Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol. 5

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captveg
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#826 Post by captveg »

lefeufollet wrote:
Selected on-screen presentation of Del Toro’s thumbnail sketches alongside the sections of the final film they represent (Blu-ray edition only)
Has any previous title included on-disc supplements exclusive to the Blu-ray?
Yes, sparingly.

This sounds like Criterion's first Picture-in-Picture bonus (think Warner's Maximum Movie Mode).
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#827 Post by captveg »

Lord of the Flies is still listed as 1.37:1. Hopefully that's a holdover from the earlier release's spec. It should be 1.66:1, I believe.
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#828 Post by movielocke »

captveg wrote:Lord of the Flies is still listed as 1.37:1. Hopefully that's a holdover from the earlier release's spec. It should be 1.66:1, I believe.
Right, hopefully they correct this on the bluray. Summertime is also in the wrong aspect ratio on the DVD, I keep thinking they'll upgrade that one, and they keep not doing it. :/
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#829 Post by lefeufollet »

captveg wrote:
lefeufollet wrote:
Selected on-screen presentation of Del Toro’s thumbnail sketches alongside the sections of the final film they represent (Blu-ray edition only)
Has any previous title included on-disc supplements exclusive to the Blu-ray?
Yes, sparingly.

This sounds like Criterion's first Picture-in-Picture bonus (think Warner's Maximum Movie Mode).
Ah, thanks!
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#830 Post by Ashirg »

Another month with no eclipse.
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#831 Post by ptatler »

Not the blockbuster July anticipated. Definitely getting FLIES, FEAST, and OHARU. I'm bummed about the Eclipse but SHOAH and the Etiax thing have kind of made up for the lack this year.

By this time last year, however, we had Gorin, Downey, Pearls, and Gremillon.
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#832 Post by Perkins Cobb »

Well, that's a major snooze, except for Oharu.
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#833 Post by tavernier »

Perkins Cobb wrote:Well, that's a major snooze, except for Babette.
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#834 Post by Vegeta84 »

Oharu and Devil's Backbone look good to me.

Still, another month without any Gosha titles. Gah!! Well it looks like Criterion now has The Oil Hell Murder as well. That's four without a disc release!
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#835 Post by EddieLarkin »

captveg wrote:Lord of the Flies is still listed as 1.37:1. Hopefully that's a holdover from the earlier release's spec. It should be 1.66:1, I believe.
1.75:1 if Bob Furmanek's recent Widescreen Documentation article is anything to go by:

http://www.3dfilmarchive.com/home/wides ... umentation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
By 1958, based on reports of UK films in production at the time, less than 10% were intended for 1.66:1. The majority were now composed for either 1.75:1 or 1.85:1 exhibition.

That ratio was still the UK standard in March of 1964 when A HARD DAYS NIGHT went before the cameras. It premiered on July 6, 1964, and 1.75:1 was printed in the leader to insure the correct presentation in Walter Shenson's intended ratio.
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#836 Post by ryannichols7 »

i think they're definitely doing away with Eclipse and instead putting everything on Bluray, or promoting Hulu more

which is a good idea, really
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#837 Post by knives »

There's no evidence of that and it is a ridiculous assumption.
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#838 Post by Drucker »

ryannichols7 wrote:i think they're definitely doing away with Eclipse and instead putting everything on Bluray, or promoting Hulu more

which is a good idea, really
Well I disagree about that. For risky titles the Eclipse set is ideal. If it's between no Gremillion or DVD only, I'd 100% go with the latter for almost anything. And Criterion sure has oodles of titles that are perfectly suited for Eclipse.
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#839 Post by jedgeco »

Drucker wrote:
ryannichols7 wrote:i think they're definitely doing away with Eclipse and instead putting everything on Bluray, or promoting Hulu more

which is a good idea, really
Well I disagree about that. For risky titles the Eclipse set is ideal. If it's between no Gremillion or DVD only, I'd 100% go with the latter for almost anything. And Criterion sure has oodles of titles that are perfectly suited for Eclipse.
The original intention of Eclipse was for Criterion to be able to release films from its category that it was sitting on but didn't have time/resources to restore, supplement, etc. But now, they can just stream all those titles on Hulu directly, without having to put them through the disc production process. While I prefer physical media, putting what would be Eclipse titles on Hulu would seems to be a better use of resources. YMMV, of course.
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#840 Post by Perkins Cobb »

Getting rid of Eclipse and making the more obscure titles available only through streaming would be a nightmarishly bad idea. Talk about water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink....
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#841 Post by Giulio »

Still, another month without any oshima or rossellini, sad sad sad
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#842 Post by swo17 »

So you've only been happy like seven months of your life?
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#843 Post by Cinephrenic »

End of Eclipse?
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#844 Post by swo17 »

Perkins Cobb wrote:Getting rid of Eclipse and making the more obscure titles available only through streaming would be a nightmarishly bad idea. Talk about water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink....
I'll watch anything (even Norman Mailer) that Criterion releases on the Eclipse line. You have no such guarantee from me for Hulu-exclusive titles.
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#845 Post by Matt »

ryannichols7 wrote:i think they're definitely doing away with Eclipse
knives wrote:There's no evidence of that and it is a ridiculous assumption.
It might be a hasty assumption, but 7 sets in 2012 compared to only 1 in the first 7 months of 2013 is strong evidence at least for a decline in interest on Criterion's part in keeping the series going.
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#846 Post by jedgeco »

We've plenty of hearsay and conjecture. Those are kinds of evidence.
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#847 Post by MongooseCmr »

swo17 wrote:
Perkins Cobb wrote:Getting rid of Eclipse and making the more obscure titles available only through streaming would be a nightmarishly bad idea. Talk about water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink....
I'll watch anything (even Norman Mailer) that Criterion releases on the Eclipse line. You have no such guarantee from me for Hulu-exclusive titles.
I see your point. There's so much stuff on Hulu that its hard to tell which obscure Japanese film is worth your time. Eclipse was like Criterion's stamp of approval. If the sets didn't sell who can blame them though. Maybe they should have figured the two melodrama sets in a row wouldn't be huge hits but still.
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#848 Post by Cinephrenic »

Why not release a separate line with barebone lower prices. Sort of like HVe before?
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#849 Post by knives »

Matt wrote:
ryannichols7 wrote:i think they're definitely doing away with Eclipse
knives wrote:There's no evidence of that and it is a ridiculous assumption.
It might be a hasty assumption, but 7 sets in 2012 compared to only 1 in the first 7 months of 2013 is strong evidence at least for a decline in interest on Criterion's part in keeping the series going.
I e-mailed Crit a few months back and they replied essentially saying that Eclipse was here to stay and they were developing some nice sets. I'd take that to mean more than the actual release schedule which may have been affected by rights issues pushing other titles forward or back.
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#850 Post by matrixschmatrix »

I do certainly think that the Etaix set was originally an Eclipse set that got bumped up, though even with that this would be a slow year for the line.
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