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Gordon · #51 Post by **Gordon** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:30 pm

Cracked Actor would be a great supplement on disc 2, for sure. Roeg has said that he chose Bowie for the role after seeing Cracked Actor.

BTW, here's another good interview with Roeg.

oldsheperd · #52 Post by **oldsheperd** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:57 pm

Let's hope the Rip Torn drunken police video is listed with a commentary.

What A Disgrace · Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:27 am

I'm very happy that they're including the source novel as a supplement. Ever since Short Cuts, I was hoping they'd do just that.

Gordon · #54 Post by **Gordon** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:03 am

Sounds like a pretty cool package, although I was hoping for a documentary on Roeg's career. But the interview with Paul Mayersberg will be interesting, I'm sure and the "gallery of posters from Roeg's films" is a thoughtful supplement, as the poster-art for his films are amazing. The inclusion of the original novel, is just, as Tevis was a fine writer and the "appreciation of Tevis" by novelist Jack Matthews should well worth reading.

rossbrew · #55 Post by **rossbrew** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:04 pm

on the Criterion website under the specs for Man who fell...it says Non-anamorphic...surely an oversight?

godardslave · #56 Post by **godardslave** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:12 pm

rossbrew wrote:on the Criterion website under the specs for Man who fell...it says Non-anamorphic...surely an oversight?

Film Info

Anamorphic

correct me if im wrong but isnt this the first time criterion has released a film that is already available in region 1 in an anamorphic 2 disc set?

and what does anyone else think is the explanation for this?

Im assuming some people at criterion just really love this film.

manicsounds · #57 Post by **manicsounds** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:01 am

So far it seems the dts-es track from the Anchor Bay disc will not be included...... hmmm

THX1378 · #58 Post by **THX1378** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:08 am

So far it seems the dts-es track from the Anchor Bay disc will not be included...... hmmm

I was going to ask this question once the specs popped if the dts or a 5.1 track didn't appear on the set. Is it me or does Criterion like to keep the soundtracks like they were when the film was first release/made? Seems that most of the films they put out retain the original soundtracks *say the 2.0 stereo mix as it was heard in theaters*and thats it. Not that it's a bad thing at all, but there are some films *the one that comes to mind the most for me is The Leopard* that I would have thought that Criterion would have remastered the soundtrack into a 5.1 mix. Or does Anchor Bay, because they did the DTS remaster of the soundtrack own the rights to it?

skuhn8 · #59 Post by **skuhn8** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:47 am

That's kind of part of what the CC is about: preserving the film. The only exception that comes to mind just now is the Tin Drum soundtrack remastered to 5.1 (in addition to the original mono). I was surprised they didn't offer a 5.1 bump up on naked lunch.

daniel p · #60 Post by **daniel p** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:32 am

What about Picnic at Hanging Rock and The Last Wave?

Personally, I'm both suprised and disappointed the dts track isn't on there... is the dts on the AB disc good? From memory of reviews I read it was... what's the harm of including dts and DD 2.0? Even adding DD 5.1 and a commentary would still leave plenty of room for a high bitrate...

Gordon · #61 Post by **Gordon** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:19 am

My guess, is that Criterion want an average 8 mbps bitrate for this 140-minute film. Does anyone know the bitrate of the Anchor disc?

Anchor's transfer was created from a hi-def scan of the negative and is a goregeous, almost-flawless transfer. Perhaps the flesh-tones are a bit reddish, but I actually expect Criterion to use the same transfer that AB used.

Although the IMDb lists the film's sound mix as mono, I have heard that the film was mixed and released with a 4-track magnetic stereo originally, which is probably why the 5.1 and DTS tracks sound so good. Criterion's audio is listed as "stereo", but I doubt that it will be 4-track.

THX1378 · #62 Post by **THX1378** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:18 am

I wonder why then they just didn't go with at least the 5.1 track for this? Unless the 2.0 track is what the director prefers. I guess I'll just have to wait til the disc get reviewed over at the beaver to see which is going to have the better soundtrack.

Lino · #63 Post by **Lino** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:47 am

Let's not forget that until the final specs are revealed, you better hold on to your Anchor Bay edition if only for the exclusive documentary on the second disc which is worth having.

daniel p · #64 Post by **daniel p** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:02 am

Hi John,

I am wondering if the upcoming release of The Man Who Fell to Earth will include the dts-es track from Anchor Bay's Special Edition along with original audio? It is surely a great oipportunity to add the re-mix from the 4 channel sound mix.

Regards,
Daniel

Dear Daniel,

The surround mixes on the Anchor Bay release were not created from the original stems. Instead, they are a processed version of the stereo mix, created by sending the stereo mix through a surround processor. For this reason, and because the film was not surround to begin with, we have decided not to include these mixes.

Best,
JM

J M Powell · #65 Post by **J M Powell** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:45 pm

I haven't heard the Anchor Bay surround mix, by the way, but if this is really how they produced that mix then you can probably get pretty close to the exact same mix by selecting the pseudo-surround (or "Super Surround" or whatever a given manufacturer calls it) feature on any decent receiver while playing the Criterion stereo mix.

BWilson · #66 Post by **BWilson** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:52 pm

skuhn8 wrote:That's kind of part of what the CC is about: preserving the film. The only exception that comes to mind just now is the Tin Drum soundtrack remastered to 5.1 (in addition to the original mono). I was surprised they didn't offer a 5.1 bump up on naked lunch.

The insert for Criterion's The Tin Drum claims that in its theatrical release the film was presented in 35mm mono and 70mm blow-up. The 70mm version featured a discrete surround mix, which criterion's 5.1 attempts to preserve. But I haven't listened to the 5.1 track yet to compare.

Cinesimilitude · #67 Post by **Cinesimilitude** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:04 pm

It seems that this disc and Bad Timing have been delayed to Late september (the 27th) or early october (the 4th). Amazon.com has the 27th listed as the release date, whereas amazon.ca has the latter date posted.

Andre Jurieu · #68 Post by **Andre Jurieu** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:26 pm

SncDthMnky wrote:It seems that this disc and Bad Timing have been delayed to ... early october (the 4th)... amazon.ca has the latter date posted.

Amazon.ca imports these DVDs, so they add an extra week to the release date in order to ship the product into Canada. It's most likely delayed to September 27th.

FilmFanSea · #69 Post by **FilmFanSea** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:33 am

First review is up at DVD Movie Central.

analoguezombie · #70 Post by **analoguezombie** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:53 pm

I am really looking forward to the new transfer on this disc. I'm glad to hear initial praises for it.

The last time I saw this movie was on VHS and it had the same gritty, dull look of a VHS editions of 70's British fare. This, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, and The Young One's, always gave me the most horrible headaches from the image quality. Literally migraines. I can't wait to watch this film without excruciating pain. Maybe I'll think more of it, than i remember.

tavernier · #71 Post by **tavernier** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:39 am

I've never been a Roeg fan, and I think this is his emptiest, most irritating movie (with a scandalously inept Bowie performance offsetting Candy Clark's amazing one). But....

This is definitely one of Criterion's best transfers. It looks so crisp and clean, and the colors are so brilliant and vivid that it's hard to believe it's 30 years old. Yes, it looks that good.

The extras are also plentiful for fans of the film. The best extra for me was a copy of the Tevis novel, which I found far superior to Roeg's pretty but shallow adaptation.

Gigi M. · #72 Post by **Gigi M.** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:13 am

Is it a digipak? I believe it has to be since the novel is included.

Lino · #73 Post by **Lino** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:20 am

tavernier wrote:I've never been a Roeg fan, and I think this is his emptiest, most irritating movie (with a scandalously inept Bowie performance offsetting Candy Clark's amazing one).

Glad to see you're spending your money on things you like.

daniel p · #74 Post by **daniel p** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:28 am

tavernier wrote:I've never been a Roeg fan, and I think this is his emptiest, most irritating movie (with a scandalously inept Bowie performance offsetting Candy Clark's amazing one). But....

This is definitely one of Criterion's best transfers. It looks so crisp and clean, and the colors are so brilliant and vivid that it's hard to believe it's 30 years old. Yes, it looks that good.

The extras are also plentiful for fans of the film. The best extra for me was a copy of the Tevis novel, which I found far superior to Roeg's pretty but shallow adaptation.

It is bizarre to read that you actually own the dvd, and write about it, even though you call the film 'empty' and 'irritating'. If i could afford to buy the films I class as such, I'd be a very broke man...

ben d banana · #75 Post by **ben d banana** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:34 am

Yes, to the chambers with the bourgeois pig!

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