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Interviewing film professionals

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:02 pm
by thirtyframesasecond
Matt suggested I post this query here.

I'm undertaking the BFI postgrad course in film journalism and for the interviewing module, I'm required to find an interviewee who's an existing film professional. Doesn't have to be a director, just someone with a pivotal position - and the purpose is to identify strengths/weaknesses in my interviewing techniques I suppose. Anyway, the question: for someone with no existing contacts, what's the best means of trying to obtain an interview with someone, whether it be a film-maker, scriptwriter, editor, whoever?

Re: Interviewing film professionals

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:13 pm
by Antoine Doinel
Not to be a Debbie Downer about this, but I would think it's going to be difficult convince someone with a pivotal position in the industry to spend time on a interview that is - and correct me if I'm wrong - a practice run.

Re: Interviewing film professionals

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:42 pm
by JonathanM
Interviewing technique is something that comes with age and experience.

If al the 'knowledge' you have at the moment comes from academic how-to classes then I'd suggest diving in and getting your feet wet. Interviewing is an art that improves with experience and age. The best way is probably to approach people directly or hang out at smaller film festivals and then pitch your stuff to magazines and websites. Journalism is as much about paying one's dues as it is about acquiring skills.

The more people you interview the better because part of the key to being a decent journalist is having a web of contacts and if you can interview a few up and coming directors or writers or even DPs then you'll be in good shape for a few years down the line.

Re: Interviewing film professionals

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:50 pm
by skuhn8
I understand this guy is fairly approachable for interviews and general discussion.

Re: Interviewing film professionals

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:57 pm
by thirtyframesasecond
I was being a little overdramatic with the term "pivotal". I'm not expecting Mike Leigh or anyone to agree to an interview for an academic assignment. But hopefully someone with a role in the industry whose work I could familiarise myself with (of any description) might be willing. My only problem is how to find out who to approach - PR companies, film distributors (for the inevitable press junkets and so on) etc?

Re: Interviewing film professionals

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:48 pm
by AWA
As someone who has, quite literally more or less, conned their way into several interviews with different people just to get some of my own questions answered, I feel I should give you some advice. I've been able to use my connections at a local radio station to get to interview some influences of mine to develop my own film eduction directly from the horse's mouth, as it were.

First of all, do not plan to pitch your interview that way - tell them it is going to be for something, like a campus / community radio program feature or a newspaper article or something. And then try to organize the means to do that with the finished results if possible so that you won't be wasting their time (and it's always good to get published or broadcast for resume padding purposes if you're an aspiring journalist).

Second, pay the dough to get an IMDBPro account - the contact info for PR, agents, management, etc is all there for each individual... some is a little more complicated than others, of course, but generally they're receptive to requests, especially if you present yourself professionally and in a business like manner as though you do this normally.

Third, target someone who has a reason to be doing press at the moment, like a new film or book or something out. And target someone a little more independent.

Fourth, for my own recommendation, I would suggest contact cinematographer Gordon Willis, who is more or less retired these days and content to talk with anyone willing to listen. Make sure you do your homework beforehand, as he appreciates educated questions. The guy is a master and absolute legend in his trade and is far more accessible than some directors and acting talents.
For a secondary shot, you might want to try Charlie Kaufman (note: do NOT assume he doesn't do any interviews! He hates that). He's been doing a lot of press for Synecdoche (although clearly he hates doing it) and they have been having him do college press as well.

Good luck!

Re: Interviewing film professionals

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:55 pm
by MichaelB
Homework is vital for all interviews, unless you want to waste your time and theirs.

Or, worse, end up the butt of an evil practical joke - sadly, Guy Maddin wouldn't tell me the name of the interviewer, but when I interviewed him he told me about dealing with a journalist who clearly hadn't seen My Winnipeg, but pretended that he had. So Maddin wound him up a treat, describing all sorts of things that weren't in the film, most of which presumably (and hopefully) found their way into the finished piece.

I've turned down interview opportunities because I didn't realistically have enough time to prepare - which was a shame, as they were John Sayles and Krzysztof Zanussi, both of whom I'd loved to have talked to under different circumstances. But I'd rather not do it at all if I can't do it to the best of my ability.

Re: Interviewing film professionals

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:09 am
by a.khan
Thirtyframesasecond, PM me. I go to a film school that has active industry professionals as faculty. I might, at least, be able to put you in touch with some of them.

Re: Interviewing film professionals

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:24 am
by ellipsis7
I've facilitated several masterclasses with the likes of Kiarostami, Salles, Schrader etc., and I suppose the best advice is prepare, be to the point, and be patient, sensitive to the flow of the conversation and where it can be led, and certainly pursue no agenda...

Re: Interviewing film professionals

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:32 pm
by HarryLong
Be aware, too, that not all professionals will be granting you decent amounts of time. They may have busy schedules or not be particularly keen on being interviewed. I always ask at the start of the phone call (given I live in the boonies, my interviews with professionals have near;y always been by phone) how much time they've allotted for me. You can thus make sure your most imprtant questions get asked first if they've only got, say, 30 minutes (or worse: 15) to spare. An hour is a lovely luxury.
And you probably don't want to go much over an hour ... because you're the one who'll have the drudgery of transcribing it afterward.

Re: Interviewing film professionals

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:12 pm
by Lemmy Caution
That last part about transcribing got me to wondering about email interviews. Seems like it might work nicely if you could ask some challenging, probing questions in email, and then hopefully be able to follow that up and get further info via telephone.

Re: Interviewing film professionals

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:39 pm
by milk114
How do email interviews work? Do you typically send a list of questions, get responses, then send more questions that follow up to the responses? When sending the follow-ups do you include the initial question/response as reference? If you publish an interview done via email, do you edit the questions/responses for flow? Same thing if you were to follow up via a phone interview?

This is an area of journalism and scholarship that I've never had experience (other than crappy college course assignments that start with "interview a local..." but never explain the process). So, I have always been curious.

Re: Interviewing film professionals

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:13 pm
by thirtyframesasecond
Well, I have the opportunity to interview via email the editor of a fairly well known UK film magazine (not Sight and Sound but an indie magazine nevertheless) - obviously you won't have the verbal flow and so on you'd have from a face to face discussion but hopefully it'll work.
Lemmy Caution wrote:That last part about transcribing got me to wondering about email interviews. Seems like it might work nicely if you could ask some challenging, probing questions in email, and then hopefully be able to follow that up and get further info via telephone.

Re: Interviewing film professionals

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:12 pm
by MichaelB
milk114 wrote:How do email interviews work? Do you typically send a list of questions, get responses, then send more questions that follow up to the responses? When sending the follow-ups do you include the initial question/response as reference?
Email interviews vary, just as phone and face-to-face ones do. Guy Maddin is the only person I've interviewed on separate occasions via email and phone, and the resulting pieces read quite differently. For the email one (Vertigo, Spring 2004, published online here), I deliberately (over-)wrote the questions in an absurdly florid style, hoping that he'd respond in kind. He did, with a vengeance!

In that particular case I sent him an initial question, by way of testing the water, then half a dozen in a single clump, and then we had a bit of email back-and-forth to tidy things up. By contrast, the last telephone interview (Sight & Sound, last summer, not available online) was much more of a friendly chat, and there was no follow-up - I'm sure that wouldn't have been a problem, but I knew that I had exactly what I wanted when I hung up. (Much more than I needed, in fact, as the commission was 800 words versus Vertigo's 2,500. Even then, the full phone transcript was 4,000 words, so there was a lot of sometimes quite painful cutting!).

Perhaps the most logistically challenging email interview I've done was with Andrzej Wajda in 2007 (published online here). There, I was limited to twelve questions, and they all had to be asked in one go. (He was in post-production on Katyn, and very busy, though keen to talk to S&S as the mag had been very supportive of him in the past, especially in the historically/politically crucial late 1970s/early 1980s period). A further complication is that he doesn't speak English, so my approach to devising the questions was pretty much the exact opposite of the one with Maddin: knowing that they'd have to be translated, I went for maximum clarity and simplicity. (I also cheated outrageously, I have to admit, sometimes fusing two or three distinct questions into a clump and passing it off as one!).

Originally, the questions were going to be translated at Wajda's end, but when my friend Kamila offered to help we decided to do it together. In the end, she did far more than mere translation: she also watched lots of unsubtitled interviews on my Polish DVDs, and researched printed interviews in Polish publications, feeding me tons of useful stuff that would have been off-limits otherwise - so I insisted on her taking co-writing credit and half the fee.

Wajda took a couple of months to reply, but we couldn't have been happier with the results (I still treasure his letter of apology for the delay: Poles are famously polite, but this was ridiculous!). Kamila then translated the answers literally into English, I rewrote and edited, and she double-checked my version against the Polish original to ensure that I hadn't inadvertently distorted anything. Finally, I wrote an intro (having finally seen Katyn in the interim), and that's what got published. (Or rather, there was a further sub-editing stage, but the piece was out of my hands by then!)

Other recent email interviews were with Jan Svankmajer (Vertigo, Spring 2007, published online here) and Tony Gatlif (S&S, mid-2007, not available online), though in those cases I just sent questions in English and got replies in English - someone else did the translations at their end. I can't remember much about those two, which suggests that they went entirely smoothly - though in both cases I had to send questions in one go, with no follow-up.
If you publish an interview done via email, do you edit the questions/responses for flow? Same thing if you were to follow up via a phone interview?
Yes - this is pretty much unavoidable in print journalism, because you're usually given a word count upfront. This will also dictate the depth of the questions: with Gatlif I knew that the piece would be very short (500 words, I think, maybe even less), so the questions were simple one-liners. With Wajda, I had five times as much space, so could be more expansive (as could he!). Even then, I still had to cut about a third, though this was less painful than you might imagine - he gave the interview in summer 2007, and it wasn't published until May 2008 (Katyn's British premiere and a BFI Southbank retrospective were announced during the editing stage, so delaying it made a lot of sense), by which time a splendidly splenetic rant about the Kaczynski twins had become irrelevant since the intervening Polish general election booted one of them out of office and severely clipped the other one's wings.

Actually, here's a Criterion Forums exclusive: this was the other Wajda response that I removed in its entirety, though it's probably of more interest round these parts than it would be to the average S&S reader!
In the 1980s, you sounded ambivalent about the video revolution, saying that it ruined the communal experience of cinema, but that it was important because it allowed access to work outside "the official programme". Today, the DVD revolution allows reasonably high-quality copies to circulate more widely, even beyond national borders. Although your films are barely distributed on DVD in Britain, they are widely available in Poland, in most cases with optional English subtitles. Given the lack of theatrical distribution (Korczak was the last of your films to open commercially in Britain, and the UK distribution rights to most of your older films have expired) do you think DVD offers them a valuable new lease of life?

In 1984, under martial law, I met somebody who told me that he paid the most expensive ticket to see Man of Iron. I was surprised, because I remembered that according to Lenin's famous slogan 'cinema is the most important of all arts', the price of a cinema ticket was around the price of a box of matches. But what happened was that my film was secretly copied onto a VHS and shown around private houses. One of such illegal meetings was suddenly visited by a police [Milicja at that time], they arrested everybody and they only let them go after paying a high penalty.

What change took place in the last few years? The costs of film distribution went up significantly and releasing films in cinemas – especially the low budget ones, often equals the costs of film's production. Who in Britain is then going to risk showing on a big screen a film by an old Polish director, even if it was some kind of a political pornography. I know that my films exist on DVD but it is not the same as seeing them in cinema. Sitting alone in front of a TV, one cannot share emotions on a scale of a social revolution – this is good only for the football fans. A cinema full of viewers, who expect to see a film that will become their voice it is something worth living for to the Polish director, especially if the same audience gets up from their seats and sings the national hymn at the end of the film, as it happened on the premiere of Man of Iron in Gdynia in 1981.

(NB: That was Kamila's literal translation - I ditched this passage before my rewrite. And in case Kamila or a prospective employer of hers is reading this, her written English is normally much better: I specifically asked her to stick close to the structure and style of the original Polish!)

Re: Interviewing film professionals

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:19 am
by ellipsis7
Fascinating, Michael... Yes, often you have to be careful not to get lost in translation in any way... For the Kiarostami prep I read all the previous interviews I could lay my hands on as well as watching the films multiple times (in 2001 on VHS)...The most substantial body of material was published by Cahiers du Cinema in a book of Entretiens etc. (since expanded and updated) which I read in French, double checking with a French colleague on certain passages for precise meaning... Based on this I wrote a slim introductory book for the Masterclass participants which AK was delighted with, when he saw it... Masterclass was then conducted with an Iranian co-facilitator (an US based film academic) acting as conduit and enabler... I put my questions in English (AK understands and speaks English privately, but only goes on the record publicly in Farsi), if AK did not pick up initially they were translated into Farsi, and he then answered at length in Farsi... The answers were then immediately translated into English, with AK listening, and often adding further comment in Farsi, again translated into English... Thus the conversation flowed quite well and very productively... It was taped and the English version transcribed, approved in print by AK by post and e-mail, and published as a paper a year later...

Re: Interviewing film professionals

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:51 am
by Jonathan S
The nicest person I ever interviewed was Derek Jarman, who even worked the cassette recorder for me. The most unpleasant was a minor TV writer who was so incensed with my (mild) criticisms of his work during our phone interview that he rang me again at midnight and withdrew permission for any of his comments to be published (though mine were of course!) It's probably just as well I never got to interview Dirk Bogarde, as I understand he was similarly displeased with an article I wrote about him.

I guess the obvious moral is: interview people whose work you admire, if possible.

Re: Interviewing film professionals

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 11:02 am
by MichaelB
Jonathan S wrote:It's probably just as well I never got to interview Dirk Bogarde, as I understand he was similarly displeased with an article I wrote about him.
There was a notorious interview with Bogarde published in Time Out circa 1982/83 that I remember vividly at the time because it was so startling. Basically, Bogarde effs and blinds all the time, in the tacit understanding that it would all be edited out in the final version. Only this time it wasn't, so the interview just came across as a lengthy foul-mouthed rant - though possibly not as foul-mouthed as Bogarde's reaction after he saw it in print!

(I can be reasonably precise about the date because Joseph Losey was still alive - he was interviewed not long afterwards, possibly by the same guy, and made it clear that Bogarde was Not Happy).
I guess the obvious moral is: interview people whose work you admire, if possible.
I've never had an unpleasant encounter, but I think I've exclusively tackled people whose work I already admire. It's hard to recall the nicest specifically - I always enjoy talking to Guy Maddin (three formal interviews, three private social functions), Ken Loach's producer Rebecca O'Brien was terrific fun (I hosted a masterclass she did last summer) and Armando Iannucci was hysterical (I was pretty much redundant, to be honest).

But the interview I remember most fondly, because it turned out so much better than I'd dreaded, was a live on-stage one with Michael Kuhn, former head of Polygram Filmed Entertainment, who from roughly 1994-98 was arguably the single most powerful individual in the entire history of the British film industry. Naturally, I was nervous - and, as it turned out, so was he: executives don't often get live grillings in front of paying audiences! And what complicated matters was that we arranged to meet about 20 minutes in advance, but he was delayed on the Tube, so in the end we had about five minutes before we were ushered on stage.

To say I was petrified is an understatement - we hadn't really had time to discuss anything much in advance besides basic pleasantries - so I started out by deliberately feeding him questions that I knew would trigger anecdotes from his book 'One Hundred Films and a Funeral' (hastily purchased and read 48 hours beforehand). This in turn indicated to him that I'd read it, thus hopefully indicating that he was in safe hands, and after a wobbly first couple of minutes it went sensationally well. When the really unprintable anecdotes about various extremely senior people in the British film industry started, I guessed he was completely relaxed, and from then on it was a breeze.

(Stating the obvious, live interviews are the scariest, and ones in front of a paying audience all the more so, because you're under a certain amount of pressure to deliver value for money. And if the interviewee isn't that bothered... well, I haven't had to deal with that yet, but there's always a first time!)

Re: Interviewing film professionals

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:39 pm
by Jonathan S
Robert Mitchum had a notorious reputation for being difficult to interview. It wasn't entirely justified but it certainly was in a 1986 BBC lunchtime show I recorded where he is interviewed at Cannes by a visibly nervous male presenter. Some highlights:

Interviewer: So we're never likely to get the autobiography?
Mitchum: I should think not. No. Why?
Interviewer: I think a lot of people would like to share in the varied life you've had.
Mitchum (witheringly): Would they really?
Interviewer: I believe so.
Mitchum: Good luck to them.
Interviewer: I'm sure I read somewhere that you didn't think your early movies were very good.
Mitchum: Really?
Interviewer: What's the next project? What are you looking forward to doing?
Mitchum: My principal consideration right now is to get my laundry done.
(Long silence.)
Interviewer: And after?
Mitchum: Go home. Because when one travels, laundry tends to swell up, you know. I like to pack flat so I can get it all back in the bag.
Interviewer: So at this stage in your career, the most pressing problem you have is where to get your laundry done?
Mitchum: Exactly. Always has been.

Re: Interviewing film professionals

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:03 pm
by MichaelB
And here's the legendary Michael Parkinson-Meg Ryan encounter.

Prepare to cringe.