Awards Season 2016

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FrauBlucher · #251 Post by **FrauBlucher** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:18 am

I receive screeners, as well as invites to screenings. I make a few screenings and try to watch as many of the screeners as I can, but am not successful watching all. There is definitely an order in which I watch them, which is based on awards buzz. As far as voting, because the voting deadline is early I may vote to nominate something I haven't seen yet knowing I will like it a lot and like the filmmaker. This doesn't happen often but has. (And it's worked the other way around as well. I've seen something after voting that I liked and would have voted for it.) I am sure many others do the same or just vote for freinds whom are in the running. I think there are far fewer people that watch all the films.

Black Hat wrote:I think a far more interesting question is what on earth would go on before screeners existed?

Back in the day, a long, long time ago, when people used to read actual newspapers, you would be able to find out which theaters allowed guild/union members to attend shows for free by showing your card. At the very bottom of the film ads in the movie section of the paper would say, "Members of DGA, WGA, SAG can attend with a guest with membership ID." This happened only during award season.

movielocke · #252 Post by **movielocke** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:11 pm

Black Hat wrote:I think a far more interesting question is what on earth would go on before screeners existed?

screenings have always been around. On the Lot screenings were and are common, and people would catch their studio's films after work.

Also there's a long history of guild cards or other membership cards (academy etc) getting one into any movie currently at any los angeles theatre for free during awards season, so that was another method.

and VHS screeners were very popular until about 2002 or so, 2003 was the great screener ban year, when none were sent out after the rampant pirating of DVD screeners in the 2002 season.

dda1996a · #253 Post by **dda1996a** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:15 pm

Bringing up VHS and DVDs, are studios also sending blu-ray screeners?

movielocke · #254 Post by **movielocke** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:05 pm

Most studio websites allow you to opt in to bluray if a bluray is made available for screeners.

lacritfan · #255 Post by **lacritfan** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:51 am

National Society of Film Critics
BEST PICTURE - Moonlight
BEST DIRECTOR - Barry Jenkins - Moonlight
BEST ACTOR - Casey Affleck – Manchester by the Sea
BEST ACTRESS - Isabelle Huppert – Elle and Things to Come
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR - Mahershala Ali– Moonlight
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS -Michelle Williams – Manchester by the Sea
BEST SCREENPLAY - Manchester by the Sea – Kenneth Lonergan
BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY - Moonlight – James Laxton
FOREIGN-LANGUAGE FILM - Toni Erdmann
BEST NON-FICTION FILM - O.J.: Made in America
SPECIAL CITATION for a film awaiting American distribution: Sieranevada (Romania) Cristi Puiu
FILM HERITAGE AWARD: Kino Lorber’s 5-disc collection “Pioneers of African-American Cinema”

#256 Post by **mfunk9786** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:45 am

Jeez, I am in essentially total lockstep with the National Society of Film Critics this year. Time to put in some job applications....... and learn to write well.

#257 Post by **domino harvey** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:13 pm

Worth posting the runners up as well

Best Picture: Moonlight (Runner Ups: La La Land and Manchester by the Sea)
Best Director: Barry Jenkins, Moonlight (RU: Damien Chazelle and Kenneth Lonergan)
Best Actress: Isabelle Huppert, Elle and Things to Come (RU: Annette Bening and Sandra Hüller)
Best Actor: Casey Affleck, Manchester by the Sea (RU: Denzel Washington and Adam Driver)
Best Supporting Actress: Michelle Williams, Manchester by the Sea (RU: Lily Gladstone and Naomie Harris)
Best Supporting Actor: Mahershala Ali, Moonlight (RU: Jeff Bridges and Michael Shannon)
Best Screenplay: Kenneth Lonergan, Manchester by the Sea (RU: Moonlight and Hell or High Water)
Best Cinematography: James Laxton, Moonlight (RU: La La Land and Silence)
Best Foreign Language Film: Toni Erdmann (RU: Elle, Things to Come, and The Handmaiden)
Best Nonfiction Film: O.J.: Made in America (RU: I Am Not Your Negro and 13th)

#258 Post by **mfunk9786** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:16 pm

Emma Stone does not seem like the lock she once did (yes I know these are just film critics etc etc)

movielocke · #259 Post by **movielocke** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:12 am

First award of the golden globes looks like a good night for whitechester

#260 Post by **swo17** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:19 am

Please stop doing that.

#261 Post by **domino harvey** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:26 am

Apparently all white people look alike, since the first and only win so far went to Nocturnal Animals, not Manchester

Ribs · #262 Post by **Ribs** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:38 am

I expect movielocke meant it indicates a distaste for Moonlight

#263 Post by **domino harvey** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:46 am

La La Land won all seven of the categories it was nominated in and beat the record of six Globe wins previously held by One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and Midnight Express

#264 Post by **domino harvey** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:53 am

Also movielocke = Brie Larson confirmed

movielocke · #265 Post by **movielocke** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:13 am

domino harvey wrote:Also movielocke = Brie Larson confirmed

ha! For the record I like Manchester, but it's a film that just prompts me to want to make cutting remarks, like the opening monologue crack about it being the only thing in 2016 more depressing than 2016 itself.

Black Hat · #266 Post by **Black Hat** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:30 am

As depressing as it is to watch wholly ordinary films be rewarded by winning a record number of awards I'm thrilled the Globes have shown a willingness in recent years to recognize fresh, sharp and original television like Atlanta.

#267 Post by **mfunk9786** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:52 am

I know Moonlight will lose to La La Land for Best Picture because the Academy is gonna Academy, but I really, really hope I'm wrong. It felt so right to see difficult but rewarding masterpieces like Moonlight and Elle get their due tonight. La La Land is a good film, but it is showbusiness worshipping fluff, and enough of that has walked away with the top prize in the last 5 Oscar ceremonies (3 out of 5 have been films about the magic of movies/moviemaking!) Enough is enough. The entire promise of cinema is expanding our viewpoints so they might reach outside of the confines of the comfortable reality in which cinema is produced.

Black Hat · #268 Post by **Black Hat** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:08 am

I wasn't crazy about Moonlight but I'd jump five feet into the air if this were to happen. Otherwise it looks like Isabelle Huppert & Toni Erdmann are the only hopes for me to not hate myself for yet again wasting four hours of my time watching The Oscars.

Brian C · #269 Post by **Brian C** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:17 am

mfunk9786 wrote:... but it is showbusiness worshipping fluff, and enough of that has walked away with the top prize in the last 5 Oscar ceremonies (3 out of 5 have been films about the magic of movies/moviemaking! Enough is enough. The entire promise of cinema is expanding our viewpoints so they might reach outside of the confines of the comfortable reality in which cinema is produced).

I just don't agree with that characterization. La La Land is about

Spoiler

repeated failures and disappointments before attaining success, which turns out to be very bittersweet because of the sacrifices that needed to be made to get it.

Calling that "fluff" or "comfortable" just seems off the mark to me.

But then I liked La La Land far more than Moonlight, which seemed made to comfort critics.

#270 Post by **mfunk9786** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:24 am

I want to be clear: I have nothing against Los Angeles, the film industry, "Hollywood" - but if you look at the last fifty years of Best Picture winners, only three of them (or four if you count Chicago, though I don't since it's so much more) are about the history or worship of filmmaking or people who make films. And they've all been in the last five years (Birdman, Argo, The Artist). I would love to see more different films, regardless of tone or genre or racial makeup, get back into the mix even if faced with a movie about how wonderful movies are.

La La Land is my......15th?.......favorite film of 2016, and I don't hate it or even dislike it. But it would feel like a very visceral missed opportunity to ignore the other profoundly great work done in 2016 in order to reward it for making Academy voters feel safe and snug... and in some cases, smug.

Black Hat · #271 Post by **Black Hat** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:28 am

Brian C wrote:La La Land is about
Spoiler
repeated failures and disappointments before attaining success, which turns out to be very bittersweet because of the sacrifices that needed to be made to get it.

I think it portends to be about that, but is it really?

Spoiler

I didn't see much struggle, sacrifice and how bittersweet actually was it?

#272 Post by **domino harvey** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:29 am

There's more to La La Land and all the "movie" films you mention than how great movies are. By your logic Trumbo would have swept last year

Black Hat · #273 Post by **Black Hat** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:30 am

mfunk9786 wrote:I want to be clear: I have nothing against Los Angeles, the film industry, "Hollywood" - but if you look at the last fifty years of Best Picture winners, only three of them (or four if you count Chicago, though I don't since it's so much more) are about the history or worship of filmmaking or people who make films. And they've all been in the last five years (Birdman, Argo, The Artist). I would love to see more different films, regardless of tone or genre or racial makeup, get back into the mix even if faced with a movie about how wonderful movies are.

I'm the last person to take up Argo's cause as that movie was entirely shrill, but I don't think it's fair to classify it as a movie about the film industry.

#274 Post by **mfunk9786** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:30 am

domino harvey wrote:There's more to La La Land and all the "movie" films you mention than how great movies are. By your logic Trumbo would have swept last year

Listen, a film has to be remotely tolerable first, I'm not claiming there's no bar that needs to be cleared here. La La Land is a good (even lovable) film, Trumbo cannot make either claim.

Black Hat wrote:
mfunk9786 wrote:I want to be clear: I have nothing against Los Angeles, the film industry, "Hollywood" - but if you look at the last fifty years of Best Picture winners, only three of them (or four if you count Chicago, though I don't since it's so much more) are about the history or worship of filmmaking or people who make films. And they've all been in the last five years (Birdman, Argo, The Artist). I would love to see more different films, regardless of tone or genre or racial makeup, get back into the mix even if faced with a movie about how wonderful movies are.
I'm the last person to take up Argo's cause as that movie was entirely shrill, but I don't think it's fair to classify it as a movie about the film industry.

I feel like I'd be naïve if I ignored its "look at what a massive impact our bubble can have on the rest of the country/world!" appeal to voters.

I say all of this as someone who has loved the Oscars since he was a little boy. That context is important, so I will include it in this post for posterity.

movielocke · #275 Post by **movielocke** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:01 am

mfunk9786 wrote:I want to be clear: I have nothing against Los Angeles, the film industry, "Hollywood" - but if you look at the last fifty years of Best Picture winners, only three of them (or four if you count Chicago, though I don't since it's so much more) are about the history or worship of filmmaking or people who make films. And they've all been in the last five years (Birdman, Argo, The Artist). I would love to see more different films, regardless of tone or genre or racial makeup, get back into the mix even if faced with a movie about how wonderful movies are.

La La Land is my......15th?.......favorite film of 2016, and I don't hate it or even dislike it. But it would feel like a very visceral missed opportunity to ignore the other profoundly great work done in 2016 in order to reward it for making Academy voters feel safe and snug... and in some cases, smug.

i always love well timed stereotypical backlash against success. Haters gone hate hate hate...

(I can't hate myself for quoting Taylor swift or I'd be hypocritical right? Dammit boxed myself in!)

The artist, Argo, and birdman, are all weird, quirky films. The artist is a pastiche of a dead art form, bird man is like a postmodern solipsistic and ironic riff on the forgotten and stuffy film the dresser, and Argo is a heist film. Sure they all have connections to Hollywood built into them, but it's a tenuous connection between the three films at best, they're all quite different, and two of them are weird, quirky and inherently anticommercial.

And if your guiding ethos in creating your film is that your film is inherently anti commercial, then you are effectively anti Hollywood; because nothing is more anathema to Hollywood than being anti commercial.

I want moonlight to win, but La la land is also a great film and a completely acceptable winner as well.

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