Blu-ray, in General

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Cinetwist
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#1426 Post by Cinetwist »

aox wrote:I can't believe people like you still exist. After seeing the power of Blu, I will never buy another DVD for as long as I live. Sucks, because I would easily be blind buying many of Criterion's releases this year (eg. The Human Condition), but I guess I will Netflix them until they are released on Blu.
Are you talking to me? I just said that I've gone hd/blu and was surprised at the lack of talk on blu in general. Why is it surprising that I exist? You mean it's surprising I didn't adopt earlier? The technology is still relatively expensive and in the grand scheme of things, there is still barely anything available.
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#1427 Post by dx23 »

Cinetwist wrote:
aox wrote:I can't believe people like you still exist. After seeing the power of Blu, I will never buy another DVD for as long as I live. Sucks, because I would easily be blind buying many of Criterion's releases this year (eg. The Human Condition), but I guess I will Netflix them until they are released on Blu.
Are you talking to me? I just said that I've gone hd/blu and was surprised at the lack of talk on blu in general. Why is it surprising that I exist? You mean it's surprising I didn't adopt earlier? The technology is still relatively expensive and in the grand scheme of things, there is still barely anything available.
I don't think the technology is that expensive anymore as players now can be found for less than $100 and discs are around the $20-$30 mark for new releases. The blu-ray library may not be as big as the DVD one, but studios are releasing their titles at a faster pace than they did with DVD. Like Jeff said above, Blu-ray is not a novelty anymore and is discussed throughout the forum in their respective threads.
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#1428 Post by aox »

Cinetwist wrote:
aox wrote:I can't believe people like you still exist. After seeing the power of Blu, I will never buy another DVD for as long as I live. Sucks, because I would easily be blind buying many of Criterion's releases this year (eg. The Human Condition), but I guess I will Netflix them until they are released on Blu.
Are you talking to me? I just said that I've gone hd/blu and was surprised at the lack of talk on blu in general. Why is it surprising that I exist? You mean it's surprising I didn't adopt earlier? The technology is still relatively expensive and in the grand scheme of things, there is still barely anything available.
My complete apologies. I completely misread what you wrote as saying that you hoped the lack of discussion was proof that the format was failing; as if you were still a disgruntled HD supporter. Or worse, the occasional person I meet that still can't see the difference (or refuses to) between 480p and 1080p (They exist, believe me).

Again, my apologies.

However, in terms of 'discussion'.. What exactly is there to discuss at this point? Blu is going to look better than DVD. That is pretty much a constant at this point. So, technology-wise, there isn't much to discuss, unless we have twenty people in one thread making one line posts like, "I can't believe how wonderful this looks.", "I have never seen this film this clearly", etc... or pretty much any other obvious post you can think of. And I believe there is a thread about companies that have dropped the ball on their Blu presentation (e.g. Patton).

People on this board tend to talk about the film itself.
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#1431 Post by Antoine Doinel »

Paramount moves to staggered format releasing with BluRay preceding DVD in sales and rental windows.
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#1432 Post by manicsounds »

I have a question about Bluray and subtitles.

Sometimes looking at reviews for titles and I see the list of subtitles, I see that they have differing information, even though they are supposedly from the same region and manufacturer.

For example, on the "An American In Paris" Japanese Bluray review on dvdbeaver, it's mentioned that there are no Japanese subtitles, which just doesn't sound right, it's from Japan!

Are there "hidden" subtitles around?
By just toggling through the subtitle key on the remote, I assume they would pop up, just like DVDs do. Do they not show up depending on the machine possibly?
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#1433 Post by Sanjuro »

Fantasium have a very handy list of Blu-Rays from around the world with Japanese subtitles. It also lists the region of each disc.
I'm sure a lot of these are already available in Japan, but they're probably more expensive. It seems to be a better situation than DVD anyway.
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#1434 Post by Cosmo Vitelli »

Hello everyone. This thread title (Blu-ray, in General) is great considering what news I am about to share. Sorry if this has been posted before:

Buster Keaton's masterpiece "The General" is now set for a November 10th release date for its Blu-Ray debut. link
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#1435 Post by knives »

I more shocked the kino went into the blu game so soon then the actual release.
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#1436 Post by Matt »

knives wrote:I more shocked the kino went into the blu game so soon then the actual release.
They were supposed to have released Metropolis on Blu-ray a while ago, and then all that lost footage popped up. So they've been anticipating Blu-ray for some time.

Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. Because your post reads like you used Babelfish to translate it into Czech and then back into English.
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#1437 Post by cdnchris »

Matt wrote:Because your post reads like you used Babelfish to translate it into Czech and then back into English.
For fun I did that with your post:
They were supposed metropolis have released to the possibility-ray and at the same time year, and then everything that has lost shots starts to. So that it took already anticipate option of a-ray after a certain period of time.

If I'm misunderstanding and what you' they say. As your post reads like you use Babelfish transfer it to the Czech and then back into English.
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#1438 Post by Cosmic Bus »

Wasn't Kino supposed to have released Fallen Angels on Blu, as well? I'm still kind of bitter that never materialized (along with Happy Together, but at least that wasn't tantalizingly hinted at to begin with). I'll happily put the Keaton on the shelf next to the MoC box if they can manage not to screw it up in some way.
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#1439 Post by Flike »

Ugh, has there been any talk of a US release of A Hard Day's Night on Blu? Checked out Gary's review and the Canadian disc looks like a timely cash grab.
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#1440 Post by nsps »

Cosmo Vitelli wrote:Hello everyone.

This thread title (Blu-ray, in General) is great considering what news I am about to share. Sorry if this has been posted before:
I actually thought that The General was coming to Blu-ray every time I saw this thread name, so I'm glad it's finally true!
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#1441 Post by MichaelB »

I'd really fancy a Blu-ray of John Boorman's The General, done properly - I saw it in the cinema in black-and-white 2.35:1, and it looked fabulous, but for some bizarre reason the DVD only offers black--and-white 16:9 or colour 2.35:1. (It was shot in Super 35 colour, so the 16:9 version is opened-out rather than cropped).
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#1442 Post by Cabiria21 »

I was shocked to see The Searchers Blu-Ray for 7.99 at Amazon. Is there something monumentally wrong with the transfer? It seems DVDBeaver said it had some issues but they don't seem too major but I remember the 2DVD set was supposedly terrible. I was curious if someone else owns it and can tell me if the Blu-Ray is a good transfer or if it's a travesty.
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#1443 Post by mikkelmark »

Cabiria21 wrote:I was shocked to see The Searchers Blu-Ray for 7.99 at Amazon. Is there something monumentally wrong with the transfer? It seems DVDBeaver said it had some issues but they don't seem too major but I remember the 2DVD set was supposedly terrible. I was curious if someone else owns it and can tell me if the Blu-Ray is a good transfer or if it's a travesty.
I have it and would say it looks good, but im no expert, and my tv is only 720p.

High-defdigest gave the video quality 4.5/5
DVDTalk gave the video quality 4.5/5
Blu-ray.com gave the video quality 5/5

If youre searching for reviews, try http://www.dvd-basen.dk/uk/home.php3
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#1445 Post by Matt »

It's not technically PAL speedup since PAL and NTSC are not a concern in HD, but Blu-ray discs using HD masters originally meant for PAL DVDs and therefore transferred at 25 frames-per-second (as opposed to the film and NTSC standard of 24 fps) will still exhibit speedup. These discs are rare, but they do exist.
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#1446 Post by swo17 »

Antoine Doinel wrote:
It looks like it arrives on store shelves on September 15th.
Does anyone know what's happening with this? Amazon still has it available for preorder, but with no release date listed.
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#1447 Post by ccfixx »

swo17 wrote:
Antoine Doinel wrote:
It looks like it arrives on store shelves on September 15th.
Does anyone know what's happening with this? Amazon still has it available for preorder, but with no release date listed.
Yeah, as far as I know, it's been shelved again, for some reason, without a concrete release date. The studios could be waiting to tie it in with another release. Who knows, though.

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#1448 Post by swo17 »

I really need to stop selling my DVDs before their Blu upgrades are actually available.
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#1449 Post by Stuart Galbraith IV »

I have a question about Bluray and subtitles. Sometimes looking at reviews for titles and I see the list of subtitles, I see that they have differing information, even though they are supposedly from the same region and manufacturer.

For example, on the "An American In Paris" Japanese Bluray review on dvdbeaver, it's mentioned that there are no Japanese subtitles, which just doesn't sound right, it's from Japan!

Are there "hidden" subtitles around?
Yes. I live in Japan and use a Japanese Blu-ray recorder. When I review discs for DVD Talk shipped over from the U.S., somestimes they'll default to Japanese menu screens with Japanese audio and subtitle options. Also, sometimes other subtitles and audio not listed on the U.S. packaging also are available. It's rather ironic, because a disc that might be discounted to $9.98 in the U.S. might sell in Japan for closer to $50, yet it's exactly the same disc.
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#1450 Post by manicsounds »

Mr Galbraith, respect your work a lot!
I'm not exactly sure how it works, but on a standard DVD player, toggling through the subtitle key should get you the all the language options on the disc, unless the toggling function is locked.

(One example is the "Pixar Shorts Volume 1" DVD from the US and Japan are the same, but the toggling function is diabled, so the Japanese options are there, but only if you start the disc from the Japanese menus.)

With a Blu-ray, just toggling through the subtitle or audio options won't access everything? Or is it like a disabled toggling function?
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