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=P~Things got even worse when the actor was asked to show his 'happy face.' "This is my happy face," Jones replied.
For there's a rule and an exception. Culture is the rule, and art is the exception. Everybody speaks the rule: cigarette, computer, T-shirt, TV, tourism, war. Nobody speaks the exception. It isn't spoken, it's written: Flaubert, Dostoyevski. It's composed: Gershwin, Mozart. It's painted: Cézanne, Vermeer. It's filmed: Antonioni, Vigo. Or it's lived, and then it's the art of living: Srebenica, Mostar, Sarajevo. The rule is to want the death of the exception. So the rule for Cultural Europe is to organize the death of the art of living, which still flourishes.
Yeah, but the French import their trash from America, particularly when they go to the movies (last year's top grossers in France were Ratatouille, Spider-Man 3, Harry Potter, Pirates of the Caribbean and Shrek). It's an attitude that Tavernier mocks in L'Appât. The US suck up their own cinematic product and barely look at foreign films. That's all that BT means by insular.Barmy wrote:Could Bert just STFU and stop blaming "American insularity". The French like trash no less than we do
Are there any psychopathic Mormons? I always thought the crime rate in Utah was quite low by comparison with the rest of the US.accatone wrote:are there psychopath Mormons
So let me get this straight: you're appalled at the way your Indian friend is labelled "a dirty Moroccan", yet you're quite happy to slap all sorts of collective slurs on Europeans as a whole?bunuelian wrote:The Europeans find it so easy to talk about "Americans" and our limitations, all because they want desperately to ignore their own hideous problems. A dear friend of mine is Indian and lives in the Netherlands, where he's treated on a daily basis like a "dirty Moroccan" despite the fact that he's got a PhD and is a brilliant, profoundly compassionate human being. Europe's self satisfaction at having suffered through the War and the ensuing guilt smacks entirely of the same racist smut that engendered the twentieth century. It's not a mere "insular" attitude, it's a genuine hate for different cultures and people.
=D>Zazou dans le Metro wrote:
You're so right. I just watched Night and Fog again and my, what a smug little piece that is! It simply reeks of self satisfaction. It can only be matched by my wife's glee at having all of her grandparents die in labour camps, a fact that we celebrate on a daily basis with copious quantities of Saint Emilion and stuffing foie gras before we go out on the town looking for some old Mahgrebians to humiliate and torment.
I think the French produce plenty of detritus, e.g. the Les Bronzés series, Asterix and Bienvenue Chez Les Ch'tis--all massively successful and entertaining (well, maybe not Asterix) trash.Kinsayder wrote:Yeah, but the French import their trash from America, particularly when they go to the movies (last year's top grossers in France were Ratatouille, Spider-Man 3, Harry Potter, Pirates of the Caribbean and Shrek). It's an attitude that Tavernier mocks in L'Appât. The US suck up their own cinematic product and barely look at foreign films. That's all that BT means by insular.Barmy wrote:Could Bert just STFU and stop blaming "American insularity". The French like trash no less than we do
Absolutely - though in general this doesn't get exported, thus perpetuating the myth that French cinema is all about chin-stroking beret-wearers discussing philosophy, or at least has an altogether higher collective IQ than its English-speaking counterpart.Barmy wrote:I think the French produce plenty of detritus, e.g. the Les Bronzés series, Asterix and Bienvenue Chez Les Ch'tis--all massively successful and entertaining (well, maybe not Asterix) trash.
A Jurassic Park-beating behemoth in France that barely lasted a fortnight in British cinemas - and I'm quite surprised it opened at all!Barmy wrote:And then there's Les Visiteurs...
Living in Quebec, we get a good share of mainstream French cinema screened here often with English subtitles. Aside from the blockbusters above, France also has a healthy amount of standard rom-com fare and tepid dramas. Though, I have to admit, I have a huge soft spot for the former.MichaelB wrote:Absolutely - though in general this doesn't get exported, thus perpetuating the myth that French cinema is all about chin-stroking beret-wearers discussing philosophy, or at least has an altogether higher collective IQ than its English-speaking counterpart.Barmy wrote:I think the French produce plenty of detritus, e.g. the Les Bronzés series, Asterix and Bienvenue Chez Les Ch'tis--all massively successful and entertaining (well, maybe not Asterix) trash.
Sorry for this silly misconception Domino - Mormons or Utha is really not on my "map" so lord forgive!!! But i do know someone connected somehow to Utha - Jeff Hornacek…silly again - sorry!domino harvey wrote:Mormons are inherently non-violent, what a silly misconception
Uh...because he didn't expect his reaction to be labeled as "xenophobic". Obviously to make some blanket condemnation is inane but I'm assuming what bunuelian is getting at is that the presumed notions of European Enlightenment that are taken as a given even amongst certain intellectuals should not be and Europe's cultural climate is just as justifiably worth serious scrutiny as that of the US.domino harvey wrote:I don't understand why a regular poster here like bunuelian thought we were gonna be okay with xenophobic reactions to European culture.
Not to prolong this too much but I just wanted to add Ma Femme Est Une Actrice (makes you long for the complex characters of a Richard Curtis film!) and Ils (makes you long for the Michael Haneke remake!) are topping my list for worst films of the decade so far.Barmy wrote:I think the French produce plenty of detritus.
domino harvey wrote:I don't understand why a regular poster here like bunuelian thought we were gonna be okay with xenophobic reactions to European culture.Zazou dans le Metro wrote:I just watched Night and Fog again and my, what a smug little piece that is! It simply reeks of self satisfaction. It can only be matched by my wife's glee at having all of her grandparents die in labour camps, a fact that we celebrate on a daily basis with copious quantities of Saint Emilion and stuffing foie gras before we go out on the town looking for some old Mahgrebians to humiliate and torment.
Plus, who fucking cares if you and your implied alliance are "okay" with someone's perspective?John Cope wrote:Uh...because he didn't expect his reaction to be labeled as "xenophobic".