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798 Death by Hanging

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Death by Hanging

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Genius provocateur Nagisa Oshima (In the Realm of the Senses), an influential figure in the Japanese New Wave of the 1960s, made one of his most startling political statements with the compelling pitch-black satire Death by Hanging. In this macabre farce, a Korean man is sentenced to death in Japan but survives his execution, sending the authorities into a panic about what to do next. At once disturbing and oddly amusing, Oshima's constantly surprising film is a subversive and surreal indictment of both capital punishment and the treatment of Korean immigrants in his country.

SPECIAL FEATURES

• New, restored 4K digital transfer, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray
• New interview with critic Tony Rayns
• New high-definition digital transfer of director Nagisa Oshima's 1965 experimental short documentary Diary of Yunbogi
• Trailer
• New English subtitle translation
• PLUS: An essay by critic Howard Hampton
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#2 Post by knives »

By itself this is one of Criterion's most exciting releases in a while, but that short boosts things up to Les Blank level surprise. Is anyone (Zedz?) familiar with it and how it connects with this or any of Oshima's other films of the period?
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It's probably Oshima's most well-known short, in that it was the only one that ever got a U.S. distributor (New Yorker had it for awhile) and a DVD release in Japan. It's Oshima narrating over still photographs he shot on a trip to South Korea, centered on the street kid of the title but also encompassing Korean militarism and industrialization, the protests against Syngman Rhee, and the legacy of Japanese colonialism—the last of which is also absolutely critical to Death by Hanging (as well as Three Resurrected Drunkards and the short Forgotten Soldiers). I wish Criterion had included "With a Heavy Heart, I Speak of Korea," an essay Oshima wrote around the same time as the making of the two shorts and which is discussed briefly in Maureen Turim's book, but maybe it was too long for the booklet.
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Really excited by this. I've only seen maybe six or seven Oshimas but this is the only one I can say I actually loved. I saw it about about ten years ago and I can't remember a film striking me as more Brechtian either before or since.
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Very happy to see "Diary of Yunbogi" as an extra. Heard about it by listening to the commentary on "Sorrow Even Up In Heaven" in which the director said that had Oshima "stole" the idea after watching "Sorrow Even Up In Heaven" and didn't acknowledge it until many years later.
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#6 Post by teddyleevin »

This film is a great companion piece to Three Resurrected Drunkards (or the other way around). I've thought about it a lot since I first saw it and excited to see it here! Sad to see there aren't more extras, but I guess there wasn't that much else available.
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Ok I'll be the douche who makes the joke asking if this film is about Ygor from Son of Frankenstein:
, a .. man is sentenced to death in Japan but survives his execution, sending the authorities into a panic about what to do next. At once disturbing and oddly amusing,
That's Ygor and Belas "disturbing and oddly amusing" portrait of him.
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#8 Post by mizo »

One of my all-time favorite films. I'll be thrilled to see it get the attention it deserves (or be dismissed as nonsensical by Blu-ray.com and DVDTalk reviewers - either way I'll have a nice new physical copy).
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#9 Post by jojo »

I saw this in an Oshima retrospective about 6 or 7 years ago and the whole theatre was in stitches throughout (which is actually one appropriate response for this film; the other response would be horror). Fantastic black comedy.

I'm still waiting for the handful of Oshimas I haven't seen yet to be released on home format.
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Very excited for this after having thoroughly enjoyed Three Resurrected Drunkards. Not sure whether I should see the short or main feature first. In his review, Svet says:
I think that the best way to experience the film is to avoid reading reviews that discuss in great detail its style and structure.
I suspect more tricks like in Three Resurrected Drunkards (my gut reaction when watching that - was that something went horribly wrong with the disc -or something akin to my experience when seeing the Peter Jackson King Kong in theaters - when reel 3 jumped to reel 9).
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Minkin wrote:In his review, Svet says:
I think that the best way to experience the film is to avoid reading reviews that discuss in great detail its style and structure.
One could just as easily say that about any film with experimental tendencies. If anything, I think this one benefits a great deal from contextualization, it has so much to say about the state of contemporary Japan in political, social, military, religious, and philosophical terms. Of course, at the time, I didn't have much more preparation for it than you, Minkin (I had seen a few more Oshimas, including Violence at Noon, The Ceremony, and The Man Who Left His Will on Film but that alone hardly makes me an expert). It didn't really click with me until the second viewing (only a day or two after the first) but once it did, it quickly became a favorite. I hope you get as much pleasure from it as I do!
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#13 Post by zedz »

The film has lots of structural and narrative surprises that are probably best experienced unforewarned (I assume: I'd read and reread Desser's detailed account in Eros Plus Massacre long before I had the chance to see the actual film.) There's a lot of additional context, particularly about Japanese racism against Koreans and the real-life models of some of the characters, that's extremely useful, but it's a film you'll need - and hopefully want - to watch more than once, so you might as well do that reading after your unspoilt first viewing.

It's probably safe to watch the trailer before the feature, though. It's insane and wonderful, but not particularly spoilerish, as I recall - other than cluing you in to how weird the film is going to be.
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Bit of an Oshima geek here so please bear with me.

This is, outside Gishiki (The Ceremony) Oshima's best film (in my opinion) and was made during what I consider to be his most productive period from 1968-1971. While I wouldn't consider the film a challenge in any respect (Some of Oshima's more experimental works can be frustrating) the film does become a bit clearer if you're familiar with Japanese politics at the time. A short film Oshima made, Diary of Yunbogi is available on the Criterion disc and is an excellent primer for the film and may actually benefit those who watch it before the feature as it provides some much needed context and has no spoilers for the actual film.

In short, if you want some political context into WHY Oshima made the film he did watch Diary of Yunbogi first.
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This is very much a political film in every sense of the word and one that convinced a much younger me that the death penalty was always unethical, in every aspect. Such is the strength of Oshima's case in my opinion.
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#15 Post by domino harvey »

I'm not sure how sincere I take Oshima's death penalty criticisms to be, not that it matters too much to the quality of the film. This was probably the closest I've seen someone not directly adapting Kafka get to Kafka, though the homage is a bit on the nose (the central character is even referred to only by his initial). But after thirty minutes or so, I got the joke fifty times over, yet the film kept on at it before taking that odd turn halfway through and continuing ever forward/in place. Satire like this has to go for broke to even have a chance to work, and Oshima certainly goes all-in, but I just found this whole exercise too blunt and endless, and I don't think the film is nearly as clever as it thinks it is, which makes its slim insights less than revelatory.
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domino harvey wrote:I'm not sure how sincere I take Oshima's death penalty criticisms to be, not that it matters too much to the quality of the film. This was probably the closest I've seen someone not directly adapting Kafka get to Kafka, though the homage is a bit on the nose (the central character is even referred to only by his initial). But after thirty minutes or so, I got the joke fifty times over, yet the film kept on at it before taking that odd turn halfway through and continuing ever forward/in place. Satire like this has to go for broke to even have a chance to work, and Oshima certainly goes all-in, but I just found this whole exercise too blunt and endless, and I don't think the film is nearly as clever as it thinks it is, which makes its slim insights less than revelatory.
You couldn't have posted this before I bought the disc in the flash sale?
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Hey, for what it's worth, this (to me) is the stand-out of Oshima's many great works from the period, and overall one of the best of the Japanese New Wave as a whole. I'm very excited to have this on disc.
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#18 Post by domino harvey »

Oh, I still think it's worth watching and engaging with for the interested. It didn't work for me, but I wouldn't advise against it like I would, say, Sing a Song of Sex
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#19 Post by Ribs »

...another one I would heartily recommend as one of his best, but I acknowledge my opinion on that one is a bit more contrary to most...
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#20 Post by domino harvey »

Well, for anyone who loved the suspect treatment of rape in that film, you'll love this film's endless reenactment "jokes"
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#21 Post by Big Ben »

Oshima entirely intended to make discussions like this occur and I think to make us uncomfortable, sometimes very much so. Even so I wish to clarify that the following is just my personal interpretation of the work.

I believe, personally, that the reenactment jokes were meant to intentionally highlight Japanese stereotypes of Koreans rather than endorse them in any particular manner. The real revealing "joke" for me, personally, is when the official stops the other and says something to the effect of "No say it like a Korean". The joke highlights the stupidity of the Japanese prejudice and is NOT intended to mock those of Korean nationality. The "joke" is the stupidity of the Japanese authorities. The constant barrage is meant to invoke a sense of consciousness among those who may hold them. For those of us who live many thousands of miles away the jokes may appear to be very crude and frankly flat but I seriously doubt it was Oshima's intention to offend us. And lastly to Koreans to this very day they hold a very REAL ( As Tony Rayns points out in the excellent video piece on the disc that some Japanese still hold these beliefs) form of oppression.

"Stupid" officials are also a recurring theme in Oshima's work. They're often portrayed as incompetent, misguided and frankly immoral and for those reasons are infinitely more dangerous. Can you think of anything more dangerous to a minority than an official who has every misguided belief in the world about them?

Now for my own bit of personal criticism:
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I do personally feel that Oshima would have benefited personally from making R innocent rather than guilty than he is in the film. This makes me feel very distant from him personally and I also think it would have made the ending more meaningful. As it stands now I care only that he not be executed which is why I feel the ending speech works better as a comment about the death penalty rather than a criticism of bias towards Koreans.
For said reason I prefer The Ceremony over Death by Hanging as I feel the latter stumbles frequently in places where it needed to soar.
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#22 Post by knives »

Ribs wrote:...another one I would heartily recommend as one of his best, but I acknowledge my opinion on that one is a bit more contrary to most...
It's actually probably my favorite of Oshima's but to be honest I don't entirely get Dom's critique of it even going to his original post way back on it. I do think maybe it would come across less flippant if they had chosen the other title for the film which more successfully suggests the anthropological nature of the movie.
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#23 Post by mizo »

FWIW, domino, I had almost the exact same reaction as yours the first time I saw it. I loved the concept and appreciated a lot of the ideas, but I felt like the novelty and insight was starting to wind down by roughly the 45 minute mark. Then, for whatever reason, I felt compelled to watch it again the very next day, and it completely clicked. I think it's important to the film's power that it should feel sort of like the premise to a (really really weird) lost episode of The Twilight Zone stretched far beyond the point of logical conclusion. Oshima sets up for himself an ingenious scenario with which to allegorically portray the fundamental sort of corruption underlying Japanese society: he gives us one figure to represent each element of that society (from religion, the military, and bureaucracy to the sort of bourgeois perversion of the doctor and the brutish ambition of the one guard who worked his way up the social ladder) and has them oversee an execution that's covertly loaded with issues of race, nationalism, economic inequality, etc. But rather than trying to encompass complete or implied arguments about those issues, Oshima instead draws out all the implications (or allows them to surface on their own) allowing the film and its ideas to become knottier and knottier. It races through concepts with such speed, it's actually forced to become something of a didactic piece (albeit still an extremely complex and thoughtful one, which doesn't always take what it has its mouthpieces say at face value) in the third act, as the dramatic structure and narrative start to slide away due to their inability to contain everything that gets drawn out. Now, I realize this is the kind of hyperbolic statement that could have the unwanted effect of making you resent this film even more, but it's probably the most fiercely politically engaged film I've ever seen (beating out even Godard and Marker). It's an absolutely ferocious statement that gets to me and into my head like no other - fortunately, my disc just came in the mail, so I can experience that ferocity all over again. :D

Shifting gears completely, there is of course also the possibility that the film just isn't for you. If the reenactment jokes (I presume you're referring specifically to the film's making light of R's crimes) did put you off - which is a reaction I completely respect - I wouldn't want to try and force that on you. It does make me wonder how you've managed to appreciate any films of the Japanese New Wave, as the juxtaposition of horrific, deviant, violent sexual action with absurd, sardonic humor is a pretty common trope (although I actually have difficulty with Imamura for apparently the same reason you dislike some of Oshima's films - as a side note, that difficulty I have, while sort of frustrating given the praise I've seen lavished upon Imamura on this board and elsewhere, is also kind of a relief to me, as I've long been somewhat fearful that a longstanding semi-morbid fascination with Tosh.0 has desensitized me from that sort of humor, which I do often find objectionable on a basic level).

And I just saw Big Ben's comment:
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But if R were innocent, the whole film would lose its meaning! Oshima is arguing that the death penalty is never justified. He couldn't have, as his main character, someone upon whom the operations of the justice system are that random and unreasonable. The reason the film is so devastating, for me anyway, is because Oshima presents us with the perpetrator of a truly heinous crime who rejects, on an existential level, his own culpability for that crime. It's not a presentation of the justice system as just faulty or corrupt. We come to see it as a cancer, growing naturally from the basest impulses of society at large, while simultaneously acting as a kind of a barbarous antibody (if I'm using that metaphor properly) destroying an exterior disease before it infects the system. In the end, it's not so much that the film doesn't want to call for an end to the death penalty, it's like it's genuinely impossible, so deeply ingrained is it into the way society works. And if, like R, you reject it in the most basic core of your being, you can't just return to the society that spawned it and live a happy life of ignorance. Becoming yourself a victim of the state - and accepting the guilt that the state places upon you whether you yourself feel it or not - is the only non-hypocritical course of action.
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#24 Post by Big Ben »

As I'm sure some of you are aware Oshima has been called the Godard of the East, a label I've had some issue with. Here is a highlighted section about it noted in the essay included in the pamphlet for Criterion's edition of Death by Hanging:
Oshima has been pigeonholed as the Godard of the Far East, but it would be more accurate to call him the reverse-angle JLG: instead of converting flesh and blood and tragedy into glamorous abstractions, Oshima renders ideology in skeptical, frank, kitchen-sink terms. At his most obscure and groping-for-a-contrarian-meaning, Oshima remains committed to the human condition. Instead of aiming over your head like a highbrow skeet shooter, he’d rather swan dive into the murk of being, in its full kaleidoscopic, unsanitary overabundance.
Oshima's aim, however it was displayed (either through comedy, drama or even both) has always been due to empathy rather than some attempt frank experimentation. He wants you to be engaged regardless of whether or not you're in your comfort zone. This is what makes Oshima so engaging to me personally. Even if I'm uncomfortable for whatever reason, I know it's because the asking to do so comes from the heart rather than some cold abyss where nothing ever returns (I want to make it clear I'm not picking on Godard here). Consider Oshima's empathy driven reasons for making the film ( Diary of Yunbogi is an excellent way to start in my opinion). Death by Hanging is a work that I believe benefits from multiple viewings. I must admit to sharing some frustrations shown in this thread when I first saw the film as well!

Oshima always had more on his mind than what initially appears and this extends even into his final work Gohatto. As such I feel those who feel initially frustrated with some of his works may wish to revisit them to look at them in a different light (This poster has even done so). That being said if it doesn't work for you it doesn't work for you and I understand completely. I just wish to express why I feel Oshima made things the way he did.
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#25 Post by htom »

If the Wikipedia listing is reliable, this also means that Criterion have now released to home video all four Japanese live-action features identified as using Paramount's VistaVision cameras: Death By Hanging, In the Realm of the Senses, Empire of Passion (all by Oshima) and Vengeance is Mine by Imamura.
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