Forthcoming Lists Discussion & Random Speculation

[oldsheperd]

What porn classic and where can I purchase it?

[denti alligator]

What more can they put on Grey Gardens:

Especially since the current edition is single-layered. They could pack a lot more extras onto a second layer without having to go to 2 DVDs. They must have A LOT of stuff for this one.

[Narshty]

Good to know that these are going to be 2-discers.

Not necessarily. Pickpocket had a 39 MRSP and was a one-discer. I thought we had concluded that the presence of a commentary, and not the number of discs, was the deciding factor (though it seems that a 2-discer w/o commentary will always still be at least the $39 MSRP).

It's a shame - for a brief tantalising period last year, one-discers with commentary were happily reduced to $29.95. Then, came September, they bumped it back up once again.

[Cinesimilitude]

I bet Gallows is spine 331, to be coupled with the Malle Boxset.

[Gigi M.]

What more can they put on Grey Gardens:

Especially since the current edition is single-layered. They could pack a lot more extras onto a second layer without having to go to 2 DVDs. They must have A LOT of stuff for this one.

Bullshit. I don't care what else they put on this disc. I dished out $39.95 for this film, and now they're releasing the same thing, just with a few more extras. I respected the way Criterion used to protect (or protect) their customers, but now, if this is really a new edition, they're no worse than any other big studio.

I guess the old one will remain in print as 1-diser, pretty much like The Life Acuatic.

[Cinephrenic]

Not necessarily. Pickpocket had a 39 MRSP and was a one-discer. I thought we had concluded that the presence of a commentary, and not the number of discs, was the deciding factor (though it seems that a 2-discer w/o commentary will always still be at least the $39 MSRP).

I knew this would come up. But given the both film's reputations and inavailability might suggest this.

[cgray]

But given the both film's reputations and inavailability might suggest this.

:-k

[Narshty]

Bullshit. I don't care what else they put on this disc. I dished out $39.95 for this film, and now they're releasing the same thing, just with a few more extras. I respected the way Criterion used to protect (or protect) their customers, but now, if this is really a new edition, they're no worse than any other big studio.

This re-release sounds very much like a special favour to Albert Maysles - I can't imagine the original was in any way a big seller. Nevertheless, there are still lots of holes in the history of the Beales missing from both the film and supplements on the current DVD and while it is a peculiar choice of reissue I trust all involved have put together something pretty impressive and authoritative.

[cdnchris]

So if I have the Truffaut box set, am I supposed to buy yet another copy of 400 blows? This will now be my third. Criterion is beginning to really piss me off.

I'm going to assume all they're doing is releasing their latest 400 Blows (from the set) on its own since it's more popular than the other titles. They probably listened to all the people who refuse to buy the set and decided there was more money in it if they just released it on its own.

The Monterey releases puzzle me, though. For about the price of the two you can get the whole set with the outtakes.

[htdm]

Elevator to the Gallows
SRP: $39.95

Yes! I have been waiting on this one for years!

[Narshty]

The Monterey releases puzzle me, though. For about the price of the two you can get the whole set with the outtakes.

Yeah, but the less-than-scintillating outtakes set you back an extra $20. I could buy another whole movie for that.

[toiletduck!]

The Monterey releases puzzle me, though. For about the price of the two you can get the whole set with the outtakes.

And unlike the Doinel set, Monterey Pop seemed to be a universally loved package. I've yet to hear anything along the lines of "Sweet deal, Jimi Hendrix AND Otis Redding!!! w00t!!! P.S. Fuck the Mamas and the Papas, Janis Joplin, Simon and Garfunkel, The Who, The Byrds, Ravi Shankar, and Tiny Tim. Poseurs."

Well, ok, maybe Tiny Tim, but you get the point.

-Toilet Dcuk

EDIT: Narshty, are you out to prove me wrong? In real-time even?

[cdnchris]

The Monterey releases puzzle me, though. For about the price of the two you can get the whole set with the outtakes.

Yeah, but the less-than-scintillating outtakes set you back an extra $20. I could buy another whole movie for that.

Okay, I'll give you that. I forgot it was $20 more.

[Tribe]

I've yet to hear anything along the lines of "Sweet deal, Jimi Hendrix AND Otis Redding!!! w00t!!! P.S. Fuck the Mamas and the Papas, Janis Joplin, Simon and Garfunkel, The Who, The Byrds, Ravi Shankar, and Tiny Tim. Poseurs."

Well, I can imagine there's more than one old hippy who is still bitching cause he wasted good acid during the Shankar set.

Tribe

[peerpee]

Meaning that Shankar was so trippy they didn't need acid? --- or that Shankar was shite?

[justeleblanc]

So is this The 400 Blows: Holy Shnikke edition?

[toiletduck!]

Les Quatre Cents Deux Coups: Electric Boogaloo

-Toilet Dcuk

[siberry]

http://www.gothamist.com/archives/2005/ ... aysles.php

AM: In fact, we just looked through a lot of footage from Gray Gardens that wasn't in the film, and we pulled an hour-and-a-half of gems. Just fabulous stuff. There's a moment when Edie turns to us and says, "I had several boyfriends in the war. And they were all of course very physically fit and handsome, but some of them didn't come back. That's no way to fight a war. Wars should be fought by men who are physically disabled and then they won't hurt each other." All of that just popped up out of her head. It wasn't an answer to any question.

[Ted Todorov]

Man -- this is just sad. I have all the stuff being re-released, and while I love Elevator to the Gallows and I will pick it up, I did see it twice recently, so my excitement is way limited.

The single disc re-releases are IMHO absolutely pointless.

[Cinéslob]

http://www.gothamist.com/archives/2005/ ... aysles.php

AM: In fact, we just looked through a lot of footage from Gray Gardens that wasn't in the film, and we pulled an hour-and-a-half of gems. Just fabulous stuff. There's a moment when Edie turns to us and says, "I had several boyfriends in the war. And they were all of course very physically fit and handsome, but some of them didn't come back. That's no way to fight a war. Wars should be fought by men who are physically disabled and then they won't hurt each other." All of that just popped up out of her head. It wasn't an answer to any question.

Is Edie [from Grey Gardens] still alive?
No, she died about a year ago.

Had you kept in touch with her?
Oh yeah. She wrote lots of letters. She moved to Florida, so she kept up through correspondence and telephone calls. In fact, one of the phone calls is recorded, and it's on the DVD of Grey Gardens. Right now we're putting together a scrap book of Grey Gardens which will include a lot of letters and photographs. Also we've put together an hour and a half of outs from the film. Criterion is going to distribute it.

Sounds like it's going to be a good 'un! Of course, not owning the original disc of Grey Gardens, I would say that...

[foofighters7]

Hmmm. Well gigimonagas dont buy it, do you have some kind of compulsion to HAVE to buy the updated version?? They put the film out with extras, this isnt a screw job by Criterion, its been a few years since this original release so they have added new extras, new footage, whatever. Sell your copy now and buy that one, or just stop complaining. Aparently you dont care much about the film, because if you did you wouldnt be throwing a fit over it. Unless your just realllllly cheap!! OH and why are you paying the MSRP anyways?

And why is there so much talk about these single discers from sets anyways?

Theyre not getting new spine #s, nothing new is going to be on them. They are just for the people who are to cheap to get the box sets, yet still want the film, which doesnt bother me, but its nothing special at all.

ARGH!!!

[Cinephrenic]

While these are nice news, we are really getting only two new titles out in April. This sucks. It seems like this year will be the year of the re-issues and releases along with three Kurosawa re-issues and Tati.

[justeleblanc]

And what about more Godard. There's still a handful of titles they've been hinting at such as Pierrot and My Life to Live.

[Andre Jurieu]

And what about more Godard. There's still a handful of titles they've been hinting at such as Pierrot and My Life to Live.

Sorry, but how exactly have they been hinting at these titles? We've speculated that these will be releases by Criterion based on information that is floating around that has lead us to claim they are definite possibilities, but as far as I know Criterion has never lead us to believe that the company will be releasing these titles with any degree of certainty. I have not seen these titles mentioned on the News section of their site or read any public statement by anyone associated to the Criterion Collection regarding the release of these titles.

[kappoka]

I always get a kick out of Andre's negative vibes. Will you please just trust me. Why would I post something that was 'rumor' or 'speculation'?
Do you think I need attention that much?
Just because it has not been made officially public to you yet, does not mean that the titles in question are false or imagined.