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Jeff
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#126 Post by Jeff »

perkizitore wrote:Is Film Desk the US distributor?
The Film Desk still has U.S. theatrical distribution rights for Monsieur Verdoux, so until those rights expire, Janus is collaborating with them to include it in the retrospective. Criterion has the DVD rights for the film. That is the extent of The Film Desk's involvement.
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#127 Post by domino harvey »

Matt wrote:Omigod omigod omigod! They got Kate Beaton to do the poster. Perfect match of subject to artist. I hope she does illustrations for all the eventual covers.
Would totally redeem the direction Criterion's covers have taken lately. IE: Won't happen
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#128 Post by Matt »

Yeah, it will be like that time Keiko Kimura did that cute illustration for Rialto's release of Masculine Feminine and then Criterion put [url=http://criterion_production.s3.amazonaws.com/release_images/1028/308_box_348x490.jpg]Chantal Goya's passport photo on the DVD cover[/url].
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#129 Post by jackford »

Countess from Hong Kong continues to get the shaft. The film is classic Chaplin, and whether or not the film has been continuously maligned since it's initial release(unfairly so) it still deserves a spot with these films, as it is still Chaplin's final work and Chaplin himself considered it his best film along with City Lights at the end of his life. Andrew Sarris also called it "the quintessence of everything Chaplin has ever felt."

Intrestingly, all of Chaplin's talking pictures are infused with a profound sense of pessimism. Not that it was a bad thing by any means. However, this (and the final sequence from Limelight with Keaton) is the only talking film which Chaplin was able to convey the magnificent sense of poetry from his Tramp pictures.

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1967/ ... ng-palong/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This here is the article that made me revisit the film, and as a result, truly discover it for the first time. I think it's a masterpiece, and it distresses me on a small level to see it constantly passed over.
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#130 Post by domino harvey »

It would handily make a list of the ten worst films I've ever seen
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#131 Post by jackford »

Haha. Nevertheless it still warrents a place in this collection. I can't think of any other film that can raise my spirits so when watching it. It's really a companion piece to The Immigrant. At least look at again!
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#132 Post by knives »

It most definitely warrants a place next to Border Radio.
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#133 Post by captveg »

Whether it warrants a place in the collection or not, it would necessitate a separate license agreement from Universal, rather than the license agreement with the Chaplin Estate/MK2 that these other films are from.
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#134 Post by prokosch »

Matt wrote:Omigod omigod omigod! They got Kate Beaton to do the poster. Perfect match of subject to artist. I hope she does illustrations for all the eventual covers.
I just about hit the roof when I saw that poster -- and her name -- in the Criterion newsletter, not least because I went to university with her and, yeah, that's just weird. WEIRD, I tells you. That's the poster. If that ends up being the artwork for the DVDs... well, we're through the looking glass here, people.
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#135 Post by matrixschmatrix »

prokosch wrote:
Matt wrote:Omigod omigod omigod! They got Kate Beaton to do the poster. Perfect match of subject to artist. I hope she does illustrations for all the eventual covers.
I just about hit the roof when I saw that poster -- and her name -- in the Criterion newsletter, not least because I went to university with her and, yeah, that's just weird. WEIRD, I tells you. That's the poster. If that ends up being the artwork for the DVDs... well, we're through the looking glass here, people.
Yeah, she used to post on a board I frequented, until she blew up and then got run off by creepy fanboys. It's bizarre to have someone you know, even in the incredibly slight 'chatted with on the internet' kind of way, spill into something like this.
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#137 Post by Jeff »

Yes, it should be handled with Kid gloves. To be fair, it looks like she is only touching the edge and tilting it back to get a better view. Surely the Criterion staff are generally very careful with such things. I guess this article ("we are working with the Cineteca (and the Charlie Chaplin estate) on restorations of some Chaplin films that we will be releasing over the next couple of years") and picture should alleviate any concerns about Criterion using the same compromised masters as Kinowelt and Park Circus.
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#138 Post by dadaistnun »

"This new high definition digital transfer was created on a Spirit Datacine from the original 35mm camera negative. Thousands of instances of dirt, debris, scratches, splices, warps, jitter, flicker, and Fumiko Takagi's fingerprints were manually removed using MTI's DR5 system and Pixel Farm's PFClean system."
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#139 Post by Finch »

dadaistnun wrote:Fumiko Takagi's fingerprints were manually removed using MTI's DR5 system and Pixel Farm's PFClean system."
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#140 Post by Brianruns10 »

At least she's not smoking a cigarette while she's doing it! :)

If you wanna see horrors, see the "making of" video for the History Channels' recent series "World War II in HD." It shows how those filmmakers handled archival films donated to them from private owners. They were absolutely incompetent, running one of a kind reversal film through projectors, and being very careless in handling. They even admitted damaging one of the films in the process of making the transfer!
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#141 Post by manicsounds »

No, worse is on Monty Python's Meaning Of Life restoration documentary, where Terry Jones puts the negative through a wash and rinse cycle...
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#142 Post by Jeff »

Criterion has got their full Chaplin site up now. There are screening dates, publicity photos, and more. They've got Monsieur Verdoux listed as a 1927 film instead of 1947, but overall it's pretty useful and each page of the site features a few of those cool Kate Beaton illustrations in a little more detail.
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#143 Post by Finch »

Anyone know where that screenshot on the first page is from?
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#144 Post by broadwayrock »

If you right click the image its labeled 'Pilgrim'. There's a massive version of the image if you click the link of the film at the top.

They probably got the photo from here:

http://photo.charliechaplin.com/assets?tag=prison" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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#145 Post by Finch »

Thanks
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#146 Post by aox »

This might be better for this thread, but Criterion just posted this on Facebook under "Coming Soon"

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#147 Post by AtlantaFella »

... although as a few people have noted, it appears to only be a poster for the theatrical tour.
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#148 Post by Flike »

I always ask, if Criterion struck new prints for all these films, what are we to expect this year? Wouldn't they want to tour pretty much all the features for much longer before they unveil DVDs?
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#149 Post by Tribe »

It might appear from The Gold Rush page that the 1942 re-release (with the dreaded voice over) might be the default version. I hope it isn't so.
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#150 Post by Tom Hagen »

Now that we know the films in play, the next great question will be single releases or one ridiculously-priced, huge set?
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