Absolutely!artfilmfan wrote:There are plenty of these stuffs in Floating Clouds.
(And there is some really intense black humor -- here and there).
I really do see Naruse as a (somewhat more subtle) precursor of Imamura. ;~}
Absolutely!artfilmfan wrote:There are plenty of these stuffs in Floating Clouds.
Especially the walking. Oh, I just love how in the beginning of "Floating Clouds" we see Masayuki Mori and Hideko Takamine walking through this post war Japan, and Naruse films from behind. I also really love how his films always are so good looking. Oh, and his female characters like Hideko Takamine always has these sad but beautiful looks on her face.artfilmfan wrote:There are plenty of these stuffs in Floating Clouds.Michael Kerpan wrote: What does Naruse do very well? Non-verbal communication between characters, ... , great scenes of people walking together... superb editing... On a thematic level, showing people (usually women), who just don't give up.
To which we could add: impeccable taste in choosing properties to adapt.Michael Kerpan wrote:What does Naruse do very well? Non-verbal communication between characters, extremely atmospheric and interesting lighting, great scenes of people walking together. superb editing (fitting tiny pieces into fantastic mosaics). On a thematic level, showing people (usually women), who just don't give up.
Surprisingly enough, he usually had very little say as to what sources his films would be based on. but he was dedicated to the works of Fumiko Hayashi -- and did eventually get the chance to adapt several of her works. Acording to one of his screen writers (not sure whether it was Yoko Mizuki or Sumie Tanaka), Naruse's main role in dealing with scripts was cutting immense amounts of dialog (and then conveying anything "essential" in the cut material by some sort of non-verbal means). Every now and then, he got stuck with a project that was too wordy -- and wasn't given the opportunity to do his typical ruthless dialog pruning, in which case you get a comparative clunker like Battle of the Roses.Jack Phillips wrote:To which we could add: impeccable taste in choosing properties to adapt.
Are you saying that Floating Clouds, Late Chrysanthemums (from the stories Bangiku/Suisen/Shirasagi), Wife, Lightning, and Meshi were studio assignments? Amazing if true. Btw, do you happen to know whose idea it was to put together the stories that make up Late Chrysanthemums?Michael Kerpan wrote:Surprisingly enough, he usually had very little say as to what sources his films would be based on. but he was dedicated to the works of Fumiko Hayashi -- and did eventually get the chance to adapt several of her works.Jack Phillips wrote:To which we could add: impeccable taste in choosing properties to adapt.
As you see, she can't account for the move to Daiei, but I have to wonder if perhaps Naruse went there because they would let him do a property that was facing resistance at Toho. Anyway, Russell must be right that after scoring a second success with a Hayashi novel, management at Toho was keen to let Naruse do more such adaptations.This film was made at Daiei studio, with Tanaka Sumie, who also worked on Meshi, as scriptwriter. Although it is not clear why Naruse went to Daiei for this picture, the fact that he was able to work with Takamine and Tanaka indicates the extent of the “borrowing” practices that went on within the industry. Naruse’s success with Lightning (which won second place in the Kinema Junpo’s 1952 rankings) and Meshi encouraged Toho executives to pair Naruse again with Hayashi, and in the seven films he ended up making from her stories, she arguably had a postwar revival, despite her untimely death in 1951.
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I'm of course speculating here, but might Fujimoto have provided the necessary buffer between Naruse and management that allowed Naruse to do what he wanted, but with the full consent of his employers?Fujimoto Sanezumi, who produced nine of Naruse’s films during this mid-1950s period, also directed three of the director’s films during the war and three during the occupation. According to Nogami Teruyo, he was blacklisted and subsequently depurged in 1952, although her dates are not consistent with other reports. Thus, while the model of the director system established by Kiro Shido at Shochiku prevailed as the most successful system in postwar Japan, and both Kurosawa and Naruse were established as the heads of production units at Toho, Naruse’s kumi also included a powerful producer whose role in the stability and success of the director’s career through the 1950s should not be underestimated.
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Yes, of course, standard industry practice. I think Russell's point, though, was that there was something about the Lightning project that was non-standard. For example, Naruse got to bring Takamine, Toho's big star. By way of contrast, when Ozu went to Daiei for Floating Weeds, he used for his lead Ganjirô Nakamura, who was not a Shochiku actor. But these deals are complicated, perhaps uniquely so in each case, and anyway, Russell admits she doesn't know the whole story.Michael Kerpan wrote:Usually studio directors only worked for other studios when they were loaned out (possibly as part of a deal to borrow actors/actresses for some other project).
This supports what you were saying: Naruse didn't so much choose Meshi as he lucked into it. Then, given its success, the studio gave him other Hayashi assignments to adapt. Still, I find it strange that Toho would loan out a formula that was a proven success (Naruse-Hayashi-Tanaka) to Daiei for the Lightning project, but I guess stranger things have happened.Meshi was originally scheduled to be directed by Chiba Yasuki and was offered to Naruse only when Chiba became ill. Ide Toshiro says that it was unusual for Naruse to be asked to substitute for a younger and less established director, and moreover, because he had not made a successful film since the 1930s, some Toho executives were reluctant to give him such a valuable star-studded property to direct. Ever the company man, Naruse humbly accepted the project, and its huge success propelled him into the next decade with a string of critical and commercial hits.
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I have to see this now. I wonder, how were you able to see so many Naruse films?Michael Kerpan wrote:Possibly the most visually beautiful moment in Naruse will probably NEVER make it to DVD -- namely the Noh dance lessons in a forest glen in Uta Andon (song Lantern) -- absolutely amazing use of shade and light.
I've only seen about half as many Naruse films as Michael, and when I began, I remembered hearing that one of his defining qualities as a technician was his masterful use of space in limited, interior settings. However, adding to the list of things that Naruse did extremely well (although it was somewhat sparingly used in his films) was his brilliant use of exterior filming with some of his on-location shots. As Michael has pointed out, there are great examples in films like Older Brother, Younger Sister, Autumn Approaches, The Song Lantern, Spring Awakens, to name a few.Michael Kerpan wrote:What does Naruse do very well? Non-verbal communication between characters, extremely atmospheric and interesting lighting, great scenes of people walking together. superb editing (fitting tiny pieces into fantastic mosaics). On a thematic level, showing people (usually women), who just don't give up.
My favorite of the 20 or so Naruses I've seen. [Though, to be sure, I'm nearly as big a Naruse fan as most posters here.]Michael Kerpan wrote:Scattered Clouds is indeed wonderful.
It's available on HuluPlus.yoshimori wrote:My favorite of the 20 or so Naruses I've seen. [Though, to be sure, I'm nearly as big a Naruse fan as most posters here.]Michael Kerpan wrote:Scattered Clouds is indeed wonderful.
I'm surprised this one doesn't seem to be English-friendly available. … Or am I wrong?