Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.5

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#576 Post by TheDot »

cdnchris wrote:Though not to take away from the current cover art bitching, I thought I'd point out that Sweet Smell of Success IS a digipak, NOT a clear case in a sleeve. It's similar to Breathless and Amarcord.

Sweet Smell of Success
All that effort put in to the Sweet Smell of Success digipack, it comes out looking great and then on the inside it looks like they just got bored! Do love the rest of the packaging though, and cant wait to finally pick it up.
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#577 Post by fdm »

Dunno, the new covers are so-so, a couple good ones, a few bad ones. But, gotta say the worst to me recently, possibly forever, were the two for Shock Corridor and The Naked Kiss. Yucko.
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#578 Post by matrixschmatrix »

cdnchris wrote:Senso
It looks like the inside packaging on Senso is much better looking than the outer cover (which I don't hate, but it's not remarkably good).
fdm wrote:Dunno, the new covers are so-so, a couple good ones, a few bad ones. But, gotta say the worst to me recently, possibly forever, were the two for Shock Corridor and The Naked Kiss. Yucko.
Have you seen them in person? I thought they looked bad online, but Shock Corridor in particular works well in person. The Naked Kiss... well it's still not great, but I think Clowes just couldn't work himself up to the appropriate level of pulpiness there. The actual on-disc art for Naked Kiss is awesome, though.
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#579 Post by Murdoch »

TheDot wrote:All that effort put in to the Sweet Smell of Success digipack, it comes out looking great and then on the inside it looks like they just got bored! Do love the rest of the packaging though, and cant wait to finally pick it up.
Yeah, who the hell decided just to load the interior with yellow? That's the laziest interior I've ever seen by them.
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#580 Post by fdm »

matrixschmatrix wrote: Have you seen them in person? I thought they looked bad online, but Shock Corridor in particular works well in person. The Naked Kiss... well it's still not great, but I think Clowes just couldn't work himself up to the appropriate level of pulpiness there. The actual on-disc art for Naked Kiss is awesome, though.
Yeah, I waited until I had the titles in hand before saying anything, just in case. But, didn't make any difference, I think they're awful. (Haven't cracked them open yet.)
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#581 Post by HistoryProf »

cdnchris wrote:Senso
dammit...once again the booklet cover is 10x better than the main cover :(
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#582 Post by movielocke »

gonna bet on a contractual mandate to have the leads on the cover in equal proportion.
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#583 Post by mfunk9786 »

That much was explained in Skillman's blog entry. I think they came up with a very clever way to accomplish that.
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#584 Post by Norbie »

matrixschmatrix wrote:That cover for The Great Dictator looks seriously artifacted, like it was blown up from a thumbnail image
Maybe the cover is not final?
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#586 Post by mfunk9786 »

Why?! The original cover looked much better.
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#587 Post by swo17 »

Surely some contractual obligation came to light regarding the size of the title and reference to the book on the front cover.
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#588 Post by movielocke »

isn't that the same still with a different title font/box plus new text at the bottom of the frame? I guess the book attribution was a contractual thing.

anyone want to repost the original? the link from the april announcements post in this thread is dead.
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#591 Post by movielocke »

I see nothing to really be fussed about.
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#592 Post by mfunk9786 »

The white-in-yellow text box is hideous.
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#593 Post by oldsheperd »

I think I've gotten a few knicknacks from Kes. They're like Pier 1 Imports right?
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#594 Post by zedz »

Let me guess: the contractual stipulation was that Barry Hines' name had to be the same size as Ken Loach's, and that the book attribution had to appear in that particular formulation. Probably also something about their names being no less than 20% the height of the title or somesuch.

So without the time to do a complete redesign (with the writer's credit plastered on the side of a truck being driven across the background?) the poor graphic designer had to either use the bottom fifth of the cover for the writer credit and have the kid's chin resting on the title, or shrink everything down, leaving the title too puny. So I guess the box around the title is the unfortunate solution for restoring a bit of its heft.

I bet Criterion's designers are really missing all the non-major studio commissions they used to do.
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#595 Post by movielocke »

I think the only thing you missed is that the book/author attribution had to probably be the same text color as the title as well with probably the same alignment (left, right or centered).
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#596 Post by heredity4me »

Is it strange that the year changed on the cover too? Thanks for explaining some of those possible contractual obligations: a very strange world.
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#597 Post by Cinephrenic »

Maybe they releasing the book as well.
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#598 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian »

Another theory: It may well have been Loach's own request -- he doesn't have much truck for the auteur theory, and the UK posters for his recent films (at least as far back as Sweet Sixteen) have a credit for Paul Laverty in the same size as Loach's. They also use the "directed by" phrasing instead of "a film by." Perhaps Loach wanted to single out Hines' role in the original story instead of going with something like "Screenplay by Barry Hines, Ken Loach, and Tony Garnett."
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#599 Post by James »

Oddly enough, all that really bothers my eyes about the revision is the fact that they bolded everything except the book title!
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#600 Post by TonyleStephanois »

The Fanciful Norwegian wrote:Another theory: It may well have been Loach's own request -- he doesn't have much truck for the auteur theory, and the UK posters for his recent films (at least as far back as Sweet Sixteen) have a credit for Paul Laverty in the same size as Loach's. They also use the "directed by" phrasing instead of "a film by." Perhaps Loach wanted to single out Hines' role in the original story instead of going with something like "Screenplay by Barry Hines, Ken Loach, and Tony Garnett."
Indeed, Loach doesn't believe in the auteur theory at all and sees filmmaking as a collaborative art. When he speaks about his filmmaking he says 'we' rather than 'I' or 'my'.
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