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justeleblanc · #151 Post by **justeleblanc** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:45 pm

jaredsap wrote:
justeleblanc wrote:eyes wide shut is 2 discs? that makes no sense.
Why doesn't it make sense?

I just don't know what they would fill the second disc with? Maybe the second disc is the documentary narrated by Cruise.

tavernier · #152 Post by **tavernier** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:59 pm

I'm still amazed that this is happening at all, since Jan Harlan once insisted that there will never be "special editions" of Kubrick's films on DVD because Stanley never wanted there to be such things. Period. End of story.

I guess Kubrick's given his blessings from beyond the grave.

Highway 61 · #153 Post by **Highway 61** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:06 pm

justeleblanc wrote:I just don't know what they would fill the second disc with? Maybe the second disc is the documentary narrated by Cruise.

I would love to see features about the production design, the censorship, the music, the replacement of Keitel and Leigh, the initial plan to cast Steve Martin in Cruise's role, etc. There's dozens of topics to cover, but more realistically, we'll probably just get both the censored and uncensored versions on two discs.

The big question is why leave out Barry Lyndon and Lolita? Sure they're less popular, but that's all the more reason to add them to the boxset, raise the price, and make more profit from customers only interested in The Shining and ACO. It's seems like both Warner and the fans lose on this one.

#154 Post by **domino harvey** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:07 pm

tavernier wrote:I guess Kubrick's given his blessings from beyond the grave.

he's obviously left clear instructions for rephrasing his previous positions over and over until they align perfectly with the studio's.

Highway 61 · #155 Post by **Highway 61** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:12 pm

tavernier wrote:I'm still amazed that this is happening at all, since Jan Harlan once insisted that there will never be "special editions" of Kubrick's films on DVD because Stanley never wanted there to be such things. Period. End of story.

I guess Kubrick's given his blessings from beyond the grave.

Well, I'm sure Stanley wouldn't want his grandkids to ride anything but a chauffeured limousine to school. It's only a matter of time before the tetra-dip with the Strangelove pie fight scene, and then, in a good ten or twenty years, Fear and Desire.

tavernier · #156 Post by **tavernier** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:14 pm

domino harvey wrote:
tavernier wrote:I guess Kubrick's given his blessings from beyond the grave.
he's obviously left clear instructions for rephrasing his previous positions over and over until they align perfectly with the studio's.

...and his widow's and brother-in-law's.

#157 Post by **Matt** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:14 pm

Highway 61 wrote:The big question is why leave out Barry Lyndon and Lolita? Sure they're less popular, but that's all the more reason to add them to the boxset, raise the price, and make more profit from customers only interested in The Shining and ACO. It's seems like both Warner and the fans lose on this one.

Perhaps there was not time to work on Barry Lyndon since I think it was only just fully restored and everything. Can't explain Lolita, especially since this year marks the 45th anniversary of the film. Next year does mark the 50th anniversary of the book's US publication, though, but that's a pretty minor occasion on which to hang a DVD release.

Most likely, Warners just feels that they can't significantly improve on the most recent editions of either film at this time and didn't want to force people to buy the same discs a second time in the new box set.

tavernier · #158 Post by **tavernier** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:15 pm

Matt wrote:Most likely, Warners just feels that they can't significantly improve on the most recent editions of either film at this time and didn't want to force people to buy the same discs a second time in the new box set.

You mean third time, of course.

#159 Post by **Matt** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:23 pm

tavernier wrote:
Matt wrote:Most likely, Warners just feels that they can't significantly improve on the most recent editions of either film at this time and didn't want to force people to buy the same discs a second time in the new box set.
You mean third time, of course.

Film-wise, yes. But in the case of Barry Lyndon at least, the first release was not restored/remastered in any way, so I didn't really count it as the "same" disc.

justeleblanc · #160 Post by **justeleblanc** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:24 pm

I would doubt this would happen given Kubrick's name and what not, but it's possible that Lolita and and Lyndon could be saved for a Controversial Classics box or a Period Piece box.

Again, unlikely, but not out of the question.

#161 Post by **Jeff** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:33 pm

Harlan has been working closely with WB on these for a long time. Warner first announced this was happening over two and a half years ago. As I pointed out at that time, the Kubrick estate has been very forthcoming in recent years, allowing several groups unprecedented access to the Kubrick archives.

We have also known for over a year and a half that Lolita and Barry Lyndon would not be included in this promotion. Full Metal Jacket was originally not going to be part of the deal either since it wasn't getting the two-disc treatment. When I asked George Feltenstein about the omissions in February of 2006, he replied, "It is very likely we will revisit the other Kubrick titles as well in the future." I am sure that it is a combination of lower sales and lack of supplements that has driven their decision, and I'm sure it will be rectified eventually.

justeleblanc · #162 Post by **justeleblanc** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:38 pm

All included:

Warner Home Video have announced the Region 1 DVD release of Warner Home Video Director's Series: Stanley Kubrick Collection on 23rd October 2007. In the works for some time now, the films of Stanley Kubrick have been restored and remastered for this new collection which is expected to feature a large number of both archive and new bonus features. A full press release is yet to be issued, but we do have some preliminary information, prices and even some artwork for youâ€¦

Warner have revealed the following titles due on 23rd Octoberâ€¦

2001: A Space Odyssey (2-Disc Special Edition) - $26.99 SRP
A Clockwork Orange (2-Disc Special Edition) - $26.99 SRP
Eyes Wide Shut (2-Disc Special Edition) - $26.99 SRP
The Shining (2-Disc Special Edition) - $20.97 SRP
Barry Lyndon - $19.97 SRP
Lolita - $19.97 SRP
Stanley Kubrick: A Life in Pictures (Kubrick Collection 2001 Release) - $19.97 SRP

Full Metal Jacket (Deluxe Edition) is also listed but currently only for Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD, though it is listed as part of the complete Warner Home Video Director's Series: Stanley Kubrick Collection which is priced at $79.92 SRP but only includes the Special Edition titles and the A Life in Pictures documentary disc (no Lolita or Barry Lyndon).

Initial specs on the Special Edition titles suggest Widescreen transfers and 5.1 Surround audio only. Please note however full specs and release plans are yet to be confirmed, but are likely to surface soon.

#163 Post by **Jeff** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:46 pm

I'm sure that Lolita and Barry Lyndon are just matching repackaging for now. They are not including them in the box because many people won't want to upgrade just to ditch their snappers. I also wouldn't buy any of this Blu-ray exclusive crap. Blu-ray exclusive=financial suicide.

toiletduck! · #164 Post by **toiletduck!** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:48 pm

The packaging scheme (a "Director's Series" omitting two same day releases) seems convoluted as hell, but after prematurely selling off my entire Kubrick Collection, I'll play along, if only to finally forget those damn snappers.

-Toilet Dcuk

EDIT: And what does this mean for the Barry Lyndon restoration? Are they seriously going to repackage it as a solo release with such a good reason to re-release not far down the pipeline?

kaujot · #165 Post by **kaujot** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:53 pm

So Barry Lyndon IS included?

#166 Post by **Jeff** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:55 pm

kaujot wrote:So Barry Lyndon IS included?

Barry Lyndon and Lolita are not in the box, but are being released as cheap single-discs (presumably simple repackaging) on the same day.

kaujot · #167 Post by **kaujot** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:59 pm

Jeff wrote:
kaujot wrote:So Barry Lyndon IS included?
Barry Lyndon and Lolita are not in the box, but are being released as cheap single-discs (presumably simple repackaging) on the same day.

Well, I need to get them anyway.

justeleblanc · #168 Post by **justeleblanc** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:01 pm

So just to be clear, Strangelove is no longer a Warner title?

tavernier · #169 Post by **tavernier** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:03 pm

justeleblanc wrote:So just to be clear, Strangelove is no longer a Warner title?

Never was... Sony released it on DVD, then let Warner put it in the boxed set.

Luke M · #170 Post by **Luke M** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:06 pm

Barry Lyndon deserves better. It's easily my favorite Kubrick movie.

#171 Post by **Jeff** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:11 pm

Luke M wrote:Barry Lyndon deserves better. It's easily my favorite Kubrick movie.

It's the favorite of a lot of folks around here (comes right after 2001 for me), but it's definitely not a favorite of the general populace. I would venture a guess that it's the worst-selling Kubrick title by a large margin, leaving WB hesitant to pour much into it.

Lino · #172 Post by **Lino** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:13 pm

I'm pretty sure that next year we will see 2xDVD SE for both Lolita and Barry Lyndon. And I'm holding my breath for more surprises, too.

I think it was just a time thing. Maybe they couldn't make it this year and will most certainly rectify that in a year's time or something. But they are giving people the chance to ditch their snappers, which is great.

kaujot · #173 Post by **kaujot** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:13 pm

Jeff wrote:
Luke M wrote:Barry Lyndon deserves better. It's easily my favorite Kubrick movie.
It's the favorite of a lot of folks around here (comes right after 2001 for me), but it's definitely not a favorite of the general populace. I would venture a guess that it's the worst-selling Kubrick title by a large margin, leaving WB hesitant to pour much into it.

I'd be just fine if they stuck a commentary and a restored, anamorphic transfer on a Barry Lyndon DVD. Hell, you can even take out the commentary. Just give me the transfer and a non-snapper case.

Antoine Doinel · #174 Post by **Antoine Doinel** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:22 pm

I guess Warner is not going the same day and date for HD and BluRay for these? Seems odd. It's just as well as I'm waiting for HD/BluRay players to drop in price as the holidays approach and will buy a player and the Kubrick set to break it in.

flyonthewall2983 · Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:24 pm

So, to clear this up, there will be a new Full Metal Jacket disc, but it'll only be part of the box set?

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