You just know that I love the directors' profiles).
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:26 am
by richast2
"So here's the famous scene where I put my fist in a guy's ass..."
SOLD.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:14 am
by Mr Pixies
Yeah, real excited for this, sold mine for $30 on Amazon and it sold right away. Is this going to be on sale everywhere? I'm a fan of Tinto Brass, I don't understand though, this includes his vision of the film?
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:37 am
by patrick
From what I've read, the second disc is a reconstruction of Tinto Brass' original cut of the film/what he originally intended for the film (similar to the Io, Caligola version, if I understand correctly).
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:46 am
by MichaelB
patrick wrote:From what I've read, the second disc is a reconstruction of Tinto Brass' original cut of the film/what he originally intended for the film (similar to the Io, Caligola version, if I understand correctly).
Presumably this is either the same as, or very similar to, the version that played on FilmFour in the UK a few years ago - essentially, the hardcore footage was removed, thus achieving the double bonus of (a) being truer to the original director's version and (b) making it legally screenable on British TV.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:08 am
by Cinesimilitude
I'll buy it. the current disc was always too expensive for what you were getting IMO, but 4 discs for under $30 is totally worth it.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:08 pm
by Narshty
MichaelB wrote:Presumably this is either the same as, or very similar to, the version that played on FilmFour in the UK a few years ago - essentially, the hardcore footage was removed, thus achieving the double bonus of (a) being truer to the original director's version and (b) making it legally screenable on British TV.
Apparently it's some kind of halfway house curiosity;
Bruce Holecheck at MHVF.net says it is:
a never-before-seen pre-release edit that eliminates the Guccione footage, restructures to film to conform with the shooting script, and contains alternate Brass-filmed footage, different edit rhythms and previously unseen deleted material (Disc 2). The Channel 4 version will not be on the disc, nor will the "R" rated abomination.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:07 pm
by Nothing
The Channel 4 version was a complete joke. They censored half the movie to meet ITC requirements, then tried to pretend that all of these changes were in the spirit that Brass intended. This pre-release version sounds far more interesting (though I'm rather partial to Guccione's additions in a way...)
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:35 am
by Barmy
Possibly the greatest Italian film not directed by Antonioni.
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:46 am
by tavernier
Barmy wrote:Possibly the greatest Italian film not directed by Antonioni.
....or Fellini or Bellocchio or Amelio or Rossellini or Latuada or De Sica or Olmi or....
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:20 am
by domino harvey
Barmy wrote:Possibly the greatest Italian film not directed by Antonioni.
stopped reading at the word "greatest"
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:04 am
by miless
tavernier wrote:Barmy wrote:Possibly the greatest Italian film not directed by Antonioni.
....or Fellini or Bellocchio or Amelio or Rossellini or Latuada or De Sica or Olmi or....
it could have also been been said: greatest Italian erotic film not directed by Bertolucci
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:26 am
by domino harvey
I understand the desire on this board to latch onto and "rescue" films which are generally looked down upon, but give me a fucking break
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:23 pm
by Barmy
I seriously think this is an excellent film. The music is great, it features some great star turns and does a far better job than Gladiator, that dumb Rome HBO series, CLAVDIVS or any other film (other than Satyricon, although that obviously is a diffferent kettle of fish) in depicting just how strange the life of a Roman emperor presumably was. I also confess to being a zoom aficionado, but leaving that aside, what is so "bad" about this film other than the Guccione "inserts"?
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:16 pm
by Gigi M.
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:45 pm
by Barmy
What's with the tiny poncey soldiers? Put some nude Mirren on the cover!
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:11 pm
by Mr Pixies
Barmy wrote:I seriously think this is an excellent film. The music is great, it features some great star turns and does a far better job than Gladiator, that dumb Rome HBO series, CLAVDIVS or any other film (other than Satyricon, although that obviously is a diffferent kettle of fish) in depicting just how strange the life of a Roman emperor presumably was. I also confess to being a zoom aficionado, but leaving that aside, what is so "bad" about this film other than the Guccione "inserts"?
Maybe it's all the dicks, people like tits, but not dicks, once there's a visible dick, it's porn and porn is the opposite of art. I thought the film was great, but I like extravagant weirdness and naked people. Too many of the wrong people saw it I guess.
