450 Bottle Rocket

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#26 Post by kaujot »

I assumed the short would be on it, but it's nice to have actual confirmation.
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#27 Post by LightBulbFilm »

Do you think they'll throw some of the commericals he directed on this?
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#28 Post by macaca »

LightBulbFilm wrote:Do you think they'll throw some of the commericals he directed on this?
no. although im pretty sure theyll throw the american express commerical on the darjeeling limited dvd. im pretty sure it was filmed around the same time as hotel chevalier.
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#29 Post by mfunk9786 »

Criterion wrote:- Commentary by director/co-writer Anderson and co-writer/star Owen Wilson
- PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by executive producer James L. Brooks, an appreciation by Martin Scorsese
They could package this in a brown paper bag and I'd still be excited about this release.
Criterion wrote:and original artwork by Ian Dingman
Does this include the cover? It looks Eric Anderson-ish, but it would explain why it looks so crappy, as opposed to his other work.
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#30 Post by Narshty »

After Tenenbaums, this is certainly his funniest, most succesful film. It's quite a treat.

I suppose "The Shafrazi Lectures, no. 1: Bottle Rocket" is this release's comedy extra (like The Peter Bradley Show and Mondo Monda)?
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#31 Post by Cronenfly »

Bottle Rocket Blu-Ray page. (cross-posted with the CC BR thread)
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#32 Post by zombeaner »

I haven't seen this film in about 10 years. It'll be interesting to revisit. I love all of Anderson's work since then.
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#33 Post by kaujot »

I really hope the commentary was recorded with Anderson and Wilson together, not separately. That really bugged me about Rushmore's commentary.
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#34 Post by Svevan »

Joined individual commentaries tend to have more detail (like Rushmore's), while dual commentaries can be so self-serving and dull. An exception is Life Aquatic's restaurant commentary which was pretty well-planned by Anderson and Baumbach.
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#35 Post by Narshty »

Svevan wrote:Joined individual commentaries tend to have more detail (like Rushmore's), while dual commentaries can be so self-serving and dull. An exception is Life Aquatic's restaurant commentary which was pretty well-planned by Anderson and Baumbach.
Or pieced together from a much longer discussion/interview session with the restaurant noise used to mask edits. (Just a possibility.)
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#36 Post by kaujot »

Svevan wrote:Joined individual commentaries tend to have more detail (like Rushmore's), while dual commentaries can be so self-serving and dull. An exception is Life Aquatic's restaurant commentary which was pretty well-planned by Anderson and Baumbach.
I like interaction between the people talking. A great example is the commentary Soderbergh and someone else (don't feel like looking the specs up) did for The Third Man, or the commentary for Days of Heaven.
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#37 Post by domino harvey »

Soderbergh plus anyone in a commentary is a guaranteed good time. And it was Tony Gilroy, the director of Michael Clayton
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#38 Post by Svevan »

Narshty wrote:
Svevan wrote:Joined individual commentaries tend to have more detail (like Rushmore's), while dual commentaries can be so self-serving and dull. An exception is Life Aquatic's restaurant commentary which was pretty well-planned by Anderson and Baumbach.
Or pieced together from a much longer discussion/interview session with the restaurant noise used to mask edits. (Just a possibility.)
I seem to remember hearing something that made it seem kind of obvious that they were actually there (perhaps interaction with a waiter or something). Anyways, nothing would surprise me. It was a good joke, and I enjoyed the commentary well enough.

My Anderson-fandom-ism is waning after some recent reviewings of his work, and though I'll probably pick up this disc I'm worried I'm going to hate it. It's been probably 6 or 7 years since I saw it, and even then it seemed like "minor" Anderson.
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#39 Post by DignanSWE »

I guess Barry Braverman is a pseudonym (of Wes Anderson)

EDIT: Sorry about that.
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#40 Post by macaca »

DignanSWE wrote:I guess Barry Braverman is a pseudonym (of Wes Anderson)
No.

AND why on Earth didn't Eric Anderson illustrate the cover?
I guess he's busy writing books, but this DVD has been in the works for what seems like years, so I'm sure it could have been done. I'm really surprised Wes would want a kind-of 'rip off' version instead.
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#41 Post by pianocrash »

DignanSWE wrote:I guess Barry Braverman is a pseudonym (of Wes Anderson)
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#42 Post by Fletch F. Fletch »

Finally! It's nice to see such an extras-heavy edition which is hardly surprising considering what Anderson has done with past Criterion editions of his films. I am really curious to hear the commentary track on this one and, as others have pointed out, it would be nice if they recorded Anderson and Wilson together but considering how busy both of them are it's probably doubtful.
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#43 Post by CA Rodgers »

As far as Was Anderson goes... he on of the best film makers today. And I always thought Bottle Rocket was a good first movie, though the films have gotten better over the years. Bottle Rocket was one of those movies that made you feel really warm and good inside. It wasn't trying to be anything, you could tell it was a guy who just really wanted to make a funny ass movie.
The order for me is. The Royal Tennenbaums, The Darjeeling Limited, Rushmore, Life Aquatic, Bottle Rocket.
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#44 Post by psufootball07 »

Hmmm...I would put Rushmore on top, and also Life Aquatic at its worst. Bottle Rocket may have been his beginnings and clearly not his best, but Life Aquatic just didnt work for me, and I know many other people feel that Life Aquatic was a real disappointment for the cast that it had.
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#45 Post by swo17 »

Um, Rushmore is on top, obviously. :wink:

Actually, I'm of the opinion that every film of Anderson's after Rushmore has been a slightly paler photocopy of the film that preceded it. (Though "slightly" is being generous for Darjeeling.) Bottle Rocket, however, is another animal entirely. It's Anderson's only real straight-up comedy, without the attempt at depth of his later work, but I think it pulls that off quite nicely. I actually know people who only like Bottle Rocket, and not Rushmore or Tenenbaums. :shock:
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#46 Post by mfunk9786 »

Is anyone else just waiting to hear that this is delayed? All the other November releases [sans the now delayed Blu-Rays] have long since been reviewed and Beavered. I'm hoping this still comes out on the 25th, but I'm not holding my breath.
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#47 Post by cdnchris »

Here you go, from Beaver
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#48 Post by Eurotrash »

Yellow subs on a Criterion? I guess that would be a first for them...
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#49 Post by domino harvey »

Another obnoxious, "wacky" addition from Wes Anderson
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#50 Post by Abulafia »

Looking at the timing on the CC disc on Beaver, I'm not convinced that the warmer tones are what was originally shot. Anderson, on a number of occasions, has pointed out that Bottle Rocket was a lot more minimalistic and muted than his subsequent pictures. It feels a little like the grade has been matched to Rushmore onward, though I must confess I have never seen the film projected.
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