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Sissies, Pansies, Fairies, and Other Exotic Fruits
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:24 pm
by Matt
I'm putting together a presentation on Great Sissies of the 1930s Cinema, so I want to appeal to the group brain for ideas for clips to include in this presentation. What are your favorite "pansy" scenes of the 1930s? Scenes featuring Franklin Pangborn, Eric Blore, or Edward Everett Horton are ideal, but I'm also looking for scenes featuring other actors. Bonus points if the actor is wearing a small mustache and/or a carnation in his lapel.
And yes, this is a serious request, and no, this is not an occasion for arguing issues of representation or making unwise jokes.
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:37 pm
by domino harvey
It's borderline with your timeframe, but 1929's otherwise worthless Bulldog Drummond features Claude Allister (better known perhaps from Monte Carlo) as the tough-guy's effeminate foppy pal whose numerous attempts to keep up with his masculine pal would seem to fit your presentation's requirements perfectly
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:47 pm
by Narshty
James Cagney's tailor in
The Public Enemy.
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:29 pm
by Morgan Creek
The park bench scene with Jack Buchanan and the hairdresser in Monte Carlo.
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:38 pm
by Shrew
My Man Godfrey.
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:56 pm
by ltfontaine
I suspect you’re focusing on Hollywood films, but in Ozu’s Walk Cheerfully (1930), Saito Tatsuo shows up in a pool hall sporting a small mustache, eye makeup, a cute little hat and carrying a tiny dog. There may be a carnation involved, I don't recall.
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:02 pm
by Michael
The dresser in The Broadway Melody. It's a 1929 film though.
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:09 pm
by HerrSchreck
Ernest Thesiger, of course... the elephant in the room I guess..
Keep your eyes all over von Sternberg's pics-- unusual stuff like the dwarf in Empress, though not neccessarily pansyish.
There's an outwardly queer character in Hotel du Nord, but that's 30's Carne ("Oh I didn't recognize you with a woman!").
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:15 pm
by Matt
You guys are great. Keep 'em coming. Examples from non-Hollywood films are welcome, especially if, like the Ozu and the Carné, they demonstrate a clear stereotype. I was already planning on including the "invert" character from La Règle du jeu.
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:17 pm
by Jonathan S
Cukor's
Our Betters (1933) - the hilarious final sequence with the queeny dance instructor named Ernest (Tyrell Davis).
As dglink on imdb writes:
Ernest is not only dressed like a dandified pouffe, but he has thickly rouged lips that form a rosebud beneath his tiny clipped mustache. His broad effeminate mannerisms would embarrass a drag queen, and perceptive viewers can smell the lavender perfume that reeks from the screen.
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:25 pm
by HypnoHelioStaticStasis
I'm gonna kick myself for not remembering this guy's name, but the mark (con target) in Trouble in Paradise. A wonderful, thoroughly sissified performance.
In case your unsure of who I mean, he was Astaire's second banana in Top Hat.
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:29 pm
by jesus the mexican boi
You may have already seen this, but Mark Rappaport's film THE SILVER SCREEN: COLOR ME LAVENDER has plenty of examples of Pangborn, Horton and others in effeminate roles. Presumably there's a list of the clips' sources in the end credits.
It's also available for instant viewing on Netflix.
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:34 pm
by Morgan Creek
Rex O'Malley's Gaston in Camille.
And you might have a look at Vito Russo's Celluloid Closet (the book and film versions) for other examples.
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:49 pm
by myrnaloyisdope
There's the scene in Wonder Bar, where one guy cuts in on a couple dancing, but instead of dancing with the girl he dances with the guy.
There's also the gay bar in Call Me Savage.
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:50 pm
by fiddlesticks
HypnoHelioStaticStasis wrote:I'm gonna kick myself for not remembering this guy's name, but the mark (con target) in Trouble in Paradise. A wonderful, thoroughly sissified performance.
Edward Everett Horton.
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:58 pm
by Jonathan S
There's a wonderful Pangborn moment in Stahl's Only Yesterday where he arrives at a party with his latest conquest, telling the hostess: "The name doesn't matter very much - but he's very thirsty!"
And don't forget Eric Blore in The Gay Divorce: "I have an unnatural passion for rocks!"
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:28 pm
by Rufus T. Firefly
Rolfe Sedan is another dapperly dressed moustachioed prissy actor who often wore a carnation, but I'm damned if I can think of a film to get a clip from. Can't even find a decent picture from his heyday.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:40 pm
by Matt
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Rolfe Sedan is another dapperly dressed moustachioed prissy actor who often wore a carnation, but I'm damned if I can think of a film to get a clip from. Can't even find a decent picture from his heyday.
Bluebeard's Eighth Wife would be perfect since he plays a department store floorwalker, but it's one of those Lubitsch pictures maddeningly unavailable on DVD.
The Celluloid Closet and
Screened Out are being very helpful to me, but they aren't comprehensive. For example, there's a wonderful moment in
Gold Diggers of 1937 that features a split-second shot of the perfect pansy, but it's too brief (or too obscure) to rate a mention in the books.
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:03 pm
by jesus the mexican boi
Not the moustachioed pansy, but Eddy Hart in a bit role as the queer prison cook (Turkey!) in Rowland Brown's HELL'S HIGHWAY (1932) almost steals the show.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:50 am
by Jonathan S
Matt wrote:For example, there's a wonderful moment in Gold Diggers of 1937 that features a split-second shot of the perfect pansy, but it's too brief (or too obscure) to rate a mention in the books.
I haven't seen that film for ages but I suspect it's the shot of the great gay/drag cabaret artist Ray Bourbon. It's mentioned on the website devoted to him.
http://www.coolcatdaddy.com/bourbon-filmography.html
Bourbon was a big name on the cabaret circuit but made very few film appearances. If you look above the reference to
Gold Diggers of 1937 you'll see an entry on the 1934 RKO short
Hip Zip Hooray! in which he has a proper supporting role as a gay designer of ladies underwear. The owner of the Bourbon site had never even heard of this film until I sent him a copy of the video recording I made nearly 30 years ago. The film isn't listed on imdb.
Fortunately, Bourbon made many recordings (on independent labels) of his witty and very risque songs, full of gay double-entendres. I was amazed to discover that Robert Mitchum, of all people, wrote the lyrics for some of them before his film career took off (mentioned in Lee Server's biography of Mitch).
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:06 am
by Sloper
Don't forget Donald Meek (right name?) in Stagecoach.
Also, slightly darker example, the guy with the weak stomach in I Am A Fugitive From A Chain Gang - the one who gets slapped around and then, um, dies.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:01 pm
by Tommaso
Matt wrote:Bluebeard's Eighth Wife would be perfect since he plays a department store floorwalker, but it's one of those Lubitsch pictures maddeningly unavailable on DVD.
Try
Germany or
Spain.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:59 pm
by GringoTex
In Lubitsch's Monte Carlo, Jack Buchanan's Count Rudolph Falliere pretends sissy to gain Jeanette MacDonald's trust by transforming himself into "Rudy the Hairdresser." It's the first Hollywood movie I know of that addresses the fag hag phenomenon.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:03 pm
by HerrSchreck
Sloper wrote:Don't forget Donald Meek (right name?) in Stagecoach.
Also, slightly darker example, the guy with the weak stomach in I Am A Fugitive From A Chain Gang - the one who gets slapped around and then, um, dies.
-- I haven't pulled the film out in a while, but I don't remember that guy as being tagged gay in the text. What makes you say he is?
Don't forget, of course (I assume this isn't limited to men)
Madchen en Uniform, Leontine Sagan's masterpiece from the early German sound era about boarding school girls.
Brooksie-- although this was late 20's-- appeared in two german silents (
Pandora &
Diary) which both featured lesbians.
Josephine-Joseph in
Freaks would be an interesting, undefinable oddity in any discussion of sexuality in 30's cinema.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:48 pm
by GaryC
Ferdinand Gottschalk in Female (1933) - except he gets an entirely gratuitous scene where he appears to be coming on to a woman. Presumably that means that he isn't gay, surely not, so as to appease local censor boards.