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#801 Post by davebert »

I guess it's the job of good art to make your head hurt.
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#802 Post by domino harvey »

Maybe I just don't want to live in a world where that's a real review
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#803 Post by fiddlesticks »

domino harvey wrote:That appears to be a joke review, guys
I know when I compare things to the "Bertolucci film 'Red Desert,'" it always cracks everyone up. It's a can't-miss joke.
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#804 Post by domino harvey »

Does Roger Ebert understand film?
By contrast, Riefenstahl's camera is oblivious to one of the most fascinating aspects of the Nuremberg rally, which is how it was organized. Yes, there are overhead shots of vast fields of tents, laid out with mathematical precision. But how did the thousands eat, relieve themselves, prepare their uniforms and weapons and mass up to begin their march through town? We see overhead shots of tens of thousands of Nazis in rigid formation, not a single figure missing, not a single person walking to the sidelines. How long did they have to stand before their moment in the sun? Where did they go and what did they do after marching past Hitler? In a sense, Riefenstahl has told the least interesting part of the story.
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#805 Post by tavernier »

domino harvey wrote:Does Roger Ebert understand film?
By contrast, Riefenstahl's camera is oblivious to one of the most fascinating aspects of the Nuremberg rally, which is how it was organized. Yes, there are overhead shots of vast fields of tents, laid out with mathematical precision. But how did the thousands eat, relieve themselves, prepare their uniforms and weapons and mass up to begin their march through town? We see overhead shots of tens of thousands of Nazis in rigid formation, not a single figure missing, not a single person walking to the sidelines. How long did they have to stand before their moment in the sun? Where did they go and what did they do after marching past Hitler? In a sense, Riefenstahl has told the least interesting part of the story.
But I doubt that anyone not already a Nazi could be swayed by it.
Thanks for that vote of confidence in humanity, Rog.
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#806 Post by Matt »

So, Ebert basically wants Triumph of the Will to be a Frederick Wiseman film.
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#807 Post by davebert »

Triumph of the Mundane.

I bet Hitler could be positively Weinstein-esque in the editing room if a version like that was produced instead.
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#808 Post by Tom Hagen »

This review is problematic in the same way that Ebert's "Great Movies" entry for Birth of a Nation was problematic: it is so self-reflective about the controversial subject matter and the pains of the criticial process that the film itself becomes something of an afterthought.

The quote that Domino pulled really is unbelievable. I doubt that Joseph Goebbels himself would bother sitting through the Nazi version of Woodstock.
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#809 Post by swo17 »

Alas, if only Riefenstahl had made a better film, maybe today there would be more, as Ebert calls them, "true believers."
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#810 Post by Lemmy Caution »

Just to slip back to that Tokyo Story review for a second:
Particularly through the cenema.
Cenema.
Love it!
I'm going to have to start employing that term of art.
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#811 Post by Steven H »

Lemmy Caution wrote:Just to slip back to that Tokyo Story review for a second:
Particularly through the cenema.
Cenema.
Love it!
I'm going to have to start employing that term of art.
Maybe its the missing link between performing and video art? I can only imagine how the church will react, "if you thought Piss Christ was bad, wait til you see c'enema!"

Also, it seems that some of my favorite bad movie reviews lately have referred to movies as "shows". For some reason that always puts a smile on my face.
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#812 Post by miless »

Night at the Roxbury
This movie is way cool......there was nothing wrong with it as far as i can see.....songs went well with it also....best part i like is when they were getting it on for the first time and Steve was doing the ambulance noise...lmao.....so let Imdb know how you feel about this movie and others also.... What i like best about imdb is if i can not remember a movie or a song from a movie it gives all the information i need here at this site......two thumbs up for imdb...Peace out
I really have no idea if this review is for Night at the Roxbury or for imdb itself... either way, it's pretty absurd.
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#813 Post by swo17 »

A few thoughts on Koyaanisqatsi from the IMDb message boards:
cherrypacker wrote:It has been quite a while since I saw this but did it cross anyone else's mind that this film was hypocritical? It showed animosity towards technology, yet illustrated this through the medium of film, a technological achievement of man. As well as this it clearly venerated nature which is also ironic. I'm no environmental warrior, but imagine the pollution caused by flying to locations all around the world. I still found the film thought-provoking, with brilliant images and a fine message but I couldn't respect it entirely, due to the inherent irony.
ginafonyo wrote:I would say it is more arrogant than hypocritical.

Francis Ford Coppola does The National Geographic. Eye candy without the condescending Readers Digestesque text. Walt Disney for ecologists. Some of the editing and juxtapositions were infantile and crass, but then again, crassness, like beauty, is in the eye of the cliche.

It made me sad that pampered menials like Glass, Fricke, Lucas, Ford Coppola and Reggio can only churn out wishy-washy tosh that only states the obvious and is about as relevant as Bono.

A hundred years ago the Czars of Russia surrounded themselves with creeps like that, only they were called Rasputin and the court jesters in those days.

I have watched Koyaanisqatsi/Powaqqatsi tonight for the first time. I'd say that the money spent on this piffle would have been better used putting some shoes on peoples feet.

If Lucas, Ford Coppola, Glass, Fricke and Reggio want to make pictures they should go and scratch on cave walls in a wilderness somewhere.......the faithful are sure to follow. If, on the other hand, money is the objective, they should get a gun and rob people. Using the medium of advertising and psychological manipulation to justify their existence is warped, elitist and scary!

I'd like to see them try and neuro-linguistically programme dirt to grow potatoes and beans. The Koyaanisqatsi crew should get shovels in their hands and try producing something useful for a change instead of paying policemen to force me to do it for them.

Cool.
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#814 Post by Jeff »

Steven H wrote:Also, it seems that some of my favorite bad movie reviews lately have referred to movies as "shows". For some reason that always puts a smile on my face.
For some reason, referring to movies as "shows" has always been a pet peeve of mine. I suppose it's because I think of shows as things you see on Broadway or on television. I realize that it is a relic of the term "movie show," which I think was once common in the midwest. Even the otherwise estimable Glenn Erickson (DVD Savant) uses it regularly. It's fingernails on a chalkboard for me.
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#815 Post by domino harvey »

Let's bring back the practice of calling 'em "flickers"
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#817 Post by colinr0380 »

And he hasn't done his research into the longest title in cinema either! Neither have I but along with Effi Briest it would take some beating to outdo: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Son of the Bride of the Return of the Revenge of the Terror of the Attack of the Evil, Mutant, Alien, Flesh Eating, Hellbound, Zombified Living Dead Part 2: In Shocking 2-D
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#818 Post by mfunk9786 »

Let's get back to the subject at hand. Casey Affleck is most definitely a lead, so it's not fair that he's in the supporting category. Regardless, it's not his fault.
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#819 Post by swo17 »

it's a sprawling story that sort of quietly and confidently unravels over almost 2 hours and 45 minutes.
Wow, this must be the longest film ever made!
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#820 Post by Haggai »

Jeff wrote:For some reason, referring to movies as "shows" has always been a pet peeve of mine. I suppose it's because I think of shows as things you see on Broadway or on television. I realize that it is a relic of the term "movie show," which I think was once common in the midwest. Even the otherwise estimable Glenn Erickson (DVD Savant) uses it regularly. It's fingernails on a chalkboard for me.
Wasn't that term pretty common in Hollywood itself, going all the way back to before TV? Although now that I think of it, interviews with old-time Hollywood people tend to involve the word "picture" more than any other single term for a movie.
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#821 Post by Steven H »

IMDB.com on Titanic:
Tommy wrote:One of The Best Movies At All The Times there are great scents at this movie and really this is more than a movie.

it has an excellent score and song.they are so deep.

also titanic has won 11 Oscars in 1998 Leo and Kate played very good at this movie.

also Kate Winslet is very beautiful actress.

the start and end of this film was very good.

the scent of jack's death was so deep.

in my idea 14 Oscars nominations and 11 wining was worthy for titanic.

absolutely it was the best movie of James Cameroons.
The writer is Iranian, but even taking the language barrier into consideration...
Boyo-2 wrote:This movie re-wrote film history in every way. No one cares what anyone thinks about this movie, because it transcends criticism. Every flaw in the movie is easily overcome by the many amazing things the movie has going for it. It is an extremely beautiful movie, and I doubt many of us will see anything like it again. I've seen it more times than I care to count, and I still become transfixed every time, with a feeling which is hard to describe. One for the ages.
theriaasucks wrote:Watch the movie with an open mind, and you will not be disappointed. Many people watch the movie with a closed mind expecting it to be "gay", and find excuses while watching it.
the IMDB Titanic reviews are a gold mine. There are so many greats I didn't post over there if you're looking for a laugh.
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#822 Post by Magic Hate Ball »

swo17 wrote:
it's a sprawling story that sort of quietly and confidently unravels over almost 2 hours and 45 minutes.
Wow, this must be the longest film ever made!
My boyfriend's like this. When I took him to see 2001 he asked how long it was. I told him it was something like two and a half hours. He slumped down in his seat and went "ugh".
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#823 Post by swo17 »

At a recent dinner with my parents, my mother suggested that Ten Commandments was "probably the longest film ever made." I then mentioned that I was in the middle of watching Shoah, a 9 1/2 hour documentary about the Holocaust. To which she replied, "Well, Ten Commandments is still pretty long."

Then again, this is coming from a woman who the last movie she got really excited about was The Sixth Sense...about four years after it came out. (Bless her soul.)
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#824 Post by colinr0380 »

Fat Girl surprisingly has mostly well thought out comments on the imdb, but there was this one by "taniav" from Toronto:
What is wrong with everyone???? The actress in this movie was only twelve!! How could have a studio have released this movie, or any actor have worked in it is beyond me. I really doubt any of them will work again, who would hire them? The director should be arrested for exploiting children.

I feel sorry for people who would watch this.

Just because a movie is critically acclaimed does not mean its good. Directors get knighted as artists when in fact its just a way of bringing attention to their work and making more money off young people who need something to look up to. There are good movies out there but please don't believe that because someone has enough money to make the lame movie they want, that they are any good (movie critics are the lowest strata of society). i promise you these exploitive directors probably all started out in pornos inorder to support their drug habits. Why would we watch their movies and promote whats noxious in this world ?
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#825 Post by tavernier »

There's at least one grain of truth in that diatribe:
(movie critics are the lowest strata of society)
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