Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol. 4

[matrixschmatrix]

Hoping for that Wenders box set, and maybe City Lights.

[Graham]

Heaven's Gate
Looking For Mr Goodbar (wishful thinking)
Foreign Correspondent
Le Samourai
On The Waterfront

[zedz]

I'm going to abuse the random part of the header right now, but is it safe to assume that Criterion will never in a million years release any of the films Donald Richie directed even the ones in that Japanese set?

I can't imagine any of those experimental shorts ending up on a Criterion release (unless there's some strong connection to a more marketable director that I'm missing, and one of them gets stuck on as an extra). An essay film like The Inland Sea might be more of a possibility, though it's technically not directed by Richie, but again, it's more like an extra and I don't recall it having a particularly strong connection to any one film or filmmaker.

[movielocke]

November predictions:

Brazil Bluray
Spartacus bluray
On the Waterfront
Trilogy of Life
Eraserhead
Mulhulland Dr.
Heavens Gate
Pina
etaix eclipse

a good chunk of that will probably be in December, maybe the lynch films or the Trilogy of Life. Wenders is still rumored to be coming too...

[matrixschmatrix]

I get the feeling they're going to tease us more on Eraserhead, and as I recall there isn't really any evidence for Mullholland Dr. It's pretty short after the clue for Heaven's Gate, too.

If Criterion releases Pina, that'd be interesting- it really does require the 3d to be of any value, and I'd be very interested to see how Criterion would handle a 3d blu.

[knives]

I'm going to abuse the random part of the header right now, but is it safe to assume that Criterion will never in a million years release any of the films Donald Richie directed even the ones in that Japanese set?

I can't imagine any of those experimental shorts ending up on a Criterion release (unless there's some strong connection to a more marketable director that I'm missing, and one of them gets stuck on as an extra). An essay film like The Inland Sea might be more of a possibility, though it's technically not directed by Richie, but again, it's more like an extra and I don't recall it having a particularly strong connection to any one film or filmmaker.

That's what I thought. At least there's hope that his Kurosawa film might be released on Madadayo.

[Perkins Cobb]

If my intel is right, they're going to announce an Eclipse that contains some surprises but also delivers on a very long-delayed title.

[knives]

Eclipse 37: Here's Rivette Already You Annoying Fucks.

[Matt]

If my intel is right, they're going to announce an Eclipse that contains some surprises but also delivers on a very long-delayed title.

At long last, Cousin, Cousine.

[feihong]

Eclipse 37: Here's Rivette Already You Annoying Fucks.

Hahaha! [-o< [-o< [-o<

[ryannichols7]

long delayed title? is it one that should be in the mainline?

Pasolini's Trilogy of Life
Four Films by Wim Wenders (Road Trilogy+American Friend)
Y Tu Mama También
Week End
On the Waterfront
Band of Outsiders
Le Samourai
The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp
that surprise Eclipse or whatever

i know two boxsets is probably a stretch, but we did get two last year (though one was an upgrade), so it's not totally out of the question. definitely feel like Pasolini was pushed back at the last second from October.

[What A Disgrace]

My guess is that the long delayed title will be Jour de fete.

[captveg]

My guess is that the long delayed title will be Jour de fete.

I would love for that and Parade to finally make it out (and Blu upgrades of M. Hulot's Holiday and Mon Oncle, of course).

[Perkins Cobb]

I don't see Tati as fitting into Eclipse, much as I'd take Jour de Fete any way it was offered.

I love how the August guesses all take the form of "here's my last shot this year at everything they promised and didn't deliver, even though it's twice as many titles as they've ever released in a single month."

[What A Disgrace]

Oh, I missed the Eclipse set bit for some reason. Yeah, if they Eclipse Jour de fete, I'm probably going to eat them.

[ianungstad]

I'll guess:

Trilogy of Life
On the Waterfront
Y Tu Mama Tambien
The King of Comedy
Soft Skin
blu/dvd: Rashomon
Eclipse: Short films of Martin Scorsese

[matrixschmatrix]

Wouldn't Scorsese's shorts all fit on one disc? That would be an interesting Eclipse- but my guess is, he's well enough known that it would be a waste of market potential.

[ianungstad]

I was trying to think of a set that would contain some surprises and deliver on a long rumored title. I could see them doing a 2 dvd set like Shepiko/Bernard. Your right that it might be too high profile for Eclipse.

[knives]

Yeah, I imagine if they have Kundun they'd mix the short films with that. The Etaix eclipse is the only definite that we haven't gotten yet, but I'm thinking back to the very first eclipse announcement and am suspecting that we might finally see that New Wave set.

[movielocke]

hmm, eclipse, I guess these are possibilities for 'long delayed'

III. STALLED EX-CERTAINTIES: [Officially announced titles that have run into some kind of technical hitch and are now in limbo]

ANTONIONI, Michelangelo - LA NOTTE - interview confirmation - “Problems finding elements for release” - Source (Last update: 2007 - IMDB
Michelangelo Antonioni / 1961 / Italy / France

CASSAVETES, John - LOVE STREAMS (Criterion wants to work on, not confirmed yet) (Last Update: 10/09) - (“We're trying to free it up, but there is some kind of obstruction, and we haven't been able to get detailed information about precisely what it is, yet. Maybe music clearances... Stay tuned.”) Last Update: 11/09)

FEYDER, Jacques - CARNIVAL IN FLANDERS (“materials are stuck”) (Last Update: 10/09)

VON STERNBERG, Josef - SHANGHAI EXPRESS (Last Update: 06/08) - Missing footage issues (Last Update: 11/09)

YANG, Edward - A BRIGHTER SUMMER DAY (Last Update: 06/09) - Permission/Licensing problems (Last Update: 11/09)

I'm guessing it's a von Sternberg set or a Paramount set with Shanghai express. Pre-Code Paramount maybe? or possibly a way to include Ruggles of Red Gap? if so they could go for a very cheesy title like "The Paramount of Paramount Pictures."

Others I could think of as long delayed might be Mizoguchi (Utamaro, Chysanthemums etc) or Renoir, (Monsieur Lange, a Day in the Country) or the French New Wave set.

[zedz]

I don't see Tati as fitting into Eclipse, much as I'd take Jour de Fete any way it was offered.

Given that there are two distinct versions of Jour de Fete that Criterion should be releasing, and no other films to fit into an Eclipse set with it (except for Parade, which only fits because it's the last Tati available), that's not going to happen.

EDIT: A lot of these other suggestions seem equally crazy, in the sense of Criterion being unlikely to squander a valuable licensed title like Shanghai Express in an Eclipse set, or perplexing, in that there's no significant connection between Kundun and a film Scorsese made about his mother cooking spaghetti twenty years earlier. (Also, why cut potential sales in half by condensing two highly marketable Scorsese releases into one?)

[movielocke]

I love how the August guesses all take the form of "here's my last shot this year at everything they promised and didn't deliver, even though it's twice as many titles as they've ever released in a single month."

Yup, and that's without anyone mentioning Following or Rashomon yet!

[Cinephrenic]

Eclipse 37: The Jailbait films of David Hamilton.

[Fierias]

Maybe a Bruno Dumont eclipse? L'humanite and Life of Jesus were supposed to come a while back, no?

[Peacock]

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