Awards Season 2013

[domino harvey]

'Cepting DBC I don't see any of those risking the right mixture of mediocrity and squandered opportunity to knock 12 Years up. That said at its worst it's a film like Broken Arrow where you can sympathize with what it's doing historically even if the film itself doesn't match up.

I thought you were talking about the Samantha Mathis/Christian Slater action movie for a second and I was like, "What's the historical significance again?"

[flyonthewall2983]

I missed the "In Memoriam" but is it true they left out Dennis Farina? By the way, does anyone know what song played underneath it? Someone in another forum is asking and thought maybe someone here would know it.

[knives]

Ha, I wasn't even sure if I was thinking of the right Daves picture at first so mixing it with a Travolta joint isn't the worst deed of the day.

[captveg]

I'm pretending Ridley won fifteen years after the fact for the bonkers U Turn instead

The Academy was making up for his Undercover Brother snub.

It ain't no thang.

(I adore Undercover Brother, BTW. Hysterical.)

[DarkImbecile]

Domino, I haven't seen Nebraska or Philomena yet either, but I'd be stunned if you (or anyone, really) thinks Dallas Buyer's Club is better than 12 Years a Slave. DBC is basically a competent paint-by-numbers biopic boosted by some excellent performances; perhaps the story might resonate with some people more than that of 12 Years, but on basically every level the latter is superior. In fact, you could make the case that DBC shares most of 12 Years' flaws, without some of its positives.

[domino harvey]

They didn't mention Farina. Though Elemore Leonard was cited for Joe Kidd, so I'm not sure what was going on with whoever put it together!

[captveg]

...and because I was killing time before the show started by reading one of those Oscar books I picked up, I can now confirm, per our earlier debate, that according to the numerous citations within Inside Oscar 2 Braveheart was not only not pegged to win in 1995, it was actually running fourth for most predictors. Much confusion from pundits and celebs alike greeted its win. Apparently golden child Meryl Streep even mouthed something along the lines of "What the fuck" when it won, which is awesome. Anyways, back to the present....

Awesome. My guess is that must have been a very split vote and that it likely didn't win by much.

[flyonthewall2983]

Did Gandolfini at least merit a mention?

[domino harvey]

Did Gandolfini at least merit a mention?

He was in fact the first

[CSM126]

Did Gandolfini at least merit a mention?

He was in fact the first

"Actor: Enough Said". His most beloved role, I'm sure.

[flyonthewall2983]

Was the audience muted again?

[domino harvey]

Yes. Also, Bill Murray said something about Ramis while presenting

[Sonmi451]

Domino, I haven't seen Nebraska or Philomena yet either, but I'd be stunned if you (or anyone, really) thinks Dallas Buyer's Club is better than 12 Years a Slave. DBC is basically a competent paint-by-numbers biopic boosted by some excellent performances; perhaps the story might resonate with some people more than that of 12 Years, but on basically every level the latter is superior. In fact, you could make the case that DBC shares most of 12 Years' flaws, without some of its positives.

I couldn't disagree more, really. DBC has more characterization and vibrancy in its first 20 minutes than 12 Years has in its entire considerable running time.

[knives]

I couldn't disagree more, really. DBC has more characterization and vibrancy in its first 20 minutes than 12 Years has in its entire considerable running time.

I think more simply DBC's story is so much more small scale that by virtue of keeping things limited it had to give more breathing room for characterization. 12 Years a Slave often played like to me as if it were the cliff notes summary to a 13 or 14 hour film.

[domino harvey]

If John Travolta had to pronounce everyone's name at the Oscars

[Shrew]

As I've kind of argued in the film's thread, 12 Years is a film about decharacterization.

[Bando]

I missed the "In Memoriam" but is it true they left out Dennis Farina? By the way, does anyone know what song played underneath it? Someone in another forum is asking and thought maybe someone here would know it.

It's was theme from Somewhere in Time, wasn't it?

[Jeff]

If John Travolta had to pronounce everyone's name at the Oscars

I'm assuming "the wick-ed-ly talented, one and only Adele Dazeem" was an L. Ron Hubbard creation.

[domino harvey]

One thing we can all agree on is Bradley Cooper's girlfriend, right

[Bando]

If John Travolta had to pronounce everyone's name at the Oscars

I'm assuming "the wick-ed-ly talented, one and only Adele Dazeem" was an L. Ron Hubbard creation.

Could this Adele Dazeem actually be the wick-ed-ly talented person who concocted that silly fantasy he's currently affixing to his head?

[captveg]

I'll say this as my final note on the night - next year needs a major upset in one of the 6 major categories (Picture, Director, Acting). These have become so easy to predict the last 6-7 years. The internet and the numerous collaboration of prognosticators has nailed each and every one it seems for a while. And in those rare instances where they've failed to predict the winners the award has gone to their runner-up prediction. We need another Marisa Tomei / My Cousin Vinny moment.

[Feego]

I missed the "In Memoriam" but is it true they left out Dennis Farina?

The most surprising omissions would probably have to be Jonathan Winters and Bryan Forbes.

[domino harvey]

Although we still couldn't even escape It's a Maddddddddddddddddddddddddd &c fever at the Oscars

[Sonmi451]

I'll say this as my final note on the night - next year needs a major upset in one of the 6 major categories (Picture, Director, Acting). These have become so easy to predict the last 6-7 years. The internet and the numerous collaboration of prognosticators has nailed each and every one it seems for a while. And in those rare instances where they've failed to predict the winners the award has gone to their runner-up prediction. We need another Marisa Tomei / My Cousin Vinny moment.

For sure. I went 21 for 21 in my Oscar pool, putting all of 10 minutes into filling it out. The definition of predictability.

[domino harvey]

To paraphrase Jeremy Goodwin for the nth time, is it the goal of an award show to be cunning?