Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

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colinr0380
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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#51 Post by colinr0380 »

MichaelB wrote:Did you know that Tarkovsky commented on James Glickenhaus' The Exterminator?

He was visiting London in 1981 for a NFT lecture, and insisted on seeing it, as it was the big British censorship cause célèbre at the time - so you can see why a much-censored Russian filmmaker would have a passing interest in the subject.

He wasn't impressed.

He wasn't impressed.
Neither was I - by far the worst adaptation of William Burroughs I have ever seen! :wink:
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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#52 Post by ando »

Mr Sausage wrote:
ando wrote:Media wolves as well as everyone else will read his film no differently simply because the release date is scheduled around national events. Why would we?
You're doing an awful lot of careless and uncharitable reading in order to bolster what you'd already decided was true beforehand. Spielberg seems to be saying that he doesn't want his film cheaply co-opted by political partisans to help sell whatever policies they're pushing, which is perfectly reasonable considering how often that has already happened with Lincoln. So he pushes the release date back so that no one can mangle the film to help them win an election and so that it isn't overshadowed by electoral rhetoric. Not only is this motive understandable, it functions perfectly well without your assumption that Spielberg is a political filmmaker who pretends to be a-political. That last bit is an unnecessary explanation.
Apparently not, Mr. Sausage, as I was asked to re-clarify the point. What seems careless, uncharitable and unnecessary is your contention that posters need comment according to your editorial satisfaction.
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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#53 Post by Mr Sausage »

ando wrote:Apparently not, Mr. Sausage, as I was asked to re-clarify the point. What seems careless, uncharitable and unnecessary is your contention that posters need comment according to your editorial satisfaction.
Ah, another person who thinks they can disprove an argument through ad-hominems. I kinda of like this game, it's so easy to defeat. Watch:

Which one of my claims ceases to be true because I only like posters to comment according to my satisfaction? Which one of my claims suddenly becomes true when I stop wanting posters to only comment according to my satisfaction? Doesn't it strike you as odd that the exact same claim becomes right or wrong to you based on some sort of internal belief of mine?
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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#54 Post by Aspect »

Oh yes, I'm excited.

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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#55 Post by swo17 »

But Matt Besser already perfected Lincoln in Bad Teacher!
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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#56 Post by stroszeck »

What could be more perfect than a photo of a confederate soldier bearing his rifle alongside a hollywood douchebag nursing a frapuccino...
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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#57 Post by Gregory »

a.k.a. Spielberg holding a cup of coffee?
Not sure why I even look in threads for yet-to-be-released films anymore.
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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

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stroszeck wrote:What could be more perfect than a photo of a confederate soldier bearing his rifle alongside a hollywood douchebag nursing a frapuccino...
Oh, I don't know. Perhaps a photo of young boy in a Union soldier's uniform alongside Steven Spielberg holding coffee? Throw in Daniel Day Lewis dressed as Lincoln and I think you'd have something "more perfect" than the imaginary scenario you described. Even better would be a picture of Yo Yo Ma laying on the floor of a bathroom with a wombat.
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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#59 Post by mfunk9786 »

Gregory wrote:a.k.a. Spielberg holding a cup of coffee?
Not sure why I even look in threads for yet-to-be-released films anymore.
This. How dare Spielberg hold a nondescript paper coffee cup!
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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#60 Post by hearthesilence »

And with a polystyrene cover! Like he can't afford a reusable coffee mug!

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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#61 Post by stroszeck »

Jeff wrote:
stroszeck wrote:What could be more perfect than a photo of a confederate soldier bearing his rifle alongside a hollywood douchebag nursing a frapuccino...
Oh, I don't know. Perhaps a photo of young boy in a Union soldier's uniform alongside Steven Spielberg drinking coffee? Throw in Daniel Day Lewis dressed as Lincoln and I think you'd have something "more perfect" than the imaginary scenario you described. Even better would be a picture of Yo Yo Ma laying on the floor of a bathroom with a wombat.
I clearly need to purchase a copy of Idiots Guide to Civil War....but anyways you sir win the "Greatest Photo in the History of Anything" award. Awesome post.
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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#62 Post by MyNameCriterionForum »

There's gotta be a way to segue from the assassination attempt in Gangs of New York to the assassination in this film, right? Both feature Day-Lewis and both feature Lincoln...

Also Steven, can we get a big speech at the end of this where he wishes he had freed more slaves?
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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#63 Post by James Mills »

stroszeck wrote:What could be more perfect than a photo of a confederate soldier bearing his rifle alongside a hollywood douchebag nursing a frapuccino...
Post of the year [x]
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#64 Post by knives »

MyNameCriterionForum wrote: Also Steven, can we get a big speech at the end of this where he wishes he had freed more slaves?
Actually that's a possibility since the 14th amendment originally did not end slavery in all of the states, just the confederate states.
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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#65 Post by CSM126 »

Perhaps Lincoln can break down into hysterical fits of tears while trying to peddle his watch to raise money to buy one more slave's freedom, while the audience breaks out in hysterical fits of laughter at the awfulness of the acting.
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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#66 Post by mfunk9786 »

James Mills wrote:
stroszeck wrote:What could be more perfect than a photo of a confederate soldier bearing his rifle alongside a hollywood douchebag nursing a frapuccino...
Post of the year [x]
Have any of you ever had a frappucino? Or do you realize that movies get made in current time, and there are no time machines involved?
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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#67 Post by Matt »

mfunk9786 wrote:Or do you realize that movies get made in current time, and there are no time machines involved?
That is such a 1-percenter thing to say. OCCUPY TIME MACHINES! OCCUPY CIVIL WAR MOVIES! OCCUPY COFFEE CUPS!
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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#68 Post by Tom Hagen »

Spielberg should have followed DDL's lead on this. Instead of a film, he should have just shot a bunch of Mathew Brady-style albumen print photos of people churning butter and brandishing muzzle loaders.
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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#69 Post by Jeff »

James Mills wrote:
stroszeck wrote:What could be more perfect than a photo of a confederate soldier bearing his rifle alongside a hollywood douchebag nursing a frapuccino...
Post of the year [x]
I think we've already covered Confederate versus Union uniforms, but there is still confusion, so here is what a douchebag and a Frappuccino look like. I'll leave it to you to determine which is which.

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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#71 Post by mfunk9786 »

:shock:
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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#72 Post by Matt »

Shall we just hand him the Oscar right now? Doesn't look like he's wearing any false nose or wig or anything. Let's compare:

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[from 2002, Vanity Fair]
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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#73 Post by mfunk9786 »

Sounds like the battle between Daniel Day Lewis and Joaquin Phoenix will be the biggest Oscar heavyweight fight in decades.
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Re: Lincoln (Steven Spielberg, 2012)

#74 Post by oldsheperd »

Eh, Mr. Show already nailed this along time ago.

I am curious to see how Spielberg throws in his typical pathos
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#75 Post by Highway 61 »

mfunk9786 wrote:Sounds like the battle between Daniel Day Lewis and Joaquin Phoenix will be the biggest Oscar heavyweight fight in decades.
Don't forget Bill Murray. I'm sure all the hype this year will be about a Lincoln/FDR showdown.
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