Deborah is pronounced Kaa...r i think.rohmerin wrote:I have to confess that I've never and ever knew how to pronounce Borzage and Dieterle, and, well, she's an actress, but Deborah Kerr, when I try to say it in the propper way, I can not.
Deborah Kerr is just the perfect example of all the difficulties - impossibilities for a Spanish speaker when he (me) tries not to sound Spaniard.
How to Pronounce Your Favorite Director's Name
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- zedz
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Post-vocalic 'r' is a quaint Americanism, I'm afraid, so no r at the end.
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I know, but it's more fun this way 
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It would be even more fun witha trilled Spanish Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...
- zedz
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"Kerr" - as in "ay caramba!"
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I've always assumed that 'Dieterle" was pronounced 'Dee-ter-lee'.
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"There's a new star in Deborah Kerr," or something like thatzedz wrote:"Kerr" - as in "ay caramba!"
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Gracias, but another problem of mine is when I say "Deborah" it doesn't sound UK English, I sound Spanglish ](*,) that I don't know if it's fun, well, for me it¡s not. I feel very shamed with my RRRRs and specially our SSSSSSs like snakes.
What about Borzage? I say his name always in a French way.
What about Borzage? I say his name always in a French way.
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In his American Cinema documentary, Scorsese pronounced Borzage as Bor-ZAY-gee (with a hard 'g' in the last syllable), which I found so surprising I assumed it was authentic. I don't remember how they pronounced it in the box set documentary, but I don't remember it being different. If I ever had occasion to say the name out loud I'd follow like a sheep.
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How many syllables in Vincente Minnelli's first name? I've heard knowledgeable people take the two- and the three-syllable approach. Is it something he was flexible about?
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Vin-cen-te has got 3 syllables in Italian, but 2 in English.
My English is not perfect, but trust me, my Italian is. My accent seems from Torino (99% of Italians said to me that).
Borzage sounds better in a French way (bor-sashhhhh ) than in the Sorsese's. Sorry, I'm a snobbish sheep
My English is not perfect, but trust me, my Italian is. My accent seems from Torino (99% of Italians said to me that).
Borzage sounds better in a French way (bor-sashhhhh ) than in the Sorsese's. Sorry, I'm a snobbish sheep
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But Scorsese is right.
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Evgenii Bauer? And is it Evgenii or Yevgeni?
- zedz
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YevGEHnee, with a hard 'g', as in 'get'.
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zedz is right on the pronunciation. There isn't necessarily one correct way to spell his name in our alphabet. His first name in Cyrillic is Евгений.
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The English transliteration is "Yevgeni" and is obviously "wrong". The correct spelling is "Evgenij", which is pronounced as zedz said.Murdoch wrote:Evgenii Bauer? And is it Evgenii or Yevgeni?
PS: and yes, Borzage is probably the strangest surname ever.
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"Yevgeni" is actually only one letter off from the British Standard and Russian passport romanizations (Yevgeniy). There's about half a dozen romanizations in semi-common use, it's kind of a mess.
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Yevgeny Kafelnikov tripped up at least one sports anchor...
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No one asked, but I have it on good authority that Pál Fejös is pronounced Pal Feh-yoosh.
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I still look at the name Naruse and pronounce it mentally Nah-roos. And I just realized it yesterday when I thought, "wait, that pronunciation doesn't make any sense... Damn phonics." Is Na-ru-say the correct way to pronounce his name?
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I have no idea about the real pronunciation but I think it is as it is spelled Na-ru-se. At least that sound most right to me so thats what I use 
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I believe the actual correct pronunciation is NAH-roo-say (I think you're generally supposed to emphasize the third from last syllable) but the Americanized version would be nah-ROO-say (second from last syllable, consistent with how most Americans pronounce Kurosawa).
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Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name
Ku-RO-sa-wa?swo17 wrote:(I think you're generally supposed to emphasize the third from last syllable)