The Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans (Werner Herzog, 2009)

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chaddoli · #26 Post by **chaddoli** » Mon May 19, 2008 5:57 am

sidehacker wrote:This movie, however, just sounds like Herzog fulfilling the wishes of drunken fans.

Same thing as Mister Lonely.

Antoine Doinel · #27 Post by **Antoine Doinel** » Thu May 22, 2008 3:14 pm

Here is the subtle Cannes sales poster for the film.

Ferrara hopes those involved with remaking the film "die in Hell."

miless · #28 Post by **miless** » Fri May 23, 2008 5:18 pm

I'd take Herzog over Ferrara anyday (even if Nic Cage is involved).

Cde. · #29 Post by **Cde.** » Sat May 24, 2008 2:52 am

I prefer Herzog, but I like Ferrara too, and he's being screwed over pretty badly here.

kaujot · #30 Post by **kaujot** » Sat May 24, 2008 4:01 am

Why is he being screwed over?

Oedipax · #31 Post by **Oedipax** » Sat May 24, 2008 4:42 am

kaujot wrote:Why is he being screwed over?

Something he created is basically being taken from him without his consent and I'm guessing without him even being compensated financially, if Abel's track record is any indicator. It's not like Bad Lieutenant was based on a book or some third-party screenwriter's script. The only connection between the old film and the new one is Edward R. Pressman.

Slothrop · #32 Post by **Slothrop** » Sat May 24, 2008 8:38 am

The only way this would be any good is if Werner played the Keitel character. Throw in Natasha Kinski jerking him of,f intercut with shots from Aguirre, and you've got something.

Cde. · #33 Post by **Cde.** » Sat May 24, 2008 9:54 am

Oedipax wrote:
kaujot wrote:Why is he being screwed over?
Something he created is basically being taken from him without his consent and I'm guessing without him even being compensated financially, if Abel's track record is any indicator. It's not like Bad Lieutenant was based on a book or some third-party screenwriter's script. The only connection between the old film and the new one is Edward R. Pressman.

Pretty much.

Abel sounds gutted over this.

Darth Lavender · #34 Post by **Darth Lavender** » Sat May 24, 2008 10:15 am

Cde. wrote:
Oedipax wrote:
kaujot wrote:Why is he being screwed over?
Something he created is basically being taken from him without his consent and I'm guessing without him even being compensated financially, if Abel's track record is any indicator. It's not like Bad Lieutenant was based on a book or some third-party screenwriter's script. The only connection between the old film and the new one is Edward R. Pressman.
Pretty much.

Abel sounds gutted over this.

I'm inclined to agree there...
Herzog is one of my top 5 favourite directors ever. Ferrera is maybe in the top 30. But, I'm utterly against the idea of Herzog making this movie without Ferrera's blessing.

Oedipax · #35 Post by **Oedipax** » Sat May 24, 2008 11:57 am

Darth Lavender wrote:But, I'm utterly against the idea of Herzog making this movie without Ferrera's blessing.

It just doesn't make sense, ultimately. As others have said, Bad Lieutenant is Abel Ferrara + Keitel with a heavy dose of Catholic guilt. It's an intensely personal movie that only fully makes sense if you take into account who directed it. In order for Herzog to make any sense of it, and for Nic Cage to be interested in playing the role, I have to assume there will be a huge overhaul to the script, by which point, why even bother keeping the original title? Maybe Ferrara can remake Fitzcarraldo with Brad Pitt or something...

lacritfan · #36 Post by **lacritfan** » Sun May 25, 2008 6:10 am

I'm LMFAO imagining a full frontal Nic Cage, stoned, arms out to the side, teeter tottering and whimpering.

Oedipax wrote:And the hits just keep on coming: apparently Herzog is also co-directing a film with David Lynch!

They buried the lead: "In a separate development, Lynch's Absurda production company has attached Asia Argento and Udo Kier to star with Nick Nolte in Alejandro Jodorowsky's metaphysical gangster movie "King Shot."

chaddoli · #37 Post by **chaddoli** » Sun May 25, 2008 6:30 am

This slight exaggeration needs to stop. Nowhere in these articles does it state there is any "co-directing" going on. From information given, it seems obvious that Lynch's company Absurda is executive producing a Herzog film as well as a Jodorowsky film. Exciting news to be sure, but not exactly something as bazaar as a film by Herzog/Lynch.

In Heaven · #38 Post by **In Heaven** » Sun May 25, 2008 8:41 pm

chaddoli wrote:This slight exaggeration needs to stop. Nowhere in these articles does it state there is any "co-directing" going on. From information given, it seems obvious that Lynch's company Absurda is executive producing a Herzog film as well as a Jodorowsky film. Exciting news to be sure, but not exactly something as bazaar as a film by Herzog/Lynch.

A lot of articles I'm reading say "co-directing."

John Cope · #39 Post by **John Cope** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:43 pm

According to Hollywood Elsewhere...

Defamer's Stu Van Airsdale has spoken to Werner Herzog about his Bad Lieutenant film that will star Nicolas Cage and will shoot in New Orleans for budgetary reasons. It is not, Herzog says, a remake of Abel Ferrara's original but a continuation in a James Bond franchise sense. He also tells Van Airsdale that he has no clue who Ferrara is. Right.

Edit: The direct link to the interview is in the comments, but I'll post it as well.

#40 Post by **domino harvey** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:13 pm

He also tells Van Airsdale that he has no clue who Ferrara is.

I find Herzog's "wacky" antics a lot less charming than most people here do, but I'll admit to laughing pretty hard at this one. =D>

Nothing · #41 Post by **Nothing** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:22 am

Herzog doing a noir about a corrupt white policeman in post-Katrina New Orleans actually sounds pretty good (and the connections with Ferrara's Bad Lieutenant little more than a publicity stunt on the part of the producers...)

MichaelB · #42 Post by **MichaelB** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:40 am

Nothing wrote:Herzog doing a noir about a corrupt white policeman in post-Katrina New Orleans actually sounds pretty good (and the connections with Ferrara's Bad Lieutenant little more than a publicity stunt on the part of the producers...)

I agree, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if the title got changed at some point down the line - especially if all discussion about the film continues to fixate on it.

Purely in terms of environment, post-Katrina New Orleans offers real potential for the man who shot Lessons of Darkness.

moviscop · #43 Post by **moviscop** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:22 pm

I'm honestly shocked. When I heard this for the first time I had a ton of questions and doubts, which I still have. Herzog is absolutely amazing, but he is using Nick Cage, what the hell?

I'm looking forward more to his collaberation with David Lynch in their retelling of a man living out the Oedipus plays. That film will be interesting.

It is titled "My Son, My Son" for now. Here is some information on the film. I'm really looking forward to it.

Faux Hulot · #44 Post by **Faux Hulot** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:16 pm

Herzog speaks to Defamer:

Speaking of which, the original film's director, Abel Ferrara, has vowed to fight this project, and —

Wonderful, yes! Let him fight! He thinks I'm doing a remake.

Have you talked to him?

No. I have no idea who Abel Ferrara is. But let him fight the windmills, like Don Quixote.

Have you heard his comments at all? He says he hopes "these people die in Hell."

That's beautiful!

Murdoch · #45 Post by **Murdoch** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:10 pm

Herzog is the best interviewee ever.

I have to admit, upon this recent news that the film is not an actual remake, I am very excited by this project. Unlike others I am interested to see Cage in the role and hope this film will get him out of his current downhill slide. The setting of New Orleans is great and I greatly look forward to see how Herzog captures the post-Katrina devastation. Plus, Herzog doing noir? Sounds like solid gold.

oldsheperd · #46 Post by **oldsheperd** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:09 pm

Yeah for some reason I can't picture Nic Cage wanking it and saying, "Show me how you suck a man's c&#k!" He's just not as visceral as keitel.

miless · #47 Post by **miless** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:16 pm

it sounds like Keitel is more hands-on.

moviscop · #48 Post by **moviscop** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:15 pm

It isn't a remake. it is "reenvisioning." Herzog is such a funny and strange genius.

there, i said it.

#49 Post by **zedz** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:27 pm

Have you talked to him?

No. I have no idea who Abel Ferrara is. But let him fight the windmills, like Don Quixote.

So does this mean Ferrara will get his own back by remaking Signs of Life?

exte · #50 Post by **exte** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:17 pm

Why did it take until 2008 for a major box office star to throw his weight behind Werner Herzog? I don't get the delay...

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