104 / BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

Discuss releases by Eureka and Masters of Cinema and the films on them
Message
Author
User avatar
domino harvey
Dot Com Dom
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:42 pm

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#26 Post by domino harvey »

Dana Polan commentaries are so awful that you long for the pauses of dead space-- this is no great loss

Peerpee, if you do another Tashlin release (More like WHEN, rite), you should track down the Tashlin compendium put out in the late 60s/early 70s that collects all the translated French cinema writings on Tashlin (like Preminger, he was an auteur that both the left-leaning Positif and right-leaning Cahiers liked). There's one good article from Positif regarding Tashlin's satiric take on technology that boldly proclaims Tashlin succeeds where Chaplin and Tati fail!
Last edited by domino harvey on Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:11 pm, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
Finch
Joined: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:09 pm
Location: United States

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#27 Post by Finch »

What A Disgrace wrote:I am so gay for the blurb you gave the film.
Amen to that. Never thought you'd best the blurb for Eureka's Female Prisoner Scorpion set but you've outdone yourselves with this one.

edit: when are this and the McCarey going to be up for preorders?
peerpee
not perpee
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:41 pm

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#28 Post by peerpee »

MAKE WAY and ROCK HUNTER will be out in October. We had to put them back a month (from September).

The transfers for both are among our best, we're very happy with them.

btw. MoC's Craig Keller was responsible for both the FEMALE PRISONER boxset and ROCK HUNTER blurbs. The boy can write!
User avatar
Svevan
Joined: Mon Nov 22, 2004 11:49 pm
Location: Portland, OR

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#29 Post by Svevan »

Tell him we want to marry him.
User avatar
Minkin
Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:13 am

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#30 Post by Minkin »

User avatar
Minkin
Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:13 am

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#31 Post by Minkin »

User avatar
swo17
Bloodthirsty Butcher
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:25 pm
Location: SLC, UT

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#32 Post by swo17 »

Looks wonderful, but those caps give away
Spoiler
the Groucho cameo.
User avatar
Will Barks
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:28 pm
Location: Brunn am Gebirge/Österreich
Contact:

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#33 Post by Will Barks »

Is it me or do the Blu-ray caps look a little stretched in comparison with the DVD's? :-k
User avatar
swo17
Bloodthirsty Butcher
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:25 pm
Location: SLC, UT

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#34 Post by swo17 »

It's hard to tell when the BD caps are larger, so I shrunk those and compared them below. I don't see any discernible difference.

Image
User avatar
RossyG
Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 9:50 pm

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#35 Post by RossyG »

Will Barks wrote:Is it me or do the Blu-ray caps look a little stretched in comparison with the DVD's? :-k
I thought that as well looking at the Beaver caps. I'm not saying it is stretched, as I'm not an expert in these things, but something didn't look quite right. If anything, the caps in the post above confirm a difference between the BD and DVD. But it's been a long day and my eyes aren't what they were.
User avatar
Matt
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:58 pm

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#36 Post by Matt »

It is a true Cinemascope film, and those anamorphic lenses distorted everything all to hell, especially close-ups and things at the sides of the frame (the bulk of Gary's caps). This is just the way the film looks.
User avatar
zedz
Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:24 pm

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#37 Post by zedz »

I was distracted by the same thing on MoC's A Time to Love and a Time to Die, but as I recall it was explained in the booklet. It's not consistent from shot to shot, but some closeups (or shots with actors on the side of the frame) look so distorted you want to check your aspect ratio settings.
User avatar
RossyG
Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 9:50 pm

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#38 Post by RossyG »

Ah, that explains it. Fairy nuff. :)
User avatar
Will Barks
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:28 pm
Location: Brunn am Gebirge/Österreich
Contact:

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#39 Post by Will Barks »

True! I should have remembered that lens thing from reading those booklets. :-#
User avatar
Matt
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:58 pm

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#40 Post by Matt »

If you want to see a really ugly example of Cinemascope lens distortion, look at the panning in the first two shots of East of Eden (1:40 to 2:00 in this video). Like looking through a fishbowl.
User avatar
Doctor Sunshine
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:04 am
Location: Brain Jail

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#41 Post by Doctor Sunshine »

I think--or thought--what they were talking about was a difference between the two sets of images, not lens distortion. And there is a measurable difference. Discounting black space, the image on the DVD is about 1:2.34 and the BD's about 1:2.36. It's subtle but noticeable. I wonder if it's a player compatibility thing. A friend imported Gangster No. 1 back in the day and he didn't notice anything but the image looked slightly stretched out horizontally to me. And, while I haven't crunched any other numbers, glancing through a couple other comparisons on DVDBeaver, the Sex and Lucia R1 and R2s seem to have the same slight stretch/squish issue where other 1/2 A/B comparisons don't. It seems odd that multiple reputable companies over the course of a decade wouldn't notice something like that during authoring but maybe there's a non-PAL/NTSC compatibility issue between some UK discs and American multi-region players or the like that's slipped through.
User avatar
zedz
Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:24 pm

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#42 Post by zedz »

.008 difference really spoils the viewing experience for you? Is it not possible that an extra couple of pixels have been added to the blurry outskirts of the frame?
User avatar
Doctor Sunshine
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:04 am
Location: Brain Jail

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#43 Post by Doctor Sunshine »

No, zedz, nothing's been spoiled for me. I only chimed in as it was mentioned in passing, I'd been curious about it and I thought someone might know more. Forgive my crass gif fade technique but if anyone can't see what I'm talking about it's this (DVDBeaver's spoilerish screenshots were the only exact frame match so I used it):
Spoiler
Image
User avatar
FerdinandGriffon
Joined: Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:16 pm

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#44 Post by FerdinandGriffon »

Doctor Sunshine wrote:
Spoiler
Image
I could stare at that for hours.
User avatar
swo17
Bloodthirsty Butcher
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:25 pm
Location: SLC, UT

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#45 Post by swo17 »

That's actually how everything normally looks whenever I look at Jayne Mansfield.
User avatar
zedz
Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:24 pm

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#46 Post by zedz »

Well, that's certainly the trippiest spoiler I've ever seen!

I see what you mean now, but I have no idea which one, if either, is correct.
User avatar
mfunk9786
Under Chris' Protection
Joined: Fri May 16, 2008 8:43 pm
Location: Miami, FL

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#47 Post by mfunk9786 »

Damn, when I saw spoiler tags, I thought I was going to find out if success spoiled Rock Hunter or not. I guess it's still a wait-and-see situation.
User avatar
TheGodfather
Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:39 pm
Location: The Netherlands

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#48 Post by TheGodfather »

I watched it tonight (first time I saw the movie) and thought it was a wonderfull film from start to finish. Right from the start, you know you`re up for something special.
I loved the transfer, it looked really good but (luckily) not too "HD-in-your-face" (as some transfers do) wich really did the film and its atmosphere justice.
User avatar
Finch
Joined: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:09 pm
Location: United States

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#49 Post by Finch »

It's definitely one of the more subtler upgrades and only really evident in motion. I was disappointed by how the visuals came across on the Beev (yes I know...) caps but am glad I took the plunge after all. Craig Keller put together a wonderful booklet as well: the David Cairns pieces were all on target I thought, and the Randall interview surprisingly and endearingly candid (he disliked the popcorn exploding in his pockets joke and wasn't all that taken by Jayne Mansfield).
User avatar
perkizitore
Joined: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:29 pm
Location: OOP is the only answer

Re: BD 14 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

#50 Post by perkizitore »

On the booklet criterionforum.org gets a special thanks!
Post Reply